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    I see Moaninho has been bleating to the press that he asked for five players and he's only got one.

    P45 bomber circling?

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    ^ Lost last night without a shot on target.


    Some poor koont backroom member is gonna get it hard in the coming months.

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    Chelski have bought Bilbao's keeper.

    Apparently Bashar Assad is joining Real Madrid.

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    Tottenham have failed to sign any new players this summer… making them the first Premier League club to add no new faces since the transfer window was first introduced
    Chortle.

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    Sounds like they've had a better summer than United.

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    Well being parsimonious after spunking so much on that stadium is understandable, I guess.

    United are in a far less enviable position: they have one of the highest paid managers in the game, and they clearly don't trust his judgement or his ability to integrate players. And with good reason!

    Oh, interesting details about the deal the 'new cantona' is on too.


    Manchester United veto José Mourinho’s transfer wishlist
    Manager’s short-term fixes rejected by Ed Woodward
    Some targets viewed as no better than those already at club

    Manchester United did not follow through with some of José Mourinho’s transfer targets because of misgivings about the players he had identified and a decision, from the top of the club, that he should not be allowed to get his way if it meant potentially wasting tens of millions of pounds on a short-term fix.

    As the transfer window closed on Thursday with no more arrivals at Old Trafford, new details have emerged that highlight the differences between an increasingly disaffected manager and the people above him, primarily the executive vice-chairman, Ed Woodward, in terms of the players on Mourinho’s wishlist and whether they would have been worth the money.

    To Mourinho’s intense irritation, United’s conclusion was that in most cases he had targeted defenders who were no better than those they already had and who, in today’s inflated market, could conceivably have cost upwards of £70m without vastly improving the team.

    Mourinho’s enthusiasm for Harry Maguire was not shared by the Old Trafford decision-makers and when the club approached Leicester they were put off by the kind of fee that would have been necessary to sign the England international in the wake of Virgil van Dijk’s £75m transfer from Southampton to Liverpool last season.

    The interest in Maguire was abandoned and, for all the speculation linking Toby Alderweireld with Old Trafford, the truth is there has been only one conversation between Woodward and the Tottenham Hotspur chairman, Daniel Levy, throughout the summer. That was Levy calling Woodward to ask about two of United’s players, one being Anthony Martial. Woodward wants to keep Martial and that, again, is a serious issue between club and manager.

    Mourinho was willing to cut Martial free and, behind the scenes, he has been withering in his assessment of the player.

    he suspicion of United’s hierarchy is the manager is taking a short‑term view rather than thinking more strategically about what would be better for the club in the coming years. Alderweireld will turn 30 in March and, as well as a fee reputed to be more than £50m, would have warranted a salary in the region of £25m over the next four years. United decided the player was not worth such a huge outlay, particularly given his age.

    Mourinho sees things differently and can argue that, without new signings, it is unrealistic to expect his team to overhaul Manchester City. He made that point in a press conference on Thursday by stating United’s second-placed finish last season, 19 points behind City, was “one of my biggest achievements in the game”.

    Yet the club have had to balance the manager’s wishes, and the permanent battle to keep him happy, by taking into account Mourinho is notorious for wanting short-term measures, rarely stays too long at any club and does not tend to worry about what happens when he leaves. Their own vision of team-building is considerably different and that is why Woodward is against selling players such as Martial, Paul Pogba and Luke Shaw when they could conceivably be an asset to the club for many years.

    United did have significant money available for summer signings and would have paid in excess of £100m for Raphaël Varane if the French World Cup winner had been available from Real Madrid. Woodward had breakfast with Real’s president, Florentino Pérez, over the summer but nothing came of it.

    Woodward was also willing to make an exception for Diego Godín of Atlético Madrid and inquired about the Uruguayan’s £18m release clause this week. The money was considered reasonable for a player of Godín’s ability but the 32-year-old was reluctant to leave Spain and another deal was scratched off the list.

    Otherwise, United were reluctant to spend vast amounts of money on players they did not consider to be elite performers. Jérôme Boateng of Bayern Munich would once have appealed and Mourinho was keen on the Germany international. However, Boateng’s injury record counted against him, especially as United were mindful they had already bought two players from Bayern, Owen Hargreaves and Bastian Schweinsteiger, whose time at Old Trafford was notable for how many games they missed.

    Mourinho’s desire to bring in another centre-half indicates he has misgivings about Chris Smalling, Phil Jones, Victor Lindelöf and Eric Bailly, despite the latter two being his own signings.

