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Milkman · 31-10-2007, 02:20 PM

I would like to see Torre go to the Dodgers, and Mattingly follow. I've never liked Steinbrenner, and don't like his snotty kids. Hank Steinbrenner seems to be a twat. I don't know how the GM of the Dodgers and payroll work. Maybe they can build a successful team with Torre. I hope the Yankees keep missing the Big Serious.

So, can Torre help the Dodgers become a multi-year contener?

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Dodgers reportedly to hire Torre, Little quits

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Mattingly would join former Yankees skipper in Los Angeles

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Joe Torre turned down an incentive-laden one-year deal from the Yankees.

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Oct 29, 2007

LOS ANGELES - Grady Little is out as manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers, a move that sure seems to pave the way for Joe Torre to take over.
One report said Torre and the Dodgers had already reached a deal that would give the former New York Yankees manager a new job only weeks after he parted ways with the club.

The New York Post reported on its Web site Tuesday night that Torre had agreed in principle to a $14.5 million, three-year contract with the Dodgers, but a baseball official with knowledge of the search said no deal was imminent. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the job was still open.

Link: Dodgers reportedly to hire Torre, Little quits - Baseball - MSNBC.com

chinthee · 31-10-2007, 02:22 PM

Yeah, I think Torre will be good for the Dodgers. I share your views of Steinbrenner. Seinfeld always portrayed him as a loonie tunes.

Texpat · 31-10-2007, 05:59 PM

Isn't Torre a native of NYC?
Not sure how he'll be received in LA. He ain't a pretty boy.

raycarey · 31-10-2007, 07:36 PM

it will be interesting to see if torre can get it done in LA....he failed miserably as manager in the NL before.

and btw, he also didn't do too well with the yankees after he lost zimmer as his bench coach.

Milkman · 31-10-2007, 08:34 PM

TWP: Yes, Torre is a native NYC boy.

Ray: Zimmer is gone but I suppose he's still alive. I think the surrounding coaches add a lot of value to a team if they're good and the chemistry is there.

In LA? Hard to say. The Dodgers have been mediocre for quite a while.

raycarey · 01-11-2007, 02:35 AM

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Ray: Zimmer is gone but I suppose he's still alive. I think the surrounding coaches add a lot of value to a team if they're good and the chemistry is there.

IMO zimmer needed torre to make the right calls during a game. once steinbrenner let him go, torre didn't know what to do.

Milkman · 01-11-2007, 04:30 PM

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Ray: Zimmer is gone but I suppose he's still alive. I think the surrounding coaches add a lot of value to a team if they're good and the chemistry is there.

IMO zimmer needed torre to make the right calls during a game. once steinbrenner let him go, torre didn't know what to do.

You mean Torre needed Zimmer to make the right calls.

Very interesting, Ray.

But what calls specifically? Going to the bullpen? Batting order? Cashman and the Steinbrenner clan made the personnel decisions as GMs.

raycarey · 01-11-2007, 05:17 PM

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You mean Torre needed Zimmer to make the right calls.

sorry, yeah. i posted that pretty late last night after waiting/hoping for ben to not make a move.

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But what calls specifically?

the positioning of fielders depending who's at the plate, noticing if an opposing pitcher isn't keeping runners close to the bag, going for an R or L out of the bullpen, when to go to the bullpen, etc...and it only gets more complex in the national league.

zimmer is the quintessential baseball guy...lives and breathes it...i see torre as more playing the role of daddy figure.

Milkman · 02-11-2007, 01:55 PM

^ Thanks for the details, Ray. It seems you know your stuff.

Waiting for "Ben." Who's Ben?

Anyway, it's official: Torre has been hired. (No link needed, it's all over the news.)

Cheers. The Dodgers may continue their mediocrity for years to come. One play off appearance since winning the World Series in 88.

raycarey · 02-11-2007, 03:03 PM

bernanke...i stayed up to see whether or not there would be a rate cut.

Milkman · 02-11-2007, 08:13 PM

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bernanke...i stayed up to see whether or not there would be a rate cut.

No surprise. It may mean things ain't so rosy domestically. And watch the dollar slowly erode further.

Milkman · 28-09-2008, 05:52 PM

Well, hi-ho. The Dodgers have 99 wins this year, and they're going to the playoffs, and the Yankees are not in the playoffs.

Karma.

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LOS ANGELES -- As the turnstiles turned for the last time 3,000 miles away at Yankee Stadium, ending an 85-year era of unparalleled success, Joe Torre had other things on his mind -- knowing the Yankees didn't have him on their minds.

Sure, he knew Derek Jeter would have him in his thoughts, since they text one another all the time. The same could be said for Jorge Posada, Mariano Rivera and a few others who were basically born New York Yankees, grew up as Yankees, and prospered and won championships as Yankees -- and did all that with Torre.

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In his first season as the Dodgers' manager, Joe Torre has L.A. on the verge of making the playoffs.

But he also knew the organization probably would veer from showing praise or recognition of the man who guided it to the postseason every year from 1996 to 2007, even if the scene was the final game at Yankee Stadium.

"Do I think about the players?" said Torre, the Dodgers' first-year manager, sitting in his office just days ago, palm trees and 90-degree weather waiting outside and a playoff berth on the horizon. "Of course! Some of those guys are like my children to me. But, you know, I've got some things to do. And one of them is enjoying life, which is exactly what I'm doing these days."

That alone gives Torre a leg up on anyone in New York right now.

Attention, folks! Joe Torre is available to be trampled on no longer. He's not to blame if the Yankees can't run, can't pitch or can barely hit.

Twelve years … 12 playoff appearances.

Ten American League East division crowns … two wild-card appearances.

Six trips to the World Series … four world championships.

"Then a contract offer that basically implied I needed motivation to win," Torre said, shaking his head at the Yankees' one-year offer. "I was really put off by that. Maybe I always will be."

link: ESPN - Torre moves beyond Yankees, back into postseason - MLB

raycarey · 28-09-2008, 06:13 PM

good for him.

flash · 28-09-2008, 06:23 PM

So a new era for the Yankees?, Torre gone and Yankee Stadium gone

raycarey · 28-09-2008, 06:25 PM

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So a new era for the Yankees

the era of hank.

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raycarey Incoming! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: deleting posts in issues Posts: 5,579	it will be interesting to see if torre can get it done in LA....he failed miserably as manager in the NL before. and btw, he also didn't do too well with the yankees after he lost zimmer as his bench coach.

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Milkman Gone Off Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: shelf Posts: 10,400	TWP: Yes, Torre is a native NYC boy. Ray: Zimmer is gone but I suppose he's still alive. I think the surrounding coaches add a lot of value to a team if they're good and the chemistry is there. In LA? Hard to say. The Dodgers have been mediocre for quite a while.

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Milkman Gone Off Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: shelf Posts: 10,400	^ Thanks for the details, Ray. It seems you know your stuff. Waiting for "Ben." Who's Ben? Anyway, it's official: Torre has been hired. (No link needed, it's all over the news.) Cheers. The Dodgers may continue their mediocrity for years to come. One play off appearance since winning the World Series in 88.

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