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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    the next series will focus on dion dublin and his partner?
    Matty and Woody make a great team though....can't see them being pushed to the edges.

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    ^^Yes, it's great that we'll be seeing a new 'True Detective(s)'. Will also be interesting to see whether the setting is changed. We've had macabre Louisiana noir with all these excellent sweeping aerial shots, cinematic landscape scenes, and brilliant 6 minute tracking shots in and out of southern black ghetto housing projects. Could be something radically different for the next season. Wouldn't necessarily have to be of the same era either. The first season jumped around in the narrative, but it was all fixed in the now and told through flashback. Refreshing to be looking forward to a new season of an existing show with almost fuck all idea of what it's going to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofrey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    the next series will focus on dion dublin and his partner?
    Matty and Woody make a great team though....can't see them being pushed to the edges.
    Nah, no chance. All indications including something I've read about MM saying he won't be in a second season indicate that it'll be a fresh main cast and that would be the way to go. Their story, at least for the time being, is done. It would be a waste of some very well told character arcs to throw them into the fray again. It would fuck the ending of this first season as well.

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    ^ Agree.

    It also explains how HBO managed to get two major movie stars involved.

    They're also executive producers, so presumably they make money for nothing for the subsequent series.

    Also there can be few areas of life in the southern US more chock full of nutters than the churches, and I'd have thought the writers will be looking to avoid repetition so will need to look elsewhere for their baddies.

    So I think that this first series will be very much a high achievement mark for the entire franchise, which looks to me what it's going to be.

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    I thought the ending was satisfying enough personally. The middle finger salute was the only part that was a bit too 'buddy'. The bad guys generally still get caught in film noir.

    The 'fundamentally flawed guys who still get the really bad guys' is very much a traditional noir trope.

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    **** SPOILER ALERT ****

    DON'T READ THIS:

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    The problem was that the bad guy was not believable - t'was stupid... No way that the bigwigs would have covered up for this loser over many years...

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    **** SPOILER ALERT ****

    But surely it was covered up because Tuttle was involved in the ritualistic group sex crimes?

    That's where Rust got the video tape - from Tuttle's home. Hence the cover up, not because of anything to do with the influence (or lack of) held by the gardener.

    It suited Tuttle to have someone around to off the victims...

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    Double Post

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    **** SPOILER ALERT ****

    But the guy was a retard and a fukin liability, Tuttle's lot would have killed him decades before... It just does not add up at all. In fact, it was stupid.

    The way he was put into a couple of episodes was also pathetic, I knew it was him many episodes ago (from the first time we say him, and how Rust was taken away from speaking to him - not very subtle..., so I was very disappointed when such a stupid ending turned up...
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    The way he was put into a couple of episodes was also pathetic,
    it fits in with the underlying detective philosophy "the answer is right in front of you"

    to plop some unknown character into the final episode would be a total calamity.

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    I haven't watched the final episode yet, so I've tried to skip all the spoiler alerts..lol. Thanks for the warnings!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofrey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    The way he was put into a couple of episodes was also pathetic,
    it fits in with the underlying detective philosophy "the answer is right in front of you"

    to plop some unknown character into the final episode would be a total calamity.
    I agree with that, but the way it was done was just sooo obvious, it was clear from that second what was what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    the way it was done was just sooo obvious, it was clear from that second what was what.
    i don't think so.

    how would you have liked them to change it?

    would have introducing a totally new character at the very end improved the storyline?

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    ***SPOILER ALERT, DO NOT READ***

    Remember the way he was first introduced while cutting the grass, Rust went over to speak to him, and their conversation was cut short by the guy in the car shouting out to Rust - it was just so obvious from that second on (I said to myself out loud; there we go, that's the ending...). Badly done... Characters can be integrated/introduced in different ways, that one was done very badly.

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    I don't get it.

    Just because you guessed the baddie doesn't make it a bad ending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofrey
    it fits in with the underlying detective philosophy "the answer is right in front of you"
    Exactly - repeated by Marty many times.

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    Bettyboo, Cyril, I'm not reading your posts!

    Just downloaded season 1 and will start watching tonight. I've not heard of the program until this tread, but it sounds pretty good by the way you all are going on about it.

    Woody Harrelson has to be one of my least favorite actors. He always seems like an ax murderer to me, no matter what role he plays.

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    It takes a couple of episodes to get into it, but is very good!!

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    I suggest downloading the subtitles.

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    ***SPOILER ALERT - DO NOT READ***

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    I don't get it.

    Just because you guessed the baddie doesn't make it a bad ending.
    ***SPOILER ALERT - DO NOT READ***

    It was a bad ending because it was: 1) ridiculously contrived; 2) just not possible within the context of the rest of the story.

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    I don't see how it was either of those things.

    You suggested it was predictable before.

    How on earth can it be 'just not possible', 'ridiculously contrived' and at the same time predictable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
    contrived
    how so?

    it was splendidly nonlinear in many ways....the various switches back and forth in the timeline....the lack of pandering to the usual digestive pattern of modern tv.

    Matty was on the green monster and Woody was on the paint. different characters who combined to complement each other.

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    Just finished episode 4 and it has taken off big time. I'm into it.

    Still hate Woody, though.

    How many episodes in season 1?

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    Thanks. I have them all downloaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo
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    doesn't td have spoiler code?


    *bemused*

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