Thread: The Rugby Championship 2016...

^Pretty hard not to retaliate to that.I never saw any punches by the AB's.Just lots of hand bag jersey pulling and shoving

I seem to recall the same thing happened against England, when they played the Aussies......(Of course it was Engerlands fault..)

The problem is they seem bereft of ideas. With the Bledisloe Cup on the line, the Wallabies came across the Tasman and played very little rugby. It seemed an exercise in keeping the score down, rather than attempting to win a game, and a trophy.

Two thirds of the match was spent inside Australia's half of the field as the Wallabies lacked any real attacking threat until the All Blacks eased off late on.

When they had the ball, which was 45 per cent of the time, the Wallabies couldn't do anything with it.

They struggled to win the battle at the breakdown, slow to present the ball and pass it on. They ran the ball 80 times to New Zealand's 107, making 84 passes to the All Blacks' 179.



"The players responded much better from an intent point of view," coach Michael Cheika said afterwards, although what intent that was is a good question.

It certainly wasn't attacking intent. It wasn't intent to dominate the breakdown. Much of their intent was to ruffle a few Kiwi feathers, and a fat load of good that did them in the end.

"We need to be more clinical, obviously. But from an intent point of view, putting their bodies on the line for the match, the contest, I was more pleased with the performance this week in that regard."

That says more about the Wallabies' showing in Sydney the week before than their effort in Wellington, because the latest showing wasn't nearly good enough.

Where Australia ran for 213 metres, Jerome Kaino made 95, on his own. The All Blacks racked up 520 running metres with ball in hand.

That was just open play.

The lineout was a complete mess for the Wallabies. Of 12 Wallabies lineouts, four were lost. One in three was stolen by the All Blacks, and at any level that isn't good enough.

Australia claimed eight lineouts in total, while Kieran Read secured 10 himself. The All Blacks individuals boast better stats than an entire team.

"I think we just need to use our options which are going to give us ball in space," Moore said of the Wallabies' awful lineout.

"There are some things we need to do to help us improve there. A lot of things go into it, timing is obviously important, but I think there's other things as well."

Moore wouldn't elaborate on what those "things" were, but when the Australians go over the tape they need to find answers quickly.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

I seem to recall the same thing happened against England, when they played the Aussies......(Of course it was Engerlands fault..)

I agree that the Convicts aren't even good at it; they're not a tough team, they are a great running team, a quick playing team when they get it right.

&, you just knew with Cooper and that poorly performing 10 that they'd have nothing; and, they had nothing.

That CKB 12 played very well, and you need centres. Fekifekiuseless has played better in these two games; somebody has shown him how and when to pass...

The CKBs are very good at the moment, so maybe seeing how the Convicts do against the Pumas and Bokks will be a fairer test. Even the mighty England would get pasted by the CKBs at the moment (I doubt we'd keep them within 25 points).

Stephen Moore is the number 1 problem and not even good enough as a player to make any other squad.

He has zero influence on the field probably negative when it comes to his team mates.

As I said before there are only two Aussie players that would make any other team and that would be Folau and Hooper.

Imagine Israel Folau playing with the All Blacks. Probably the best player in the world born in the wrong place.

^ True

Jees that Moore has a mouth on him...and a face only a mother could love.

All Blacks: Steve Hansen denies meeting with referee




All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has denied meeting referee Romain Poite before last night's 29-9 victory over Australia which wrapped up the Bledisloe Cup for another year and left Wallabies counterpart Michael Cheika fuming about perceived injustices from the match officials.

Cheika accused Hansen of meeting Frenchman Poite during the week. The latest World Rugby regulations allow for pre-test meetings with the referee, but the opposition coach must also be notified and allowed to attend.

But Hansen, who joked this morning that he was "shattered" by Cheika's accusation, said the meeting simply didn't happen.

"It's quite sad that that's come out because it's not true," he said. "Unless you [mean I said], 'gidday Romain' in the morning because he stayed here at this hotel. I did have a meeting with [assistant referee] Jaco Peyper this week and talked to him at his request with Crono [All Blacks forwards coach Mike Cron] about some of the stuff that he had seen in our game.

"I'm a firm believer that we're here to support the referees. It's a difficult game to ref so why wouldn't you have a meeting, but I certainly didn't have a meeting with Romain Poite. We don't meet the ref, we haven't for 18 to 24 months because it's just a waste of time."

Asked where he thought Cheika, who was angry at Poite's performance in the test at Westpac Stadium, and particularly at his alleged refusal to engage with Wallabies skipper Stephen Moore, got the information, Hansen said: "I'm not sure, you'd have to ask Mr Cheika."

Asked if he was "upset"at the allegation, Hansen said: "Oh, terribly. Terribly. Shattered. We've got to be able to talk about something better than that, surely."

Another issue which may upset Cheika further is the fact that prop Owen Franks has escaped a citing from Sanzaar after footage appeared showing his hand coming into contact with lock Kane Douglas's face in a maul. Cheika suggested it was an obvious foul play incident.



The Australian Rugby Union will make an official complaint to World Rugby in a dramatic aftermath to Australia's 14th straight Bledisloe Cup defeat. Photo / Getty Images.
Bledisloe Cup: ARU to make official complaint over referee Romain Poite

"I've seen the footage and I agree with the independent person who said there is nothing to answer for," Hansen said. "You've got to be really really careful until you see all the views. Social media, I think, were the people who alerted everyone to it and they certainly don't get all the views.

"There's a process and that process has been followed.

"In the same game you can go to two or three lineouts where they're driving and the same thing happened. It's an unfortunate byproduct, I think, of mauling, because the only way you can get there is by clambering over the top and then that creates a response.


