Thread: NFL 2017: draft, deals, and season

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

Originally Posted by redhaze

Palmer will be fine. We're gonna kill it this year.

My prediction ... Seahawks and Cardinals both finish 10-6.

Seahawks win the division based on head to head.

Redhaze comments are wise also but I cannot double quote.

So, cheers, to you also Redhaze.

Imo, I agree with you two:

I see Seattle wine 10....perhaps 11 as their schedule is.

As we know, injuries will play a part for some teams.

The Seattle O-line is the big question and Fant is competing for the LT position.

If you look at the whole O-line, you only see a solid Center in Justin Britt.

We'll have to wait and see.

If the O-line is mediocre (which I expect it to be) the entire season in Wins and Losses will be mediocre.

Again.....too early to tell....but......

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Kaep is openly pro Castro and the Cuban community is vehementky anti-Castro in Miami and Florida.

so you agree with samsara...

Originally Posted by samsara

the nfl is about MONEY, not winning. winning is a nice secondary bonus if/when it happens.

kaepernick is undeniably a better QB 1 than a handful of starters in the NFL. and i suppose it could be argued that there are a handful of QB 2s that are better than kaepernick (but it would be a weak ass argument).

it's ridiculous that kaepernick isn't under contract...and for anyone to take the position that it's due to his skill level...well, i think it's pretty obvious that these people have some other issues with the man that they are afraid to state publicly.

Kaep took his agenda to the NFL, and the average working stiff.

Fair enough.

Let him deal with it.

Like I said, a couple / few weeks ago Kaep made a video saying "I do not want to be a part of the NFL and what it stands for."

Let him go to Cuba and ask Raul to let him play.

so you're agreeing his lack of a contract is not due to his skill level.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

a couple / few weeks ago Kaep made a video saying "I do not want to be a part of the NFL and what it stands for."

link?

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Kaep is openly pro Castro and the Cuban community is vehementky anti-Castro in Miami and Florida.

so you agree with samsara...

Originally Posted by samsara

the nfl is about MONEY, not winning. winning is a nice secondary bonus if/when it happens.

kaepernick is undeniably a better QB 1 than a handful of starters in the NFL. and i suppose it could be argued that there are a handful of QB 2s that are better than kaepernick (but it would be a weak ass argument).

it's ridiculous that kaepernick isn't under contract...and for anyone to take the position that it's due to his skill level...well, i think it's pretty obvious that these people have some other issues with the man that they are afraid to state publicly.

Kaep took his agenda to the NFL, and the average working stiff.

Fair enough.

Let him deal with it.

Like I said, a couple / few weeks ago Kaep made a video saying "I do not want to be a part of the NFL and what it stands for."

Let him go to Cuba and ask Raul to let him play.

so you're agreeing his lack of a contract is not due to his skill level.

Re-read my posts.

I've stated that before on the fucking thread.

And, do I give a sh*t?

No.


Ray: who cares.

This is a huge league with many mouths to feed and many teams, coaches, pundits and fans.

Aaron Donald holding out is much more of an issue, IMO.....

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

a couple / few weeks ago Kaep made a video saying "I do not want to be a part of the NFL and what it stands for."

link?

He has definitely taken it down.

I tried to find it again a couple of days ago an it's gone.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

a couple / few weeks ago Kaep made a video saying "I do not want to be a part of the NFL and what it stands for."

link?

He has definitely taken it down.

I tried to find it again a couple of days ago an it's gone.

ok... then how about a link to a reputable source that can verify that this video existed at some point.

espn for example.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Aaron Donald holding out

why shouldn't he be holding out....he's only going to be risking injury in training camp when everyone knows he should be getting paid so much more than he is.

his contract ends in 2 years and he's better than practically everyone else at his position....why would he risk a massive pay day playing in preseason games that don't matter? FFS, the rams regular season games don't really matter.

the rams need to pay this man what he's worth.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

a couple / few weeks ago Kaep made a video saying "I do not want to be a part of the NFL and what it stands for."

link?

