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ChiangMai noon · 11-09-2008, 12:19 PM

Where can I download Thai subtitles for my torrents?

Also, how do I hard encode them into a dvd for burning?

durianfan · 11-09-2008, 01:06 PM

CMN, I spent hours and hours trying to do exactly what you're trying to do. There is a sticky on ajarn about it:

Subtitles! - Ajarn Forum - Living and Teaching In Thailand

There is a site for Thai subtitles:
:: ThaiSubtitle.com :: ÈÙ¹ÂìÃÇÁ«ÑºäµàµÔÅÊÓËÃÑº¤¹ä·Â, Translate Movie Subtitles English into Thai

You can only download the subtitles that are 100%. I tried to do this for Lost Season 4, because the g/f wanted to watch it. I followed the instructions written in the sticky, but couldn't make it work. I even downloaded several different media players. The basic problem is that none of the players recognized the Thai text. You need to download the font as well, but mine kept coming up in some gibberish. After about 2 weeks of trying, I finally gave up.

If you get it to work somehow, let me know and I'll green you for life.

ChiangMai noon · 11-09-2008, 01:08 PM

^
thanks durianfan.

guess it means looking at ajarn again

quick copy and paste to here I think.

Frankenstein · 11-09-2008, 05:58 PM

To get working Thai subs, go for VOBSUB (which comes as a pair of files, one .sub file and one .idx file). NOT to be confused with micro-DVD subs, which is a text based format that also has the file ending .sub, but are standalone subtitles.

If you get text based subtitles your operating system needs to support Thai, and arranging that can be a bitch.

VOBSUB subtitles are bitmap-based subtitles and are compatible with most decent software media players, such as VLC, as well as some of the better standalone DVD players.

Among media boxes, DvicO's TviX players is one of the few offering support for VOBSUB subtitles, whereas the NMT platform has yet to add support in their firmware; it is in the pipeline though.

The downside with VOBSUB subtitles is that due to their graphics-based format, they take up a lot more space than text-based formats. This in turn means that burning one DVDrip to one CD will generally not be possible, since DVDrips in AVI format typically are sized to fit exactly on a CD (695-700MB) and a VOBSUB subtitle set is typically several MBs, so they won't fit together.

The solution is to watch from your computer's hard disk, save to an external hard disk, or to DVDs as data files.

For this reason it is worth investing a few thousand baht in a DVD player that will play your XviD and DivX AVI files from a DVD disc.

ChiangMai noon · 11-09-2008, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

The solution is to watch from your computer's hard disk, save to an external hard disk, or to DVDs as data files.

For this reason it is worth investing a few thousand baht in a DVD player that will play your XviD and DivX AVI files from a DVD disc.

thanks.

this is what i do anyway, have a divx compatible dvd player.

will give this a go.

but where do i get the subs from?

durianfan · 11-09-2008, 07:00 PM

^As do I - it's how I watch all of my torrents. The only site that I've seen Thai subs for download is the one I mentioned a few posts above. I have no idea if they are good Thai subs or just some moron inputting Thai subs from a Thai-English dictionary like they have on the brand new movies you can buy here.

I think I did download that VOBSUB program. It mentions exactly what to do in the ajarn sticky. I could do everything except for one thing: change the font on my media player. I tried GOM, VLC, BSPlayer, etc. You can't change the font of the subtitles in any of them, and the Thai script has a specific font you need to use in order for it to show up (I forget what it is now). Once you have this font, you should be able to just change it in the media player files, but I could never make it work. I can encode English subs just fine, but not Thai. Surely there's a way to do it, and if anyone can successfully change the font in their media player, let me know --- I would be extremely grateful!!

melvbot · 11-09-2008, 07:21 PM

http://http://www.opensubtitles.org/en

That has some Thai ones.

ChiangMai noon · 11-09-2008, 07:24 PM

thanks to both.

on a similar note.

i just burned sex and the city movie for Doris, that's why I wanted to find some thai subtitles in the first place. Even though the audio works fine on the pc, there is no audio when I burn it to dvd.
this is not the first time it's happened.

anybody got any idea what's up with that?