"People try to pull them out of the way and the only thing they can use is the head area. We'll look at that and try to ensure we don't go to that area because it creates a problem but if there's no case to answer there's no case to answer."

The test was notable for the aggravation between the two teams, but Hansen said there was little in it.

"There's a fine line between being in the zone and being too much in it or not enough in it.

"I think at times people might have been overly keen but it was all push and shove ... there's nothing really in it."


All Blacks: Steve Hansen denies meeting with referee - Sport - NZ Herald News

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has denied meeting referee Romain Poite before last night's 29-9 victory over Australia

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Cheika accused Hansen of meeting Frenchman Poite

To be fair, Cheika should know; he has a recording of it...

When I played rugby it was [what happens on the field stays on the field] and Chieka should be sacked for not following that spirit.

Yes Chieka you have a shit team that cannot compete. How about letting some of the youngsters cop a hiding as at least they will learn and improve. The old past it players you select are only getting worse with age.

Enough said.

At least when Robbie Deans was around Australia was the number two ranked team in the world and he got the sack.

Contract aside, how long can Cheika survive?

The recriminations, fallout and whinges about non-existent meetings from what was a pretty spiteful match continue.

In what was one of the more bizarre instances Nick Phipps stripped Fekitoa's boot off during a tackle, ran back onside and then threw it over the dead-ball line into the crowd.

I didn't see it in real time myself but there's a VDO at the link below (can't post it here directly for some reason):

VIDEO: Nick Phipps throws All Blacks boot into crowd - Rugby - NZ Herald Videos

^ unsportsmanlike conduct - straight red card and a 5 game ban.

We don't want rugby becoming like football...

Five minutes left to play, down by 20 points, you have to wonder what he thought he would achieve.

It was just... Dumb.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

unsportsmanlike conduct

The boot probably didn't make it to the in goal dead ball line.

What was he supposed to do............drop it on the ground so somebody could trip over it and injure an ankle.

A bit of NZ exageration there with the head line.

^ WTF???

He is supposed to do nothing, absolutely nothing.

He is not supposed to rip off a boot, run away with it and throw it in the opposite direction. FFS, man, it's not a difficult concept.

Bloody Convicts, there really is no hope for them.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

run away

He ran 3 steps back on side Betsy.

And if that boot made it 40 metres over the fence and into the crowd I will learn the Haka.

What was he supposed to do. Tap the bloke on the shoulder and lace it back on for him......................

^ You watched the video, and you know the laws of the game.

He was not supposed to steal a players boot, run away with it and throw it in the opposite direct. He is not supposed to touch the boot; it's not his boot. It's simple!




Enjoy...

Ant is right.It was just dumb.

We need to be more clinical? Simple. Issue white coats & stethoscopes to all the side!

These CKBs always complain when the shoe is off the other foot, I'm thinking.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

As I said before there are only two Aussie players that would make any other team

erm, Pocock ?

ROUND 3

Saturday 10 September
14:35 New Zealand v. Argentina
17:05 Australia v. South Africa


The Rugby Championship
Pos P W D L -/+ BP Pts
1 New Zealand 2 2 0 0 54 2 10
2 South Africa 2 1 0 1 5 1 5
3 Argentina 2 1 0 1 -5 1 5
4 Australia 2 0 0 2 -54 0 0

Phipps is a fucking grub, always has been, always will be.....

As for Folau, he was superb.... 18 months ago, gone well off the boil.... I think he lacks the bottle in a real dog fight.....

There's a certain *Derp!* factor to Aussies whining about others being poor winners and lacking humility.

This on top of the epic whinges from the likes of Matt Burke and Phil Kearns about the AB's getting away with things and being favored by refs (statistically and factually not true) now all we need is someone like George 'Four More Years Boys' Gregan to chirp in.

Former Wallabies launch scathing attack on All Blacks character
1:27 PM Thursday Sep 8, 2016


Former Wallabies Greg Martin and Rod Kafer believe the All Blacks biggest loss, when McCaw and Carter retired, was their humility. Photo / FOX Sports


It just keeps going on and on.

While complaining about the All Blacks game play and strategy have been the norm over the past three weeks, this time two Australian rugby analysts have called into question the character of the All Blacks and their coaching staff.

Former Wallabies Greg Martin and Rod Kafer, who host FOX Sports' Rugby 360, launched a two minute tirade on their show last night, claiming the All Blacks had lost their humility with the departure of key senior players last season.

Kafer, who had 12 caps for the Wallabies, said he used to admire the genuine humility of the All Blacks, but now thinks they have gone awry.

"I watched from afar, and it might be a little bit forced at the moment, a little bit put on. And it's taken the gloss of their performance," Kafer said.

Martin agreed, offering an explanation of why this might be the case.

"We always go, 'They lost a lot of senior players including Richie McCaw and Dan Carter.' Maybe that's [humility] what they're lacking now."

Their case revolved around comments made by Sam Cane and Brodie Retallick, who said the Wallabies niggle in Wellington's Bledisloe test showed the Australians weren't focused on footy and that the All Blacks saw that as a big weakness.

Once the clip of Retallick and Cane played, Martin came back on air saying, "Aw please. Have they ever heard of Dane Coles and Franks? The niggle, we were just trying to front up for a change."

Kafer then called into question Steve Hansen's character, saying he had lost an element of respect.

"Some questions marks have been raised around Steve Hansen and some of the things he's made public," Kafer said.

"His big barb to Michael Cheika during the England series about Eddie Jones and how Chieks lost the battle, he didn't need to come out and say that."

- NZ Herald

For a nation who constantly (through habit only) see whinging as a weakness, they don't half fucking whinge a lot!!!!!

Matt Burke's comments were pathetic.....