He has definitely taken it down.

I tried to find it again a couple of days ago an it's gone.

ok... then how about a link to a reputable source that can verify that this video existed at some point.

espn for example.

Ray,

I know it's up to me to prove it and find that link and vid.

I saw it - I swear.

I will find it.

obviously it doesn't have to be the video if it's been taken down...but if it ever existed, then espn, sbnation, deadspin and others would have talked/written about it.

your post is the first i've ever heard of this alleged video.

it's looking like tannehill is done for at least 6-8 weeks...and maybe the season.

The million dollar question for every team that has needed a quarterback this offseason has been whether the owner would sign off on the acquisition of Kaepernick. Just a few days ago, the Baltimore Ravens considered signing the former 49ers quarterback, but owner Steve Bisciotti reportedly pushed back against the idea.

It was a bumbling and clumsy mishandling of the situation, and the Dolphins would be wise to have a more coherent idea of what they’ll do.

Kaepernick is the best quarterback on the market, and there’s really no close second. With a worse cast in San Francisco than he’d have in Miami, Kaepernick threw 16 touchdowns with only four interceptions.

Adam Gase has already created a game plan with Kaepernick at quarterback when he interviewed for the 49ers job in 2015.

Winning over Stephen Ross is realistic too, considering the Dolphins owner’s comments of support for protesting players during the 2016 season.

But Miami may be a tough fan base to sell on Kaepernick after he was confronted in November by a Miami Herald reporter for wearing a Fidel Castro shirt.

Either way, signing Kaepernick is the best possible solution for the Dolphins on the field.

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/8/3/16...ck-quarterback

miami might be where he lands....but they've got a brutal schedule.

In other news, one of the all time greats and my personal favorite player Kurt Warner was just inducted to the hall of fame. Nobody lifted teams up and carried them on their backs the way this guy did. Great story and well earned.

The entirety of Warner's career was special. That's why he's being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame Saturday night, within a class that includes running back LaDainian Tomlinson, running back Terrell Davis, kicker Morten Andersen, defensive end Jason Taylor, owner Jerry Jones and safety Kenny Easley.

Warner's story is well known, struggling to get a foothold in the NFL after successful stints in the Arena Football League and NFL Europe and eventually going from the grocery bagger to leading the Rams to two Super Bowls and a championship with the "Greatest Show on Turf."

As great as his first three seasons were with the Rams, however, the Hall of Fame wasn't realistic. Not after injuries drove Warner to the bench and he spent half a season as a placeholder for Giants rookie Eli Manning.


The Cardinals were the one team willing to give Warner a chance to compete for a starting role. Besides, "I just kind of felt it was a match made in heaven," he said. Warner saw that many believed his career was essentially over and would have no more success, just like many didn't believe the Cardinals could be successful.

"I just thought, 'What a perfect fit at this point in my career,'" Warner said.

The quarterback who showed up to Fleming's that March evening and met Fitzgerald was a guy who still believed in himself. He had done amazing things with the Rams. But he needed the Cardinals and his five seasons in the desert. Without them, Warner wouldn't be getting a bust in Canton.

http://www.azcardinals.com/history/w...nton-cred.html

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

My prediction ... Seahawks and Cardinals both finish 10-6.

I see it more like 12-4.

Cards probably will win 12 that's true

Originally Posted by redhaze

Cards probably will win 12 that's true

They won 13 and took the division with basically the same cast of characters two seasons ago.

Originally Posted by raycarey

it's looking like tannehill is done for at least 6-8 weeks...and maybe the season.

The million dollar question for every team that has needed a quarterback this offseason has been whether the owner would sign off on the acquisition of Kaepernick. Just a few days ago, the Baltimore Ravens considered signing the former 49ers quarterback, but owner Steve Bisciotti reportedly pushed back against the idea.

It was a bumbling and clumsy mishandling of the situation, and the Dolphins would be wise to have a more coherent idea of what they’ll do.