    Yerry Mina was another possibility but United were put off by what they considered to be excessive agent fees. The sum in question is not clear but must be significant: United will say in private they hope Everton, who have signed the player from Barcelona, have not paid the same, on the basis it could seriously distort the fees demanded by agents in future.

    The irony is that United helped to create that market by routinely flexing their financial muscle and, in the case of Pogba’s £93m transfer from Juventus, the mind-boggling sums that went to the player’s adviser, Mino Raiola. Alexis Sánchez’s contract – £391,000 a week with an extra £75,000 for every game he plays and an annual £1.1m signing-on fee – is another indication of how far the club are willing to go when a category-A player is available.

    Yet United blame other clubs for the transfer market spiralling (
    ) and trace it back to Kyle Walker’s £53m move from Spurs to Manchester City last summer. Neymar’s £200m switch to Paris Saint-Germain took the market to another level entirely, but the view at Old Trafford is that the most outlandish deal was Barcelona signing Ousmane Dembélé from Borussia Dortmund for a fee that could rise to over £135m. United believe Van Dijk’s fee will not seem disproportionate within a year but, with the prices currently so inflated, the club do not want to pay similar amounts unless their targets are at a certain level – higher, plainly, than Maguire or Alderweireld.

    Perhaps surprisingly, United are not among the clubs – Spurs being one – who are regretting the early closure of the transfer window and the feeling at Old Trafford is that the rest of Europe will eventually fall in line.

    The bigger problem for United is how the summer’s transfer business affects the club’s relationship with Mourinho when the only signings are Fred from Shakhtar Donetsk, the injured Diogo Dalot from Porto and Lee Grant, as a third-choice goalkeeper from Stoke.

    Mourinho has so many players ruled out of the game against Leicester on Friday, or not deemed fully fit after their post-World Cup breaks, he floated the idea the substitutes may include “16-year-old boys without experience”. On this occasion, however, he chose not to question the club’s transfer activity. It was time, he said, to “stop thinking about the market”, insisting he was going to enjoy the season and it was “a lie” to say he did not get on with his players.


    https://www.theguardian.com/football...ist-cash-fears

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    So it appears at least one Manchester club has realised that the flat track ponies that are Guardiola and Moaninho rely heavily on spending a fucking fortune to achieve success (with the notable exception of Moaninho's lucky cup run with Porto).

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    Oo ah Sanchez
    Oo ah Sanchez

    Doesn't quite have the same presence as Cantona.

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    To go down the pub, watch shit football and get pissed,
    or Not to go down the pub, watch shit football and get pissed.

    That is the question.

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    Man U looking very uninspiring.. lucky to get a penalty, can't see how they would manage a win otherwise.
    Leicester playing well. Can't be arsed to watch the second half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Man U looking very uninspiring.. lucky to get a penalty, can't see how they would manage a win otherwise.
    Leicester playing well. Can't be arsed to watch the second half.
    I didn't go in the end.

    Leicester denied a penalty by shit refereeing (again).

    Same old.

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    Suck it up Gooner.

    WE ARE TOP O THE LEAGUE , SAY WE ARE TOP O THE LEAGUE

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    The halcyon days are back

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    4 posters on this page who pay more attention to Man U's results than their own teams.

    Who the fuck are Man United?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    4 posters on this page who pay more attention to Man U's results than their own teams.
    Considering the teams that have played so far that statement is almost 'chittyesque'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    4 posters on this page who pay more attention to Man U's results than their own teams.
    We don't get beat til Sunday

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Considering the teams that have played so far that statement is almost 'chittyesque
    You'll still be hurting and scouring press reports come Monday

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    Cartoon on Mourinho channeling Harry Enfield's 'Kevin'



    https://www.theguardian.com/football...018-19-preview

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Suck it up Gooner.

    WE ARE TOP O THE LEAGUE , SAY WE ARE TOP O THE LEAGUE
    Yeah but until yesterday it was Bournemouth.


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    Nice first touch tap in by Sturridge, super sub!!
    Scouse bastards 4 West Ham 0


    A proper first game coming up now, I reckon City will put 5 past the Gunners


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    0-0 what a result.! c'mon Saints

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    Come on youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu gunners!


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    Fvck off uùuuuuuuuiuuuuuuuuuuu wanker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    Fvck off uùuuuuuuuiuuuuuuuuuuu wanker


    Why couldn't Sterling do that during the World Cup? We'd be world champions now.


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