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Texpat · 21-01-2008, 10:16 PM

Who will win the Super Bowl?

The New England Patriots are poised to set an new NFL record, if they can complete only the second undefeated season in American professional football history by beating the New York Giants in Super Bowl XLII on Feb. 3 in Arizona.

The Miami Dolphins recorded the only other perfect season 16-0, in 1973. The Patriots are 18-0 and the Giants are 13-6.
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Perfect Patriots, improbable Giants headed to Arizona for Super Bowl

By DENNIS WASZAK Jr., AP Sports Writer
January 21, 2008

The New England Patriots' path to perfection has one last hurdle: a New York team of road warriors hoping for a Giant upset.

"We'll try to elevate our game for one last performance," said Tom Brady, the Patriots' dimple-chinned, record-setting quarterback with the model girlfriend.

Brady and the Patriots (18-0) will try to match the 1972 Miami Dolphins as the only teams to complete an undefeated season when they face Eli Manning and the Giants on Feb. 3 in the Super Bowl at Glendale, Ariz.

"I think you enter the season and you're hoping to put together a bunch of great wins and you realize there's challenges every step of the way," Brady said after beating San Diego 21-12 in the AFC championship game Sunday. "To not have a letdown like most teams have -- we had a few letdowns or times where we didn't play our best, but we overcame them."

Standing in the Patriots' way are the Giants (13-6) and Manning -- Peyton's little brother, whose moxie and leadership abilities no longer can be questioned.

"We haven't been given a shot, but we're here," Manning said of his Giants, who have won 10 straight on the road -- including a 23-20 overtime win at Green Bay in the NFC title game. "I think we're deserving of it."

Las Vegas oddsmakers might think differently. They installed New England as a 13 1/2 -point favorite in the big game, in which New York will get another shot at destroying the Patriots' path to perfection.

New England won 38-35 in its final game of the regular season, rallying from a 12-point second-half deficit against the Giants. The teams also played in the preseason finale, when New England won -- with Brady sitting that one out.

Brady and the Patriots are playing in the Super Bowl for the fourth time in seven years. A win in this one would rank the Patriots as perhaps the greatest champion in NFL history -- Spygate a long-forgotten speedbump.

In that scandal, the Patriots were fined $250,000 and coach Bill Belichick $500,000 for violating league rules by training a sideline camera on New York Jets coaches in their season-opening win. New England was stripped of its first-round draft pick next season, but the team stood by its coach.

And the Patriots never wavered.

"I think there's special guys on this team that have stepped up all year when they needed to," Brady said.

Maybe none more than New England's record-breaking -- and heartbreaking -- quarterback.

Brady started this special season by becoming a father for the first time. Brady's dating former Victoria's Secret model Gisele Bundchen, making them the talk of the town.

When the football-hurling heartthrob got back to business, he became a cover story for other reasons.

Brady threw an NFL-record 50 touchdown passes in the regular season, with 23 of those to Randy Moss, who topped Jerry Rice's record. Brady was also the league's Most Valuable Player in helping New England score an NFL-record 589 points.

"They played great all year," Belichick said. "I'm very lucky to coach this team."

Linebacker Junior Seau quickly returned the compliment: "Bill is definitely the best coach ever."

And the Patriots are on the verge of making NFL history.

"Now we can look ahead," Belichick said.

They sure can. And they'll see a familiar foe in the Giants, whose run through the playoffs into their first Super Bowl since 2001 was jump-started by their valiant effort against the Patriots in the last week of the regular season.

"That got us going, giving us momentum," Manning said.

This is the same New York team that gave up 80 points in its first two games and had fans calling for coach Tom Coughlin to be fired. Those same fans also wondered whether Manning, acquired in a draft-day deal in 2004, would ever become a franchise-type quarterback like his brother.
Little brother is now in the Super Bowl with a chance to bring home a title of his own.

"It's exciting, but it's not about me," Manning said in his typical aw-shucks manner. "It's about this whole team."