Frankenstein · 11-09-2008, 10:10 PM

The simple answer is your DVD player doesn't support the audio format used in the files you've burned.

You can always convert to a supported format though - converting to mp3 should be failsafe. It isn't rocket science to do either.

I usually use MediaCoder for both video and audio conversion (just Google MediaCoder download) - not sure if it is available for Linux, but if not, I am sure there are other options.

Anyone who is often downloading stuff should download Avinaptic and MediaInfo, both are freeware programs (just google Avinaptic download / MediaInfo download).

Any media file that gives you grief, run it through one of these programs, save the log and copy/paste it here, I can interpret it for you if you find it daunting - but it really is only a matter of finding where the audio codec is stated in the list of information, and realize that in the future you need to convert files with that audio format.

kingwilly · 11-09-2008, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

i just burned sex and the city movie

ChiangMai noon · 11-09-2008, 10:22 PM

^
thanks.

i have got some sort of sound converting package in ubuntu and am going to try to use mediacoder through wine.

ChiangMai noon · 11-09-2008, 10:23 PM

^^
selective quoting willy.

kingwilly · 11-09-2008, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

selective quoting willy.

not at all,

did you or did or not burn a copy of a chick flick?

ChiangMai noon · 11-09-2008, 10:58 PM

^
I did.

I also just burned the final of Canadian Idol and episodes 7-13 of Aussie Idol.

btw Frankenstein.
mediacoder is installed and operational but I don't really understand how I convert my file to mp3.
I can't find the convert options in the menu anywhere.

Frankenstein · 12-09-2008, 01:08 AM

1. Browse to and open the media file.

There are two panes at the lower end of the MediaCoder window. Each pane has a number of tabs you can switch between. The left hand pane is for general settings, the right hand pane is for specific codec settings.

Since the video part of your flick already works there is no reason to convert that. To not convert the video, click on the Video tab in the left hand pane. Tick the box next to 'Copy video'. Most other options on the tab will now grey out, except Container. Keep the same container as in the original file (presumably AVI).

2. Click on the 'Audio' tab in the left hand pane. As encoder, pick LAME MP3 (I hope you have access to it in Linux - if not I guess you will be told so and will have to pick another option... only if so, I wouldn't know which one

). For Resample, choose Original. Channel: Stereo. Audio ID: 1. Gain: 0dB.

Make sure Copy Audio, External File and Normalize are not ticked.

3. On the right hand pane, click on the tab LAME MP3. Preset: Custom. Rate Mode: CBR. Channel: Auto. Bitrate: 128 Kbps (this is usually enough, but a little on the low side for clear dialogues). If the original audio bitrate is higher, choose the higher value.

4. Click on the tab 'Picture' on the left hand pane. Make sure that you set the frame rate for the video to the same value as the original. This is important because if you have a 23.976 frames per second frame rate, and the program sets a 25 fps frame rate for the re-encoded file, you will see the video stuttering, especially noticeable on panoramic shots. Also, subs and audio may go out of synch if the wrong frame rate is set.

That should be it as far as the media settings are concerned...

5. Browse to your desired Output Folder where you want to save the re-encoded file (at the top of the MediaCoder window) by pressing the ... button.

5. Press the 'Start' button. Wait.

6. When finished, use MediaInfo or Avinaptic to compare the audio and video settings of the re-encoded file with the original file. If everything goes as planned, your audio stream will now be converted to a constant bitrate mp3 which your DVD player supports.

ChiangMai noon · 12-09-2008, 01:18 AM

thanks for taking the time.

i was pissing around with it earlier, it's an AC3 audio file that needs to be converted.

I selected audio only and ended up with the same video file in the same format and a seperate audio MP3 file.

no worries re Lame Mp3 in ubuntu.

will give it another bash in the morning and let you know how it went.

thanks a million.

Wallalai · 12-09-2008, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

thanks to both.

on a similar note.

i just burned sex and the city movie for Doris, that's why I wanted to find some thai subtitles in the first place. Even though the audio works fine on the pc, there is no audio when I burn it to dvd.
this is not the first time it's happened.

anybody got any idea what's up with that?

