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    Nfl - 2015/2016

    I've been reading up from abroad on my home team. They are looking god at the power rankings. It's a long season. There will be ups and downs and injuries.

    I am seriously considering "NFL Gamepass" from NFL.com to watch all games of the season of my team. You can watch them any time (because of the time difference.


    My first post of this thread will be Seahawk Safety Kam Chancellor's holdout.

    The Seahawk's policy is only to renegotiate contracts in the final year and Kam has more than one year left.

    He stands to earn $4.5 million this year, and the Seahawks only have $4.9 million in cap room.


    Seahawks player is losing a ton of money in a holdout that has no end in sight


    EMMETT KNOWLTON

    Aug. 10, 2015, 5:11 PM

    Seattle's All-Pro safety Kam Chancellor has been holding out of Seahawks training camp for nine days and will reportedly continue to do so until he renegotiates his contract, per Field Gulls. Following an off-season in which multiple Seahawks earned large contract extensions, Chancellor wants to join the club and get his.

    But for all his talent, the strong safety has very little leverage as he attempts to negotiate a new deal. Seattle has a strict policy of only renegotiating contracts during their final year and doesn't want to set a precedent that does otherwise. Chancellor, meanwhile, is under contract until 2017.

    The holdout is not just about principle, however. Like all holdouts, it's ultimately about money, and the Seahawks are strapped for cash. Chancellor will make $4.55 million in 2015, per spotrac.com, and Seattle only has $4.9 million left in cap space. This makes the likelihood of a bigger deal with more guaranteed money quite tricky, and so the stalemate presses on.

    The longer Chancellor holds out, the more money he'll continue to lose. Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times nicely explained the details of how punitively teams can fine players during holdouts, all as part of the most recent CBA:

    [T]he team can fine [Chancellor] for $30,000 for every day missed, so up to $330,000 at this point, along with the ability to recoup up to 25 percent of his signing bonus for this season (which as $1 million) if he misses all of training camp. The way that rule works is the team can ask to recoup 15 percent of his bonus after the sixth day and then one percent a day up to 25 percent. So, Chancellor would be subject to fines of up to $530,000 as of today. But fines are at team discretion and often waived once a player reports.

    If Chancellor somehow didn't get a deal done before the start of the regular season, the penalties would increase further. Joel Corry, a former sports agent, broke down holdouts last year at CBS Sports:

    An additional 25 percent can be recovered with the first missed regular season game. After four missed weeks, a team can recover 1/17 of the prorated amount for each additional week of the player's absence. The maximum a team can recover in a season is the entire prorated amount of the player's signing bonus.

    It's highly unlikely that Chancellor will miss any regular season games, but if he does, it will cost him $267,647 on top of the holdout fines. Right now, with Chancellor holding out and Earl Thomas still slowly recovering from injury, the Legion of Boom will open its first preseason game with a safety tandem of DeShawn Shead and Steven Terrell. Nobody wants that when the games start to matter. At some point either the Seahawks will have to change their rule on renegotiation or Chancellor will have to swallow his pride.


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    It's going to be really interesting to see how the Seahawks respond this season after finishing last season with what will probably be known forever as "the dumbest play call in history".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    It's going to be really interesting to see how the Seahawks respond this season after finishing last season with what will probably be known forever as "the dumbest play call in history".
    As soon as they lined up with RW in the shot gun I sensed it was odd.

    This was Bevell's move, once again.

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    I like the bleacher report that comes into my "marketing email account." Bleacher report is good. It's early. Okung has had a lot of injuries.

    Seattle Seahawks Offensive Line Could Be Fatal Flaw for Super Bowl Bid – Bleacher Report

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    Seattle Seahawks Offensive Line Could Be Fatal Flaw for Super Bowl Bid – Bleacher Report


    In re-signing Russell Wilson and Bobby Wagner, after acquiring Jimmy Graham through trade, the Seattle Seahawks have defied the odds.

    The franchise has retained control of all of its key defensive pieces and re-signed its starting quarterback to a huge contract extension. A few players may be disgruntled—Kam Chancellor is holding out, and Michael Bennett has made his frustrations with his deal known—but the Seahawks control their rights.

    Not only have the Seahawks retained those pieces, but they’ve added Graham, Frank Clark and Tyler Lockett. Graham cost the team a first-round pick and starting center Max Unger, while Clark and Lockett were the team’s second- and third-round picks.

    Each of those players offered the Seahawks different pieces they were lacking, but none addressed their most pressing weakness. One (Graham) even took a piece away from the offensive line with Unger‘s departure.

    Therefore, while the Seahawks have retained all their key pieces from past successes, they have done so at a cost. During Wilson’s career to this point, the Seahawks haven’t had a strong offensive line; they’ve often neglected it. When they won the Super Bowl in 2014, they did so in spite of their offensive line. That unit was bad, but the current group looks set to be worse.

    So much worse that it could be the sole reason they don’t return to the Super Bowl for the third season in a row.

    Seattle Seahawks Offensive Line Could Be Fatal Flaw for Super Bowl Bid ? Bleacher Report

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    Big problems for Cam Newton.... his best weapon Kelvin Benjamin has torn an ACL.....

