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    I think the Vegas brand on an NFL team is a great combination.

    You are seriously comparing Disneyland with Vegas?

    I don't think so somehow.


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    I would go to a football game in Vegas

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze View Post
    I would go to a football game in Vegas
    Especially if it's next to McCarran, which is easy to get to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze
    I would go to a football game in Vegas
    I think it is going to be a flop. I think it is a really stupid idea the Raiders have some of the most loyal fans in the NFL. A sad day for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze
    I would go to a football game in Vegas
    I think it is going to be a flop. I think it is a really stupid idea the Raiders have some of the most loyal fans in the NFL. A sad day for them.
    Sad?

    "Honey, I'm just off with the boys to watch the game...."

    It's an easy run to Vegas on the 15.



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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Sad?

    "Honey, I'm just off with the boys to watch the game...."

    It's an easy run to Vegas on the 15.
    You must be wearing google out Harry. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Sad?

    "Honey, I'm just off with the boys to watch the game...."

    It's an easy run to Vegas on the 15.
    You must be wearing google out Harry. lol
    I did it in July you dick.

    Sheesh what is it with you know alls?

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    The soon-to-be Las Vegas Raiders might not be stuck in two or three years of Oakland purgatory after all.

    "Vincent Bonsignore‏ of the Los Angeles Daily News reported Wednesday the Raiders could move to San Antonio if the situation in Oakland proves ugly in 2017. Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reported the team could share Levi's Stadium with the San Francisco 49ers (h/t John Breech of CBSSports.com).

    According to Brent Schrotenboer of USA Today, Sam Boyd Stadium, UNLV's football field, could also be an option."

    Raiders Reportedly May Play in San Antonio or in 49ers' Stadium Before Las Vegas | Bleacher Report

    "If the situation in Oakland proves ugly in 2017"
    Guaranteed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanMan View Post
    There are very few NFL fans. There are a huge number of people who are fans of a specific NFL team. Big difference.
    And the vast majority of these fans of specific NFL teams watch the games on TV (like me).

    I grew up going to all of the UW husky home games and about 2 Seahawk games per year.

    For about the last 20-24 years, I've had no desire to make the hour trip each way, park, have a couple beers and a dog, go to the games and reverse back.

    Good for TV ad revenue of course.

    I've forgotten the exact line items of revenue NFL teams get:

    TV ads
    Jersey / merchandise sales

    other

    What percentage is based on ticket sales?

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    According to an HBS case study from 2009, the NFL as a whole made $8B in annual revenue. $2B from local ticket sales (sold by each team), $4B from media licensing (sold nationally by the NFL = sponsorships, events like the Superbowl, TV rights), and $2B from ''other". I'm sure it's more now!

    https://www.quora.com/How-much-money...evenue-streams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    According to an HBS case study from 2009, the NFL as a whole made $8B in annual revenue. $2B from local ticket sales (sold by each team), $4B from media licensing (sold nationally by the NFL = sponsorships, events like the Superbowl, TV rights), and $2B from ''other". I'm sure it's more now!

    https://www.quora.com/How-much-money...evenue-streams
    Norton, thanks.

    And we should be reminded also that....the NFL was a non-profit entity and tax-exempt until last year.

    And now with the new classification....they can be more secretive!

    Business
    The NFL is dropping its tax-exempt status. Why that ends up helping them out.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.26fde4a1aae9

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    It's an easy run to Vegas on the 15.
    From Los Angeles, which now has two of its own teams. And 4 hours each way? Not tiny. Roughly the same distance from Phoenix, but also a city that already has a team.

    On a related note, the former San Diego team is gonna play games in 30000 seat soccer stadium for two seasons? Weird.

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    I was a hard core Raider fan. Many a Sunday drive from 60mi north to Alemeda County Stadium. Had a good rival in the 49ers across the bay but no real hatred. Hatred was reserved for the Steelers. Immaculate Reception. WTF just happened!

    Got fed up when Al Davis flounced off to LA cuz he couldn't get his precious luxury boxes. Now I really feel good when they lose. Hope the move to Vegas is a total flop. A shiny new stadium in the middle of a desert will not draw the Raider faithful. Screw the greedy bastards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanMan View Post
    On a related note, the former San Diego team is gonna play games in 30000 seat soccer stadium for two seasons? Weird.
    Admitting my lack of knowledge, I just don't see a lot of serious followers of the Chargers in LA.

    But, I assume the team with make a profit, so that's all IMO, that matters.

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    ^ LA is going from no NFL teams, to two teams, in a very short time span. Interesting experiment it is. Thinking (I guess) is 18 million people, you'll find buyers for the seats.

    I don't feel too sorry for the city of San Diego I must say. That stadium opened in the 1960s. Not realistic that the team can wait forever for a proper modern home.

    St Louis on the other hand, their stadium was built in the 90s, it was not that old.

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    In some related NFL news Aaron Hernandez got off on the double murder charge and some other charges. Found guilty of posessing a firearm illegally, tacking on 4-5 years to his life sentence.

    Video and article at link:


    Jury acquits Aaron Hernandez of murder charges
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...wtL/story.html

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    Considering he's already serving life for an unrelated murder, its likely this was more of a "can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt" rather than a clear "he didn't do it."