Sure, Manning had a big hand in the Giants' success, especially when the games took on greater meaning. He has been flawless in the postseason, completing a number of clutch throws without a turnover.

"It's just a matter of getting hot at the right time," Manning said. "It feels good because this is what you work for."

New York became the first NFC wild-card team to reach the Super Bowl since Dallas in 1975. And the Giants did it the hard way, winning all their road games after dropping their season opener at Dallas.

"We're going on the road again," Coughlin said. "That's good."

New York visited Tampa Bay, Dallas and Green Bay in the playoffs and went home winners. Next up is the biggest game of them all and a chance to make history by ending New England's attempt at football immortality.

"We have a lot of faith and trust in ourselves," Manning said. At least neither team will have to worry about a frigid forecast in Arizona. On Sunday, New England beat San Diego in 23-degree temperatures at Foxborough, Mass., while New York edged Green Bay in subzero conditions at Lambeau Field.

"I'm glad it's warm weather," Brady said, flashing that familiar smile. "Weather won't be a factor. It should be exciting."

chinthee · 22-01-2008, 03:48 AM

I reckon when they win the Superbowl, they will be acknowledged as the greatest team in history.

Hootad Binky · 22-01-2008, 03:52 AM

I missed the Packers/Giants game, f*ck! Heard it was a squeaker.

Wasn't the place-kicker who won it Canadian?

AntRobertson · 22-01-2008, 01:32 PM

I haven't really been following it this year, I'm definately on the Patriots bandwagon though.

But hows about that Manning family eh. Can't be too many others that have had such success much less two siblings both having played in the Super Bowl in the same position.

And what about the dad, he was a QB too I believe?

Texpat · 22-01-2008, 02:10 PM

Yes, Archie Manning played 11 years for the New Orleans Saints and a few bounce-arounds before retiring in '84.

AntRobertson · 22-01-2008, 02:13 PM

He ever play in the Super Bowl?

Funny really innit, very few families produce even one athelete capable of playing professional sport, this family has three. Genetics obviously plays a part but even then it's impressive.

chinthee · 22-01-2008, 02:17 PM

Archie Manning was a very good quarterback. He had to carry the New Orleans Saints on his shoulders for years without a supporting cast. No telling what he would have become with a great surrounding team.

Yes, clearly nature plays a part and also nurture. These families live, eat and breath football.

John Elway's son has started his first year of college this year at Arizona State and we'll all be watching with interest. He had a great High School career as quarterback of one of the top football schools.

AntRobertson · 22-01-2008, 02:22 PM

Hmm, the plot thickens! After a quick Google it transpires that there's a Manning The Elder. Cooper Manning, older brother to Eli and Peyton.

And guess what, yep, outstanding Football talent who was apparently a well regarded wide receiver but his career was cut short by some medical condition of other.

What the fock was Archie Manning doing, out in the yard running drills with these kids in their diapers or something!?!

El Gibbon · 22-01-2008, 03:07 PM

Archie Manning is a football psycho. It has been the only subject of his life since an early age. Its a wonder his "boys" have any life skills at all. But hat's off to them they've done the "Ole Man" proud.

Now its time to see if the Manning Curse is still in effect with BB. After playing the Gints only three weeks ago the film studies will have to be totally re-done.

Best thing that happened to NY was the total emotional and physical sell-out against the Pats in the week 16 loss.

Since then they realized they can play with the best and beat at least two pretty good teams in Tampa Bay, Dallas and Green Bay. No easy road for them.

Should be a helluva a game... 31 - 28 Pats is in my head.

E. G.

CharleyFarley · 23-01-2008, 01:12 PM

Tom Bradys' gal

Boon Mee · 24-01-2008, 04:30 AM

Brady is injured - my money's on N.Y.

Hootad Binky · 24-01-2008, 05:29 AM

Mine too!

Boon Mee · 24-01-2008, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

Mine too!

Wonder if ray is a Patriot (fan)?

KID · 24-01-2008, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

I missed the Packers/Giants game, f*ck! Heard it was a squeaker.

