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    Mayweather vs. Pacquaio. Worth it?

    So, who saw the Mayweather vs. Pacquaio fight? I didn't watch but could have paid to see it.

    I am putting this thread in the pub because it's not really about a sport or boxing, but about whether posters think it was a worthy bout or an over-hyped, over-priced snoozer. Calling it the "fight of the century" was dubious marketing at best during the lead up to the fight. It was a pricey PPV (Pay Per View).


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    Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: the uber-bout that wasn’t. The so-called fight of the century was pay-per-snooze, a complete waste of everyone’s time and money — except in a boxing community now rolling in obscene amounts of cash, surely in disbelief they fooled us rubes again.

    The six years that had passed since Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao should have originally fought might have built the anticipation for Saturday night, but it actually robbed us the possibility of a fight that might live up to the hype. Pacquiao was an old 36, with a pedestrian 3-2 record in his last five bouts entering the Mayweather fight. He faced a size disadvantage that even brilliant footwork couldn’t help. Mayweather was the hype machine. The money man. He’s the straw that stirs the drink, if you will. The Las Vegas millionaire was the undefeated champion at 47-0 and looking to break Rocky Marciano’s record of 49-0. He was everything a boxing star should be, with all the charisma and magnetism we expect from stars of the sweetest science. Floyd’s problem: He has none of the likability.

    But we ignored all this because we wanted the fight to be something greater than it was. We attached meaning to it when this was clearly a payout fight, at best. (Floyd even admitted as much.) Oh, they wanted to win, but this hardly evoked the memories of Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Sugar Ray, The Hitman and Hagler fighting brawls that would land them in hospitals for belts that defined them as athletes. This was just glorified sparring.

    The hype grew so big that some of the greatest minds in boxing convinced themselves that things would be different. That Manny’s reach would suddenly grew longer. That Floyd wouldn’t throw love-taps for most of the fight, content to play defense and let one or two power punches give him rounds. They thought that the “whoosh” made by Pacquiao’s missed punches and the crowd noise that followed would fool us into thinking this was a real bout, not robbery with the press of a PPV button. They were selling a lie and we were all too happy to buy into it.

    You can only fool people so long. By the third round, it was clear Mayweather was going to be successful in playing defense for nine more rounds. By the seventh, it was obvious Pacquiao wasn’t going to be able to get him down. The announcement that Mayweather was the victor was an inevitability. Pacquiao was the loser, but he had company. All of us were too. Most had watched the classic end to the Spurs-Clippers Game 7 before flipping over to the fight. It had action, unpredictability and “did you see that?!” moments. Basically it was the exact opposite of Mayweather-Pacquiao. Oh, and it didn’t cost $99.95.

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    And to add, I'm downloading the torrent for the fight now.

    I was bit miffed by Manny saying after the fight in an interview, that "I think I won the fight," and he said something like Mayweather, was "just running around."

    A bit silly.

    And this fight took 6 years to happen?

    Boxing is often a charade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Heart
    Boxing is often a charade.
    Any sport that is professional is a 'charade'.

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    I would of preferred an all out war myself, alas boxing is a chess match sometimes.
    We always want a blood splattered canvas and brain shattering KO's each and every bout, it's in our brutal nature.

    However, Mayweather is a tactician, he won't fight you at your strength, he will adapt and find your weakness. Can't blame him really, when the #1 priority of boxing (to his mind) is to win (in the most careful and efficient manner) not to appease our lust for a brutal toe-to-toe slugfest.

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    Manny says "I thought I won the fight." Look at the stats.

    "I was never hurt," but now he claims a shoulder injury.


    “I thought I caught him many more times than he caught me,” Pacquiao said. “I was never hurt.”

    In fact, however, it was Mayweather who threw and connected more punches. According to CompuBox fight statistics, Mayweather landed 148 of 435 punches (34 percent), while Pacquiao landed just 81 of 429 (19 percent).

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/04/sp...uiao.html?_r=0


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    I felt cheated watching it for free. Was always going to be an anti-climax, after all the hype and Mayweather's patented defensive skills. (At least he manages to knock his women silly, though Why do we ignore Mayweather's domestic abuse? - CNN.com).

    On the plus side, I watched at a mate's house c/w bbq, cold beers, and good company so it wasn't all bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    I felt cheated watching it for free. Was always going to be an anti-climax, after all the hype and Mayweather's patented defensive skills. (At least he manages to knock his women silly, though Why do we ignore Mayweather's domestic abuse? - CNN.com).
    Yeah, I'll watch it soon - if I can get through. Have the download.