Have you tried ManDVD ? Ubuntu Software Search

ChiangMai noon · 12-09-2008, 03:27 PM

Thanks for the instructional frankie.

it worked, cd all burned and abled.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallalai

Have you tried ManDVD ? Ubuntu Software Search

i haven't but I will, looks interesting.

11-09-2008, 12:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon ysbryd y nos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 26,489	Thai subtitle torrents Where can I download Thai subtitles for my torrents? Also, how do I hard encode them into a dvd for burning?

11-09-2008, 01:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
durianfan Cynical Member Last Online: Today 04:04 AM Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ratchada Posts: 1,410	CMN, I spent hours and hours trying to do exactly what you're trying to do. There is a sticky on ajarn about it: Subtitles! - Ajarn Forum - Living and Teaching In Thailand There is a site for Thai subtitles: :: ThaiSubtitle.com :: ÈÙ¹ÂìÃÇÁ«ÑºäµàµÔÅÊÓËÃÑº¤¹ä·Â, Translate Movie Subtitles English into Thai You can only download the subtitles that are 100%. I tried to do this for Lost Season 4, because the g/f wanted to watch it. I followed the instructions written in the sticky, but couldn't make it work. I even downloaded several different media players. The basic problem is that none of the players recognized the Thai text. You need to download the font as well, but mine kept coming up in some gibberish. After about 2 weeks of trying, I finally gave up. If you get it to work somehow, let me know and I'll green you for life. __________________ "Fuck off. And take your stupid cult with you." -Scarlett Johansson to Tom Cruise

11-09-2008, 05:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Frankenstein Elite Member Last Online: Today 12:48 AM Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The land of milking honeys Posts: 2,752	To get working Thai subs, go for VOBSUB (which comes as a pair of files, one .sub file and one .idx file). NOT to be confused with micro-DVD subs, which is a text based format that also has the file ending .sub, but are standalone subtitles. If you get text based subtitles your operating system needs to support Thai, and arranging that can be a bitch. VOBSUB subtitles are bitmap-based subtitles and are compatible with most decent software media players, such as VLC, as well as some of the better standalone DVD players. Among media boxes, DvicO's TviX players is one of the few offering support for VOBSUB subtitles, whereas the NMT platform has yet to add support in their firmware; it is in the pipeline though. The downside with VOBSUB subtitles is that due to their graphics-based format, they take up a lot more space than text-based formats. This in turn means that burning one DVDrip to one CD will generally not be possible, since DVDrips in AVI format typically are sized to fit exactly on a CD (695-700MB) and a VOBSUB subtitle set is typically several MBs, so they won't fit together. The solution is to watch from your computer's hard disk, save to an external hard disk, or to DVDs as data files. For this reason it is worth investing a few thousand baht in a DVD player that will play your XviD and DivX AVI files from a DVD disc. __________________ Freedom of speech is ultra important so stupid people will make their stupid statements so we know how stupid they are. - Ted Nugent

11-09-2008, 07:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon ysbryd y nos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 26,489	thanks to both. on a similar note. i just burned sex and the city movie for Doris, that's why I wanted to find some thai subtitles in the first place. Even though the audio works fine on the pc, there is no audio when I burn it to dvd. this is not the first time it's happened. anybody got any idea what's up with that? __________________ I often feel that the whole forum is close to bursting with homoerotic frisson. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

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11-09-2008, 01:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon ysbryd y nos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 26,489	^ thanks durianfan. guess it means looking at ajarn again quick copy and paste to here I think.

11-09-2008, 07:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
durianfan Cynical Member Last Online: Today 04:04 AM Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ratchada Posts: 1,410	^As do I - it's how I watch all of my torrents. The only site that I've seen Thai subs for download is the one I mentioned a few posts above. I have no idea if they are good Thai subs or just some moron inputting Thai subs from a Thai-English dictionary like they have on the brand new movies you can buy here. I think I did download that VOBSUB program. It mentions exactly what to do in the ajarn sticky. I could do everything except for one thing: change the font on my media player. I tried GOM, VLC, BSPlayer, etc. You can't change the font of the subtitles in any of them, and the Thai script has a specific font you need to use in order for it to show up (I forget what it is now). Once you have this font, you should be able to just change it in the media player files, but I could never make it work. I can encode English subs just fine, but not Thai. Surely there's a way to do it, and if anyone can successfully change the font in their media player, let me know --- I would be extremely grateful!!

