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    Should a convicted Rapist get his old job back?







    17 October 2014 Last updated at 12:22








    Ched Evans: Footballer released from prison after rape sentence


    Former Sheffield United striker Ched Evans has been released from prison after serving half of his five-year sentence for rape.
    The 25-year-old was found guilty in April 2012 of raping a 19-year-old woman in a hotel in May 2011.
    Evans maintains his innocence and will make a "very personal and profound" statement on his website next week.
    Almost 150,000 people have signed a petition urging Sheffield United not to take the Wales international back.
    But Blades manager Nigel Clough said he had held talks with club officials about the possibility of Evans returning.
    Evans left Wymott Prison, near Leyland in Lancashire, in a car at about 05:30 BST on Friday.
    United signed the player for 3m in 2009, but released him the month after he was convicted of raping a woman at a hotel near Rhyl, Denbighshire.
    Evans denied the offence, but was found guilty by a jury at Caernarfon Crown Court.
    Ched Evans's career in numbers

    Club Games Goals Manchester City
    16
    1
    Norwich City (loan)
    28
    10
    Sheffield United
    113
    48
    Wales
    13
    1

    A statement on his website on Friday said he would continue to "fight to clear his name".
    It added: "Next week Ched will make a very personal and profound statement by video. Ched is now adjusting to normal life after serving a sentence for a crime consistently denied."
    Professional Footballers' Association chief executive Gordon Taylor said last week that Evans should be allowed to continue his career after his release.
    And Clough told BBC Radio Sheffield on Wednesday: "We've had one or two discussions and the owners will make a decision on it.
    "It is above a football level. If he comes back then we [the coaching staff] will decide whether to play him or not."
    Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg urged the club's owners to "think really long and hard" before re-signing Evans.
    Clegg, MP for Sheffield Hallam, said: "When you take a footballer on, you are not taking just a footballer these days, you are also taking on a role model."
    Richard Caborn, former sports minister and ex-MP for Sheffield Central, said Evans must "show remorse and say sorry" before he can be considered for a return to playing professionally.
    Nick Clegg urged Sheffield United to think hard about the possibility of taking Ched Evans back

    Former Manchester City forward Evans, capped 13 times by Wales, scored 48 goals in 113 games for the Blades before his imprisonment.
    Jill Saward, who was raped in the notorious Ealing Vicarage case in 1986, believes allowing Evans to play professional football again would send out "a totally wrong message".
    "We don't want young people being influenced by icons or celebrities who have a past like this," Saward, a high-profile victim of crime campaigner, told BBC Breakfast.
    "I'm not saying he can't do anything in football but I don't think he should be playing."
    Christopher Stacey, director of reformed offenders' charity Unlock, argued on Breakfast that Evans deserves a second chance.
    "There is a difference between condoning his behaviour and giving him a job," said Stacey.
    "People like Ched Evans have to go somewhere. They are back in the world and we have to find a way of reintegrating them.
    "Ultimately people have to be the best at the job they are going for and that's a decision Sheffield United have to make as an employer."



    I have to declare an interest her as I am a lifelong United supporter. At first I was ambivalent about this and then I thought if he doesn't sign for us, someone else in the division will sign him and he comes back to haunt us.

    In the end my conscience got the better of me and I do not want the club to sign him. We are a family club and his signing would divide the support and the dressing room probably. He would bring a load of baggage and public interest from the media and rival supporters, of the kind our club just does not need.

    The final nail is the event itself. Sloppy seconds with a woman so drunk she has no recall of the event. Not the role model I want for my football mad kids who are also United supporters.
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    Only if he's subjected to regular buggerings in the post-match bath.

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    Tell you one thing - I don't think deputy prime ministers should be sticking their oar in.

    Regarding this guy, personally I think he's done his time and should be left to get on with his life.

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    Dodgy case this one, having read various articles on it, it seems a case of he said/she said and the jury went with she said, he could have copped a lighter sentence if gone guilty and been eligible for parole earlier if admitted his guilt but always maintained his innocence. But he's done his time and prison is supposed to be about rehabilitating you, so if a club is prepared to employ him then why shouldn't he be allowed to play football again.

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    Lad Owls in the rain have the best advice

    To wet to woo

    I'm inclined to agree while the man has served the legal term footballers like pop stars are role models to the young.
    While his career may be over in UK with sufficient talent perhaps he can get a game in a country where moral standards are sub par or hub par.

    As for any life long fan of Sheffield Utd my deepest condolences and a ditty to cheer you up.

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    I have no issue with him playing again, just not for 'my' club.

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    In 2012, the jury was told how the 19-year-old victim was so drunk after downing four double vodkas and a sambuca she has no recollection of having sex with Evans and boyhood pal Clayton McDonald.

    She awoke the next day to find herself naked and alone in a Premier Inn hotel room.

    The trial heard how McDonald met the waitress outside a takeaway as she attempted to get into a taxi.

    McDonald got into the taxi with her and directed it to the hotel room - booked by Evans.

    He sent a text message to his pal during the journey telling him he had "got a bird".

    McDonald had sex with the victim, before Evans arrived a short time later and joined in, as two more friends tried to film the sordid affair through a window.

    Both men insisted the teenager was able to consent but the jury did not believe Evans who was convicted of rape.

    McDonald was acquitted.

    Ched Evans: The sordid night that turned a star footballer into rapist - Mirror Online

    Read the full article there and make your own mind up.

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    He has always stated that he was innocent of the charge.
    But he has done his time guess its time to go back to work.

    They accused the media of editing interviews to “satisfy an agenda”.
    Evans’ family have consistently argued that he was wrongly convicted of rape.
    Evans, 25, was sentenced to five years in prison in 2012, after raping an inebriated 19-year-old woman in a hotel room in north Wales. His friend and fellow footballer, Clayton McDonald, was cleared of the same charge.
    The woman said throughout the trial that she had no memory of the incident. Evans maintains his innocence, claiming that the sex was consensual.
    Ched Evans family attacks charity Rape Crisis and media coverage over 'role model' son - People - News - The Independent
    Fascists dress in black and go around telling people what to do, whereas priests... more drink!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui
    a 19-year-old woman in a hotel
    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    so drunk after downing four double vodkas and a sambuca
    fcuk off

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    I have no issue with him playing again, just not for 'my' club.
    Top man a Blade.
    Don't forget he has been paid 20.000 a week whilst inside his contract was honored by the club.

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    This was on the news this morning.

    Plenty of 'rapists' have been reinstated. I believe a Plymouth goalkeeper who had his wicked way is now club captain.

    Purely depends on the case.

    You obviously wouldn't hire the likes of Ted Bundy to solve your left flank issue - mainly because he's dead, but also because, well, you know...

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    So basically they had sex but the woman says she was too drunk to give consent, but was not drunk enough that she was able to give consent to the bloke who went first and was cleared of rape and she had nothing else to drink in between giving the first bloke the nod and Evans having sloppy seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klong toey
    Don't forget he has been paid 20.000 a week whilst inside his contract was honored by the club.

    United signed the player for 3m in 2009, but released him the month after he was convicted.

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    We're all being raped by the sporting world.
    Drags society into it's wretched and crooked existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    We're all being raped by the sporting world.
    without the double vodlkas

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by klong toey
    Don't forget he has been paid 20.000 a week whilst inside his contract was honored by the club.

    United signed the player for 3m in 2009, but released him the month after he was convicted.
    Must have misheard what was said on the radio maybe he was only paid for a month.
    Sure they said he was paid for over 8 months crap station never get much right.
    Sorry not one for giving out duff info.

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    It's worth pointing out that he has only been released on licence until the other 2.5 years of his sentence is completed. Due to a backlog his hearing to have the conviction quashed (one appeal already failed) is unlikely to be heard for at least 2 years.
    His girlfriend stands by him and her father, a millionaire businessman, has bankrolled barristers, solicitors and private investigators to aid his various appeals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui
    businessman
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    Regarding this guy, personally I think he's done his time and should be left to get on with his life.
    I believe that to be the only the sensible thing

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    I think its about time a lad who got drunk and shagged a fat ugly bird gets her locked away for rape.

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    You would think that with all that needs fixing in the UK at the moment that waste of space Clegg could find something more important to poke his nose into.
    These cases are debatable. not rape as most people see it. a hard one to call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Fella
    These cases are debatable. not rape as most people see it. a hard one to call.
    He seems to view an away day with the lads as an entitlement to dismiss relationship conventions.
    Go out with the lads get drunk and follow your best mate up a bird in a coma. No guilt or contrition on his part.
    He might, just possibly be technically not guilty of rape, but I do not want my children idolising a footballer with his character, or his attitude of entitlement to abusing women.
    As I said previously I don't mind where he plies his trade as long as it's not at 'my' club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui
    Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg urged the club's owners to "think really long and hard" before re-signing Evans.
    Clegg, MP for Sheffield Hallam, said: "When you take a footballer on, you are not taking just a footballer these days, you are also taking on a role model."
    I see it's not just Thais who don't think things through or doesn't Mr Clegg believe that politicians are somehow role models for citizens

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Fella
    These cases are debatable. not rape as most people see it. a hard one to call.
    He seems to view an away day with the lads as an entitlement to dismiss relationship conventions.
    Go out with the lads get drunk and follow your best mate up a bird in a coma. No guilt or contrition on his part.
    He might, just possibly be technically not guilty of rape, but I do not want my children idolising a footballer with his character, or his attitude of entitlement to abusing women.
    As I said previously I don't mind where he plies his trade as long as it's not at 'my' club.
    Sadly Chas the premier league is full of guys just like this man and a lot even worse. They have come to believe they are worth the ridiculous salaries they are handed and have developed an attitude to go with it.
    The trouble is with cases like this is you are not allowed to tell women that getting off your face and sloping off to a hotel with a man might just make you part responsible. The law is also favoured towards the woman thanks to that man hating Labour minister Harriet Harmen
    Guilty or not I would imagine his career is as good as over which is OK if guilty and a shame if the guyis innocent
    Treat everyone as a complete and utter idiot and you can only ever be pleasantly surprised !

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