Wasn't the place-kicker who won it Canadian?

TYNES- sucks he missed 2 before he got number 3 right

Eliminator · 24-01-2008, 08:38 AM

gibbon, feck off with your psycho crap, I'm sure if you asked any of his kids, they're very happy with the way their childhood went and are really happy now making the kind of money they do by just playing a game.

El Gibbon · 24-01-2008, 05:40 PM

^ well at least you had the balls to post what you wrote in the RED you gave me.

BTW have you ever read or heard an interview with Archie when he was with N. O. The poor bastard had nothing but spaghetti to work with and tried to make a 5 course meal.

E. G.

BTW that red was the first ever. Congrats!

Eliminator · 25-01-2008, 11:07 AM

It's so sad Archie didn't get away from N.O. earlier, he would have been outstanding with a better team. Sorry for the red but I think it was deserved. 555

Jet Gorgon · 28-01-2008, 03:35 AM

I'm a Patriots fan, but the Giants have some great players, like newbie Smith. Great wide receiver.
I got popcorn, smoked salmon, the reg treats, and maybe I'll do blinis and caviar. The one bennie of living back in "NO" land is being able to watch the game in the afternoon. 5am bloody marys in Thailand were OK, but...

KID · 28-01-2008, 04:32 AM

should have been greenbay and new england !!!

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21-01-2008, 10:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Texpat ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: Yesterday 09:22 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai Posts: 10,221	Super Bowl - Can Patriots finish perfect season? Who will win the Super Bowl? The New England Patriots are poised to set an new NFL record, if they can complete only the second undefeated season in American professional football history by beating the New York Giants in Super Bowl XLII on Feb. 3 in Arizona. The Miami Dolphins recorded the only other perfect season 16-0, in 1973. The Patriots are 18-0 and the Giants are 13-6. * Perfect Patriots, improbable Giants headed to Arizona for Super Bowl** By DENNIS WASZAK Jr., AP Sports Writer January 21, 2008 The New England Patriots' path to perfection has one last hurdle: a New York team of road warriors hoping for a Giant upset. "We'll try to elevate our game for one last performance," said Tom Brady, the Patriots' dimple-chinned, record-setting quarterback with the model girlfriend. Brady and the Patriots (18-0) will try to match the 1972 Miami Dolphins as the only teams to complete an undefeated season when they face Eli Manning and the Giants on Feb. 3 in the Super Bowl at Glendale, Ariz. "I think you enter the season and you're hoping to put together a bunch of great wins and you realize there's challenges every step of the way," Brady said after beating San Diego 21-12 in the AFC championship game Sunday. "To not have a letdown like most teams have -- we had a few letdowns or times where we didn't play our best, but we overcame them." Standing in the Patriots' way are the Giants (13-6) and Manning -- Peyton's little brother, whose moxie and leadership abilities no longer can be questioned. "We haven't been given a shot, but we're here," Manning said of his Giants, who have won 10 straight on the road -- including a 23-20 overtime win at Green Bay in the NFC title game. "I think we're deserving of it." Las Vegas oddsmakers might think differently. They installed New England as a 13 1/2 -point favorite in the big game, in which New York will get another shot at destroying the Patriots' path to perfection. New England won 38-35 in its final game of the regular season, rallying from a 12-point second-half deficit against the Giants. The teams also played in the preseason finale, when New England won -- with Brady sitting that one out. Brady and the Patriots are playing in the Super Bowl for the fourth time in seven years. A win in this one would rank the Patriots as perhaps the greatest champion in NFL history -- Spygate a long-forgotten speedbump. In that scandal, the Patriots were fined $250,000 and coach Bill Belichick $500,000 for violating league rules by training a sideline camera on New York Jets coaches in their season-opening win. New England was stripped of its first-round draft pick next season, but the team stood by its coach. And the Patriots never wavered. "I think there's special guys on this team that have stepped up all year when they needed to," Brady said. Maybe none more than New England's record-breaking -- and heartbreaking -- quarterback. Brady started this special season by becoming a father for the first time. Brady's dating former Victoria's Secret model Gisele Bundchen, making them the talk of the town. When the football-hurling heartthrob got back to business, he became a cover story for other reasons. Brady threw an NFL-record 50 touchdown passes in the regular season, with 23 of those to Randy Moss, who topped Jerry Rice's record. Brady was also the league's Most Valuable Player in helping New England score an NFL-record 589 points. "They played great all year," Belichick said. "I'm very lucky to coach this team." Linebacker Junior Seau quickly returned the compliment: "Bill is definitely the best coach ever." And the Patriots are on the verge of making NFL history. "Now we can look ahead," Belichick said. They sure can. And they'll see a familiar foe in the Giants, whose run through the playoffs into their first Super Bowl since 2001 was jump-started by their valiant effort against the Patriots in the last week of the regular season. "That got us going, giving us momentum," Manning said. This is the same New York team that gave up 80 points in its first two games and had fans calling for coach Tom Coughlin to be fired. Those same fans also wondered whether Manning, acquired in a draft-day deal in 2004, would ever become a franchise-type quarterback like his brother. Little brother is now in the Super Bowl with a chance to bring home a title of his own. "It's exciting, but it's not about me," Manning said in his typical aw-shucks manner. "It's about this whole team." Sure, Manning had a big hand in the Giants' success, especially when the games took on greater meaning. He has been flawless in the postseason, completing a number of clutch throws without a turnover. "It's just a matter of getting hot at the right time," Manning said. "It feels good because this is what you work for." New York became the first NFC wild-card team to reach the Super Bowl since Dallas in 1975. And the Giants did it the hard way, winning all their road games after dropping their season opener at Dallas. "We're going on the road again," Coughlin said. "That's good." New York visited Tampa Bay, Dallas and Green Bay in the playoffs and went home winners. Next up is the biggest game of them all and a chance to make history by ending New England's attempt at football immortality. "We have a lot of faith and trust in ourselves," Manning said. At least neither team will have to worry about a frigid forecast in Arizona. On Sunday, New England beat San Diego in 23-degree temperatures at Foxborough, Mass., while New York edged Green Bay in subzero conditions at Lambeau Field. "I'm glad it's warm weather," Brady said, flashing that familiar smile. "Weather won't be a factor. It should be exciting."

22-01-2008, 01:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
AntRobertson Ich Bin Ein Auslander Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,637	I haven't really been following it this year, I'm definately on the Patriots bandwagon though. But hows about that Manning family eh. Can't be too many others that have had such success much less two siblings both having played in the Super Bowl in the same position. And what about the dad, he was a QB too I believe? __________________ Entire generations were beaten, raped, murdered, forced to live, eat, sleep, drink and exist apart. Denied housing, jobs and even basic freedoms... All because of the color of their skin. And then some red-necked, inbred hillbilly says: 'Chris Rock said "nigga" on TV but I'm not allowed to say "nigger", that's PC! That's racist!'. It's neither, it's just more ignorance.

22-01-2008, 03:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
El Gibbon Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 04:52 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Samut Phrakon Posts: 1,574	Archie Manning is a football psycho. It has been the only subject of his life since an early age. Its a wonder his "boys" have any life skills at all. But hat's off to them they've done the "Ole Man" proud. Now its time to see if the Manning Curse is still in effect with BB. After playing the Gints only three weeks ago the film studies will have to be totally re-done. Best thing that happened to NY was the total emotional and physical sell-out against the Pats in the week 16 loss. Since then they realized they can play with the best and beat at least two pretty good teams in Tampa Bay, Dallas and Green Bay. No easy road for them. Should be a helluva a game... 31 - 28 Pats is in my head. E. G. __________________ "If you can't stand the answer -- Don't ask the question!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

23-01-2008, 01:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
CharleyFarley Tiger Bay Last Online: Today 02:12 AM Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: aberthin Posts: 1,330	Tom Bradys' gal __________________ Pistyll Rhaeadr and Wrexham steeple,Snowdon's mountain without its people,Overton yew trees, St Winefride wells,Llangollen bridge and Gresford bells.

22-01-2008, 03:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
chinthee Sundance is my bff Last Online: 23-09-2008 07:21 AM Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,033	I reckon when they win the Superbowl, they will be acknowledged as the greatest team in history.

22-01-2008, 03:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
Hootad Binky Elite Member Last Online: 23-12-2008 10:39 AM Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Coast Canada Posts: 2,922	I missed the Packers/Giants game, fck!* Heard it was a squeaker. Wasn't the place-kicker who won it Canadian?

22-01-2008, 02:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Texpat ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: Yesterday 09:22 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai Posts: 10,221	Yes, Archie Manning played 11 years for the New Orleans Saints and a few bounce-arounds before retiring in '84.

22-01-2008, 02:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
AntRobertson Ich Bin Ein Auslander Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,637	He ever play in the Super Bowl? Funny really innit, very few families produce even one athelete capable of playing professional sport, this family has three. Genetics obviously plays a part but even then it's impressive.

22-01-2008, 02:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
chinthee Sundance is my bff Last Online: 23-09-2008 07:21 AM Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,033	Archie Manning was a very good quarterback. He had to carry the New Orleans Saints on his shoulders for years without a supporting cast. No telling what he would have become with a great surrounding team. Yes, clearly nature plays a part and also nurture. These families live, eat and breath football. John Elway's son has started his first year of college this year at Arizona State and we'll all be watching with interest. He had a great High School career as quarterback of one of the top football schools.

22-01-2008, 02:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
AntRobertson Ich Bin Ein Auslander Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,637	Hmm, the plot thickens! After a quick Google it transpires that there's a Manning The Elder. Cooper Manning, older brother to Eli and Peyton. And guess what, yep, outstanding Football talent who was apparently a well regarded wide receiver but his career was cut short by some medical condition of other. What the fock was Archie Manning doing, out in the yard running drills with these kids in their diapers or something!?!

24-01-2008, 04:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
Boon Mee Senior Member Last Online: 05-01-2009 05:56 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,108	Brady is injured - my money's on N.Y.

24-01-2008, 05:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
Hootad Binky Elite Member Last Online: 23-12-2008 10:39 AM Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Coast Canada Posts: 2,922	Mine too!

24-01-2008, 08:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
Eliminator Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 09:55 PM Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 1,890	gibbon, feck off with your psycho crap, I'm sure if you asked any of his kids, they're very happy with the way their childhood went and are really happy now making the kind of money they do by just playing a game.

24-01-2008, 05:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
El Gibbon Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 04:52 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Samut Phrakon Posts: 1,574	^ well at least you had the balls to post what you wrote in the RED you gave me. BTW have you ever read or heard an interview with Archie when he was with N. O. The poor bastard had nothing but spaghetti to work with and tried to make a 5 course meal. E. G. BTW that red was the first ever. Congrats!

25-01-2008, 11:07 AM	#17 (permalink)
Eliminator Elite Member Last Online: Yesterday 09:55 PM Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 1,890	It's so sad Archie didn't get away from N.O. earlier, he would have been outstanding with a better team. Sorry for the red but I think it was deserved. 555

28-01-2008, 03:35 AM	#18 (permalink)
Jet Gorgon Merry Christmas! Last Online: Today 04:01 AM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: City Forgotten by Global Warming Posts: 8,079	I'm a Patriots fan, but the Giants have some great players, like newbie Smith. Great wide receiver. I got popcorn, smoked salmon, the reg treats, and maybe I'll do blinis and caviar. The one bennie of living back in "NO" land is being able to watch the game in the afternoon. 5am bloody marys in Thailand were OK, but...

28-01-2008, 04:32 AM	#19 (permalink)
KID Wat Sri Chum Last Online: 08-01-2009 05:49 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 922	should have been greenbay and new england !!!

28-01-2008, 07:08 AM	#20 (permalink)
chinthee Sundance is my bff Last Online: 23-09-2008 07:21 AM Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,033