    Sadly I think the famed TD rivalry between the Niners and the Seaslugs won't be much to look at this season......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    Big problems for Cam Newton.... his best weapon Kelvin Benjamin has torn an ACL.....
    Yeah.

    Sadly I think the famed TD rivalry between the Niners and the Seaslugs won't be much to look at this season......
    It's going to be a tough year for the 49ers. And Gore is gone.

    Teams change quickly in the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    Big problems for Cam Newton.... his best weapon Kelvin Benjamin has torn an ACL.....
    Yeah.

    Sadly I think the famed TD rivalry between the Niners and the Seaslugs won't be much to look at this season......
    It's going to be a tough year for the 49ers. And Gore is gone.

    Teams change quickly in the NFL.
    New coach too at 49erland.

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    If only it was Gore.......

    Try adding Patrick Willis, Justin Smith, Aldon Smith, Michael Crabtree (good riddance) Chris Borland, Mike Iupati, Anthony Davis, Andy Lee, Chris Culliver, Ray McDonald Dan Skuta and Perrish Cox.

    oh and. Coaching team with one of the best defensive minds in the game and a rather good head coach.

    And we hired a rookie head coach that I have no faith in at all...... Never even held a coordinators job..... But at least he will say yes to Jed York!!

    4 wins at best.....

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    This thread reminds me, 'Hard Knocks' is on again.

    Love that show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    4 wins at best.....
    Whoa ... that's setting the bar low. 4 losses for sure since they play Arizona and Seattle twice each ...

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    The Niners have a tough division and are paired with the NFC North and the AFC North so they play Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinatti, Green Bay, Chicago, Detroit and their two extra games are the Giants and ermmmm.... someone tough...Denver?... no that's pre-season.... someone tough.

    At least we get Cleveland.......

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    ^ I'm the world's # 1 49er hater ... I have two teams I follow being the Seahawks from the NFC and the Bengals for the AFC.

    But I'm going to say the 49ers have a shot at 8-8.

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    What did you do when the Seahawks were in the AFC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    I'm the world's # 1 49er hater
    Nah, we've been hated by much better than you..... count the rings Seaslug biatch....

    (mind you one of my all time favourite players was a Seaslug)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    What did you do when the Seahawks were in the AFC?
    Was born and raised in Ohio and spent many years stationed in Washington state, but I didn't officially jump on the Seahawks bandwagon until I made Washington state my home of record in 2007.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    I'm the world's # 1 49er hater
    Nah, we've been hated by much better than you..... count the rings Seaslug biatch....

    (mind you one of my all time favourite players was a Seaslug)
    Don't forget those two SB losses by the Bengals to the 49ers. The second one was as painful as it gets.

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    great game

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    Oh by the way ... Only one person from my high school, West Holmes in Ohio, has ever made it to the NFL and he played 5 years for the Seahawks in their early years ... A guy by the name of Joe Norman ... # 54 I think.

    Your favorite Seahawk was? Let me guess ... Steve Largent?

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    Right, I'll elaborate, I was eating a sandwich and it was as much as I could do to type 'great game'

    Firstly as a Niner fan I dislike NFC teams though there are occasions when I've had a soft spot for a team that is great (the 86 Bears, the 87 Giants) but never ever the Cowboys.

    In the AFC I liked Seahawks and Bengals.

    I liked Sam Wyche, his comments after the game to Bill Walsh were just class... he knew he'd just been turned over by the Master and was genuinely (as much as one could be in that situation) pleased for him.

    The game was tense, the two early injuries, Krumrie's was nasty, the kick return for TD (Stamford Jennings?) and the final drive made it one of the best SB's ever.

    I still like the Bengals but the Seahawks nah... they came into our division... it's a shame that our failings will put the rivalry to bed for a bit, you can hate the Cardinals this year.

    As for my favourite Seahawk...... Curt Warner.

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    My team is the Houston Texans*












    *this season, it changes according to whoever is featured in Hard Knocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    My team is the Houston Texans
    Solid defense ... and the team that has prevented the Bengals from getting past the first round of the play-offs 2 of past three years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Solid defense
    J.J. Watt is, well, J.J. Watt, Brian Cushing is an utter nutcase, and apparently Clowney's not too far off a return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    Sadly I think the famed TD rivalry between the Niners and the Seaslugs won't be much to look at this season......
    It is going to be a very painful season for you and AO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    count the rings Seaslug biatch....
    Meh. Old news. We could easily beat that before the winers are good again..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Solid defense
    J.J. Watt is, well, J.J. Watt, Brian Cushing is an utter nutcase, and apparently Clowney's not too far off a return.
    They just got Wilfork from New England too ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    Sadly I think the famed TD rivalry between the Niners and the Seaslugs won't be much to look at this season......
    It is going to be a very painful season for you and AO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    count the rings Seaslug biatch....
    Meh. Old news. We could easily beat that before the winers are good again..
    Sports teams can always be a source of minor tension between AO and I ... NBA, NFL, MLB, NCAA ... Just about every level ... Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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