Thread: All Blacks off the boil.

No...he played 3 games, but was obviously not in Gleeson's plans.

If I remember correctly he wanted the young Murray Mexted didn't he?

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Actually my team played Munster four times season and beat them three of them.

Now how did that happen.Munster beat the mighty AB's (fair and square) and your team beat Munster?

Not sure I follow you either...wanna rephrase the question?

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Actually my team played Munster four times season and beat them three of them.

Now how did that happen.Munster beat the mighty AB's (fair and square) and your team beat Munster?

Not sure I follow you either...wanna rephrase the question?

Just amazing how a Team can get up for ONE game.Get them to play the rest of the season like that is near impossible.Any team can beat the AB chokers.....

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Originally Posted by Bobcock

I never mentioned a dropped ball.....I'm referring to this

28-10 up and the French score. A captain with bottle like fitzy would have driven the French back and waited for the infringement and let Merhtens tick the clock over. But no...randell decides he's gonna play rugby against them and it gets worse. So when it is really obvvious what to do....he doesn't.... That was no vintage French team.....

As for players played out of position....Cullen in the centre and Goldie at FB, Goldie had many a test cap at FB, it wasn't exactly a bad decision. The fact is the players bottled it and threw away a huge lead.

Choke or arrogance, you feel free to choose.

Call it what you like.Cullen at center FFS!!!!!We all saw what happened when the AB's played a 2/5 at center last week against the Aussies.

Randel should not have even been in the playing 15.He was not good enough player and as weak as bats piss.You can call that arrogant,choker or incompetant.Take which one you like boyo.

french also played out of their skin that day.

you were favourites to beat the French in 1999 and the convicts in 2003, IMO you were the best team in both tounaments, but you choked in the semis both times, i was always confident of England beating the convicts, however had you not choked against the convicts in the semis, my money would have been on you beating England in the final.

Agree with you about Randell, crap player and an even worse captain.......

I take choke then, it winds KeeWees up far more than bottled, arrogant or incompetant.

the French put together a magnificent 20 minutes where they themselves hardly knew what was coming next. They are probably the only team in the world that can do this..... but to let it happen was criminal in my opinion.

Question: Do you think Fitzpatrick would have choked and lost that game?

^Dunno.Fitzy was not the brightest of Captains.Conservative yes.He relyed on guys like Zinzan etc.Now Zinny could change a game plan half way through a game.

So to answer your question,Fitzy may have made it more difficult for the froggies to win.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Agree with you about Randell, crap player and an even worse captain.......

the French put together a magnificent 20 minutes where they themselves hardly knew what was coming next. They are probably the only team in the world that can do this..... but to let it happen was criminal in my opinion.

Randel wasn't crap,just not good enough.On his own admission to the BBC he said that he felt that he wasn't good enough to make the team on merit...so that made the captains job much more difficult.

sadly,the garlic munchers save some of there top performances for us....

Just amazing how a Team can get up for ONE game.Get them to play the rest of the season like that is near impossible.Any team can beat the AB chokers.....

Sorry... I'm not that bright, I'm not a teacher, I think you are trying to make a point but it's too subtle for me.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Glad you mentioned the Argies, IMO they are heavily underated, argueably have the best front 5 in the world and are capable of giving any of the top teams a game on their day.

I do think that in the interests of rugby they have to find a way to let Argentina into either the tri-nations or the 6 nations. Geographicaly i suppose the tri-nations would make sense, but then again all their players play their club rugby in Europe.

quad-nations, interesting concept.

but feck the 6 nations, that's one of the most boring events in the calendar

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Just amazing how a Team can get up for ONE game.Get them to play the rest of the season like that is near impossible.Any team can beat the AB chokers.....

Sorry... I'm not that bright, I'm not a teacher, I think you are trying to make a point but it's too subtle for me.

Could Engerland or Whales beat the AB's.If they played with the passion and commitment like Munster did....then yes.get the poms or the Taffs to repeat the feat a week later...nigh on impossible.

We have all played teams that come out like men possesed.Players that "lift" themselves for the game of the year.Normally,this might last untill half time....sometimes a little longer untill they get both mentally and phyisically knackered.Every now and then a Team will do it or a whole game.....not often ,but sometimes.....

get it now?

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

get it now?

yep, you choked.

Yep....but what is the relevance to anything I said?....I was happily digging away at the Paddies til you popped up!

And no...wales cannot beat the all Blacks any week, any time. You obviously don't watch Wales much if you think that they could.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

digging away

it's only natural order that the irish kick some arse in the world cup. i hope the kiwis don't roll out the lame "choke" excuse when we throttle them

natural order.....LOL....now you really are dreaming....

the natural order is for Ireland to fail to get out of their group........

Originally Posted by Bobcock

the natural order

as is the kiwi penchant for choking

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Yep....but what is the relevance to anything I said?....I was happily digging away at the Paddies til you popped up!

And no...wales cannot beat the all Blacks any week, any time. You obviously don't watch Wales much if you think that they could.

Well how did Munster beat the AB's then?Sadly,that same attitude that you have is in the Ireland and Welsh teams.They don't believe they can beat us,so they don't.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

that same attitude that you have is in the Ireland and Welsh teams.They don't believe they can beat us,so they don't

dunno 'bout that anymore. can't speak for the tafys but the irish will be up for it.

Yeah well, "I could have died" o'driscoll has said that they have lost this attitude when playing the AB's now.Didn't help 'em much in the last game though.....

we have warmed up nicely by whipping the convicts and the 'boks. bring on the chokers

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

they have lost this attitude

"the bull" hayes will see to that

^Now who is the arrogant one.....

Best Heyes doesn't start getting too friendly with jerry then..

this lad will sort yer tanned kiwi out..

Nobody has sorted Jerry out.I'd pay money to see either Heys or the ginger try...I know a little about Jerrys background.Make most of the so called 'hardmen' of rugby cringe....

stringer will sort him out!!!

^now that's low......:banhim1: