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    Donít talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking

    For some reason I can't paste the article here.

    So here's the link

    Looks like it'll be worth watching.


    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7107207.ece

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    that didn't work,

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy
    Don’t talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking
    Easy for him to say.

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    Hawking’s logic on aliens is, for him, unusually simple. The universe, he points out, has 100 billion galaxies, each containing hundreds of millions of stars. In such a big place, Earth is unlikely to be the only planet where life has evolved.

    We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet.


    Don’t talk to aliens, warns Stephen Hawking - Times Online

    hard arguments to fault

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    He concludes that trying to make contact with alien races is “a little too risky”. He said: “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the Native Americans.”



    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle7107207.ece

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    At least we can run away if they are hostile.
    He's only got 12 hour battery life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dogcatcher
    At least we can run away if they are hostile. He's only got 12 hour battery life.

    green owed.

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    Obviously religion would play a major role and cause most of the problems with any alien encounter. That and millions of people would suddenly discover that the things they were following and believing in would in effect, be a load of BS causing massive upheaval. Better to keep the status quo.

    I wouldn't like to see the consequences...
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    Belief in Aliens is about as rational as belief in a Deity
    Last edited by good2bhappy; 25-04-2010 at 11:38 AM. Reason: Thanks JJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    Belief in Aliens is about as rational as belief in a Diety
    I don't know. My old Mum used to totally believe in the Atkins diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    Belief in Aliens is about as rational as belief in a Diety
    'fraid not , mathematical probabilities almost guarantee they exist .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    mathematical probabilities almost guarantee they exist .
    so we are talking statistics?

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    I'd laugh if they find us, and all they wanted to do was to convert us to their religion. It would be beautiful payback.

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    Nah, dey wanna fek our wimin.

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    "Dont talk to aliens" is that not what we are doing here on TD half the time

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    ďI suspect there could be life and intelligence out there in forms we canít conceive,Ē he said. ďJust as a chimpanzee canít understand quantum theory, it could be there are aspects of reality that are beyond the capacity of our brains.Ē
    Well that *definitely* covers half of TD then.....


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    well mr. hawkings does have an imagination and maybe he has just discovered it .

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    The odds are there is life out there, probably quite a lot of it, but the question is what form of life exists, and is it more advanced or dumber than what we have on this planet. One would have to presume dumber as if more advanced then logic dictates they would find us before we find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    One would have to presume dumber as if more advanced then logic dictates they would find us before we find them.
    unless of course , we've been found and dismissed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post

    unless of course , we've been found and dismissed
    There is that arguement, but i would imagine a more advanced life would have found some use for this planet even if just to rape and pillage.

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    I look at the amount of life in 2 day old dirty coffee cup and I am sold.
    There is life out there.
    I can't believe that amonst a trillion stars and a trillion trillion planets there is an ants nest somewhere.
    Bloody hell, I,ve got enough ants in my kitchen to populate sector E of the universe.
    Falling asleep and waking up is not the same as passing out and coming to.

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    SETI Fiction: They're Made Out Of Meat

    They're Made Out Of Meat

    by Terry Bisson
    From "Bears Discover Fire and Other Stories," Copyright © 1994, Tor Books

    "They're made out of meat."
    "Meat?"
    "Meat. They're made out of meat."
    "Meat?"
    "There's no doubt about it. We picked several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, probed them all the way through. They're completely meat."
    "That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars."
    "They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines."
    "So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact."
    "They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."
    "That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat."
    "I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in the sector and they're made out of meat."
    "Maybe they're like the Orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage."
    "Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn't take too long. Do you have any idea the life span of meat?"
    "Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the Weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside."
    "Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads like the Weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through."
    "No brain?"
    "Oh, there is a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat!"
    "So... what does the thinking?"
    "You're not understanding, are you? The brain does the thinking. The meat."
    "Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"
    "Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you getting the picture?"
    "Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat."
    "Finally, Yes. They are indeed made out meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."
    "So what does the meat have in mind?"
    "First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the universe, contact other sentients, swap ideas and information. The usual."
    "We're supposed to talk to meat?"
    "That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there? Anyone home?' That sort of thing."
    "They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?"
    "Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."
    "I thought you just told me they used radio."
    "They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."
    "Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?"
    "Officially or unofficially?"
    "Both."
    "Officially, we are required to contact, welcome, and log in any and all sentient races or multi-beings in the quadrant, without prejudice, fear, or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing."
    "I was hoping you would say that."
    "It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?"
    "I agree one hundred percent. What's there to say?" `Hello, meat. How's it going?' But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?"
    "Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can't live on them. And being meat, they only travel through C space. Which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact."
    "So we just pretend there's no one home in the universe."
    "That's it."
    "Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you have probed? You're sure they won't remember?"
    "They'll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them."
    "A dream to meat! How strangely appropriate, that we should be meat's dream."
    "And we can mark this sector unoccupied."
    "Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others? Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?"
    "Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotations ago, wants to be friendly again."
    "They always come around."
    "And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how unutterably cold the universe would be if one were all alone."

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    Excellent Daffy. Most amusing.

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    Dafty, you really should link to what you C&P.

    They're made out of Meat, by Hugo and Nebula Winner Terry Bisson

    Sorry, didn't notice the link at the top of your post, apologies.

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