    Mayweather is not well liked for the wife beatin' and his personality.

    On the plus side, I watched at a mate's house c/w bbq, cold beers, and good company so it wasn't all bad.
    Yeah, that's a big part of it.

    Getting together with mates for beer and BBQ - This makes American Superbowls worthy, as often the matchup or game is not that good in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart
    I felt cheated watching it for free.
    Yep and we have been waiting for so long with all the fanfair from both camps.

    And you still have tossers claiming the fight was not a ruse.

    Old men, infact I believe Mayweather could beat most light heavyweights because of his reach and speed but who wants to watch a jab and escape artist.

    Boring as watching paint dry.

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    a great excuse to drink Guinness at 9 am

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    It was a huge anticlimax if you believed the hype, a predictable bore if you knew the participants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kmart
    lt cheated watching it for free.
    Yep and we have been waiting for so long with all the fanfair from both camps.

    And you still have tossers claiming the fight was not a ruse.

    Old men, infact I believe Mayweather could beat most light heavyweights because of his reach and speed but who wants to watch a jab and escape artist.

    Boring as watching paint dry.

    If Manny P did indeed have a bad shoulder was a scam for PPV and the massive amount that bet on the fight

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    I'm amazed at the money paid to a couple of boxer well past their used by date....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    I'm amazed at the money paid to a couple of boxer well past their used by date....


    Which other boxer would be odd on to beat either of them?

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    I didn't even know who mayweather or pacino were until late last week

    and then only because all the flippers here wanted to be able to watch the fight

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    Total waste of time.

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    I have with and against my better judgement watched the fight again and wonder why Mayweather didn't stand blow to blow with a boxer who he exhibited during the fight could not hurt him.

    When you consider the money spent and the product returned there is a case for legal action.

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    Post above,

    I can only speak for US boxing. Lots of questionable points awarded, decisions, talk ng dives, judging, and overhyping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kmart
    I felt cheated watching it for free.
    Yep and we have been waiting for so long with all the fanfair from both camps.

    And you still have tossers claiming the fight was not a ruse.

    Old men, infact I believe Mayweather could beat most light heavyweights because of his reach and speed but who wants to watch a jab and escape artist.

    Boring as watching paint dry.
    Those who are easily sucked into [and fooled by] such promotion and activity anyway...

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    MMA is the way forward for fight fans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    watched the fight again and wonder
    so the hype got to you,

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    It certainly was worth it for the players and promoters. A most perfect example of professional marketing skills.

    Kudo's to the management. Think they can milk the machine one more time with a rematch? After all pacman wasn't 100% with a shoulder injury eh?...

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    It was the best fight ever- I didn't watch a second of it, but the millions who stayed in Sunday morning to view it left the roads virtually empty, and I had a great 300km ride through some awesome mountain roads- I wish they'd fight on a weekly basis.
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
    HST

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    Give Mayweather his due, he is a brilliant businessman as well as boxer. He knows his "Money" persona pisses more people off than actually want to watch his fights, (which are usually quite dull after the opening bell finally sounds). People will queue around the block to buy tickets or PPV wanting to see him lose, or hopefully just to see him get knocked on his arse.
    People certainly see his fights as huge global events, whatever the outcome. He is now bigger than the sport he has dominated.
    The guy has percentage points on every bit of the action; the seats, PPV, merchandise, even the hot dogs and refreshments in the arena are controlled by him.
    Pro boxing has always been controlled by dodgy people. From the early years of mafia interest, up through the eras of Don King and other seedy promoters, it has usually been the fighters that have been ripped off on deals, purses, opportunities for titles, or outright told to "throw" fights, etc. That demographic seems to have been reversed lately.
    It may be Mayweather's legacy as a fighter-turned-promoter, savvy businessman, and ultra-successful spin-merchant that outlasts his boxing achievements?
    Certainly, boxing didn't win any new fans on Saturday night.

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    Never fails to amaze me the amount of people who fall for all this old hype and crap time after time.

    I would think the way the health + safety brigade are being allowed to call all the shots these days it only has a limited amount of run left in it anyway , they will soon have to wear huge foam gloves and be coated in marshmallow
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    I really enjoyed taking money from the Mayweather haters!

    The hype never got to me as I've seen most if not all of his fights...One of the greatest ever to step into the ring!

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