Kaepernick is the best quarterback on the market, and there’s really no close second. With a worse cast in San Francisco than he’d have in Miami, Kaepernick threw 16 touchdowns with only four interceptions.

Adam Gase has already created a game plan with Kaepernick at quarterback when he interviewed for the 49ers job in 2015.

Winning over Stephen Ross is realistic too, considering the Dolphins owner’s comments of support for protesting players during the 2016 season.

But Miami may be a tough fan base to sell on Kaepernick after he was confronted in November by a Miami Herald reporter for wearing a Fidel Castro shirt.

Either way, signing Kaepernick is the best possible solution for the Dolphins on the field.

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/8/3/16...ck-quarterback

miami might be where he lands....but they've got a brutal schedule.

Yes, Tannehill now looks like he's be out for a while.

And again, Ray, Kaep will NOT be in Miami b/c of the high anti-Castro Cuban population there. Remember this, below.

By MIAMI HERALD |
November 26, 2016

MIAMI — Colin Kaepernick picked the wrong week — and worst place — to defend Fidel Castro.

Kaepernick, the 49ers’ activist quarterback, can expect a hellacious chorus of boos when he takes the field at Hard Rock Stadium in South Florida on Sunday.

That was probably a given anyway, after Kaepernick wore a Fidel Castro shirt in a post-game news conference a few months back and then praised Cuba’s literacy rate under Castro during a conference call with Miami reporters on Wednesday.

Colin Kaepernick will pay for Castro comments in Miami

Originally Posted by redhaze

They won 13 and took the division with basically the same cast of characters two seasons ago.

ESPN has no love for the Cards...



I predict the Card goes 9-7.

Thanks for getting us back on track Snubs.

As for Seattle, I'll be watching Fant, especially if he wins the spot at Left Tackle.

Hopefully, Joekel will help.

^The O line will still suck it will just suck less. But Russell Wilson is in the best shape of his career and that is going to make all the difference in the world. Defense is stronger than ever and Earl Thomas is on schedule.

Let's just hope they can stay healthy this year. If they do the will be making a Superbowl run.

The Niners are going to be better this year. All new coaching scheme, and lots of vets already gone... Just hoping for the best. Defense will show the first improvement....

They are getting there but are still in rebuild mode. Its hard to win without a QB. Rams will be a nonfactor as usual.

Cards and Seahawks will be a battle. ESPN and national media never gives Cards any love. They have won 10 or more games every year with Palmer except last year. They'll be back this year after a super fluky 2016

Originally Posted by redhaze

This is a thread about football, something you clearly have no interest in.

Wonder how many people will participate in Cold Pizza's annual "Weekly Pick'em" thread this year?

Originally Posted by bsnub

I see it more like 12-4.

TBH I fudged my opinion by one game on the Cards ... they could easily go 11-5. The Seahawk schedule looks a bit tougher to me.

Originally Posted by redhaze

Its hard to win without a QB.

I still think Kaeperdick should have let the 49ers cut him rather than opt out.

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

The Seahawk schedule looks a bit tougher to me.

They are tied 25th in strength of schedule according to ESPN.

2017 NFL strength of schedule - NFL Nation- ESPN

Originally Posted by bsnub

^The O line will still suck it will just suck less.

Agreed.

But Russell Wilson is in the best shape of his career and that is going to make all the difference in the world.

Yes, he really got healthy and trained in the off-season.

Hopefully the O-line will keep him from running around in search of an open receiver.

If the O-line does indeed suck as bad as last year It'll be Russell pulling rabbits out of hats and that only goes so far.

And if the O-line sucks like last year I don't see Lacey (nor the other RBs) with a formidable run-game.

Of course, we'll hope for the best and wait and see.

Defense is stronger than ever and Earl Thomas is on schedule.

That's the good news.

Let's just hope they can stay healthy this year. If they do the will be making a Superbowl run.

The injury gods strike with brutality. *fingers crossed*


Looks like Malik McDowell may not get a chance to play for a while.