    Sounds like it just became a "he said, she said" type of deal between himself and one of his scumbag associates.

    Feel bad for the families of these two guys, who basically just wound up running into the wrong people on the wrong night.

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    ^ Sad thing also is it pretty much ruined his (Hernandez) brother's coaching career. Finally given a shot at the HS level a couple months ago.

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    A high speed rail link between Vegas and Southern California? Sounds like an excellent idea.

    It’s starting to sink in to state, county and city leaders that winning an NFL franchise represents an unprecedented challenge for Southern Nevada.
    The celebratory hangover has started to wear off; it’s time to get to work and tackle the issues. It’s also time to look at opportunities that could make this the best thing to happen to the city since air conditioning.
    Clark County Commissioner Larry Brown first noted that it would be important for decision-makers to conduct public forums to coordinate infrastructure for a 65,000-seat stadium near one of the nation’s busiest tourism corridors.

    Who should be a part of that? Obviously, Clark County. Brown not only serves on the commission but also chairs the Regional Transportation Commission of Southern Nevada, which works with mass transit and the Nevada Department of Transportation.
    He’s also on the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority board of directors, which has a vested interest in the stadium as a site for special events.
    County Commission Chairman Steve Sisolak has been a supporter of the Raiders’ move to Las Vegas and served on the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee that delivered the stadium financing proposal. Sisolak is well-connected with Raiders leadership as well as Infrastructure Committee Chairman Steve Hill, who chairs the Las Vegas Stadium Authority.
    As the state’s director of economic development, Hill has a pipeline to Nevada Department of Transportation Director Rudy Malfabon, who has said transportation leaders would look at changing the scheduling of Interstate 15 projects that could affect stadium access. A redesign of the Tropicana Avenue interchange at I-15, north of the likely stadium site, is such a project.
    Brown and Malfabon work directly with the Regional Transportation Commission, led by general manager Tina Quigley, who also serves on the state’s High Speed Rail Authority. That authority has a franchise with XpressWest, which for years has studied building rail connecting Las Vegas with Southern California, a key Raiders market.
    Isn’t now the right time to get XpressWest on track? The company recently released a favorable ridership study, and Forbes reported that Treasure Island owner Phil Ruffin recently met with President Donald Trump to press moving ahead on public-private partnerships to fund infrastructure projects, including high-speed rail.
    Clark County has a franchise with the Las Vegas Monorail Co., which is looking to extend its line south to the Mandalay Bay Convention Center right across I-15 from the presumed stadium site. Could the line be extended another 1,000 feet to the stadium?
    Brown’s idea about airing transportation and stadium issues in public forums is good, but more coordination is needed.
    It makes sense for all shareholders — the county, the RTC, the Stadium Authority, the LVCVA, NDOT, the Las Vegas Monorail, XpressWest and the Raiders — to meet publicly and work out details. It might take Gov. Brian Sandoval signing an order to merge those entities, the way the Infrastructure Committee was formed.
    Check your egos and interests at the door. Roll up your sleeves. Discuss, compromise and deliver.
    The stadium is one of the most important tourism-centered projects ever undertaken in Southern Nevada.
    We need to get it right. And we need to get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    ^ Sad thing also is it pretty much ruined his (Hernandez) brother's coaching career. Finally given a shot at the HS level a couple months ago.
    Cheers, SK. I never knew.

    Well, Aaron Hernandez hung himself in his cell today.

    27, looking at life without parole, blowing a 40 million dollar contract.



    Karma.

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    Hard to feel bad about it, isn't it?

    Only sad in like a universal or broad sense: Things like, "he had a kid and a fiancee", "how horrible for his mom and family", " all life has value" or perhaps even the more spirtual "everyone has the potential for redemption".

    All that said, fuck Aaron Hernandez and good riddance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze
    Hard to feel bad about it, isn't it?
    Fuck that guy he was a shitty human and an epic douche.

    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze
    All that said, fuck Aaron Hernandez and good riddance.
    Yep and greened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    Well, Aaron Hernandez hung himself in his cell today.
    Yeah, WTF ... I don't get it. What changed in the last 3-4 days? He could have pulled the plug any time in the last couple of years. Why now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redhaze View Post
    Hard to feel bad about it, isn't it?

    Only sad in like a universal or broad sense: Things like, "he had a kid and a fiancee", "how horrible for his mom and family", " all life has value" or perhaps even the more spirtual "everyone has the potential for redemption".

    All that said, fuck Aaron Hernandez and good riddance.
    He got what he deserved.

    He lost hope (I assume) and doing life at 27 and knowing what you've chosen to lose can definitely bring thoughts of checking out, me thinks.

    Good riddance.

    And, his lawyers are skeptical and want an investigation and don't think he topped himself.

    From inside of the cell objects were set up to block the cell door from opening.

    He did not have a cellmate.

    Again, good riddance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    Well, Aaron Hernandez hung himself in his cell today.
    Yeah, WTF ... I don't get it. What changed in the last 3-4 days? He could have pulled the plug any time in the last couple of years. Why now?
    Dunno.

    Dead men tell no tales and he didn't leave a note.

    He was appealing his conviction with a very successful lawyer, Baez.


    Hard to say.

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