11-09-2008, 07:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
melvbot Metal Member Last Online: Today 12:04 AM Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: To Be Confirmed Posts: 3,224	http://http://www.opensubtitles.org/en That has some Thai ones.

11-09-2008, 10:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
Frankenstein Elite Member Last Online: Today 12:48 AM Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The land of milking honeys Posts: 2,752	The simple answer is your DVD player doesn't support the audio format used in the files you've burned. You can always convert to a supported format though - converting to mp3 should be failsafe. It isn't rocket science to do either. I usually use MediaCoder for both video and audio conversion (just Google MediaCoder download) - not sure if it is available for Linux, but if not, I am sure there are other options. Anyone who is often downloading stuff should download Avinaptic and MediaInfo, both are freeware programs (just google Avinaptic download / MediaInfo download). Any media file that gives you grief, run it through one of these programs, save the log and copy/paste it here, I can interpret it for you if you find it daunting - but it really is only a matter of finding where the audio codec is stated in the list of information, and realize that in the future you need to convert files with that audio format.

11-09-2008, 10:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon ysbryd y nos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 26,489	^ thanks. i have got some sort of sound converting package in ubuntu and am going to try to use mediacoder through wine.

11-09-2008, 10:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon ysbryd y nos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 26,489	^^ selective quoting willy.

11-09-2008, 10:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon ysbryd y nos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 26,489	^ I did. I also just burned the final of Canadian Idol and episodes 7-13 of Aussie Idol. btw Frankenstein. mediacoder is installed and operational but I don't really understand how I convert my file to mp3. I can't find the convert options in the menu anywhere.

12-09-2008, 01:08 AM	#15 (permalink)
Frankenstein Elite Member Last Online: Today 12:48 AM Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The land of milking honeys Posts: 2,752	1. Browse to and open the media file. There are two panes at the lower end of the MediaCoder window. Each pane has a number of tabs you can switch between. The left hand pane is for general settings, the right hand pane is for specific codec settings. Since the video part of your flick already works there is no reason to convert that. To not convert the video, click on the Video tab in the left hand pane. Tick the box next to 'Copy video'. Most other options on the tab will now grey out, except Container. Keep the same container as in the original file (presumably AVI). 2. Click on the 'Audio' tab in the left hand pane. As encoder, pick LAME MP3 (I hope you have access to it in Linux - if not I guess you will be told so and will have to pick another option... only if so, I wouldn't know which one ). For Resample, choose Original. Channel: Stereo. Audio ID: 1. Gain: 0dB. Make sure Copy Audio, External File and Normalize are not ticked. 3. On the right hand pane, click on the tab LAME MP3. Preset: Custom. Rate Mode: CBR. Channel: Auto. Bitrate: 128 Kbps (this is usually enough, but a little on the low side for clear dialogues). If the original audio bitrate is higher, choose the higher value. 4. Click on the tab 'Picture' on the left hand pane. Make sure that you set the frame rate for the video to the same value as the original. This is important because if you have a 23.976 frames per second frame rate, and the program sets a 25 fps frame rate for the re-encoded file, you will see the video stuttering, especially noticeable on panoramic shots. Also, subs and audio may go out of synch if the wrong frame rate is set. That should be it as far as the media settings are concerned... 5. Browse to your desired Output Folder where you want to save the re-encoded file (at the top of the MediaCoder window) by pressing the ... button. 5. Press the 'Start' button. Wait. 6. When finished, use MediaInfo or Avinaptic to compare the audio and video settings of the re-encoded file with the original file. If everything goes as planned, your audio stream will now be converted to a constant bitrate mp3 which your DVD player supports.

12-09-2008, 01:18 AM	#16 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon ysbryd y nos Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 26,489	thanks for taking the time. i was pissing around with it earlier, it's an AC3 audio file that needs to be converted. I selected audio only and ended up with the same video file in the same format and a seperate audio MP3 file. no worries re Lame Mp3 in ubuntu. will give it another bash in the morning and let you know how it went. thanks a million.

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