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    Interesting new film on Thai politics

    May be interesting to people who live in Bangkok - a new film on Thai politics called Paradoxocracy is showing at Paragon and Esplanade Ratchadapisek from 24th June to 3rd July.


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    For the vanishingly small number of people left on this forum who might be interested, the whole film is now on youtube.


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    Not that I'm a cynical sort, or that the documentary isn't worthy....
    But, if this film has just an inkling of being offensive or threatening, it would not be allowed to be shown in public venues.

    The Thai authorities have a long [and recent] of banning/censoring film, literature, art, etc from the masses.

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    ^ What an utterly pointless man you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zooheekock View Post
    ^ What an utterly pointless man you are.
    But he's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
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    ^ What an utterly pointless man you are.
    But he's right.
    Thats not the point.

    The point is that gooeysock occupies the moral high ground and reads lots of books so he must be right.

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    Nonetheless, not attempting to pull the OP and thread down.
    Just pointing out the realities of Thai society and it's deeper relationship with the Thai authoritarian establishment.

    It's an interesting and insightful documentary.
    On the same YOUTUBE page, there is a related video of edited material from this film!

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
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    ^ What an utterly pointless man you are.
    But he's right.
    Thats not the point.

    The point is that gooeysock occupies the moral high ground and reads lots of books so he must be right.

    It IS the point. He merely commented that anything to close to the knuckle would be pulled, or legal proceedings would be launched.

    Which is true.

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    What do you mean? That there's no worthwhile discussion of Thai politics anywhere? That's obviously rubbish. The fact that references to the royal family are, at best, oblique (and are in the English-language media non-existent) doesn't mean that there is no valuable or interesting discussion anywhere about Thai history or politics.
    Last edited by Zooheekock; 29-11-2013 at 10:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zooheekock View Post
    What do you mean? That there's no worthwhile discussion of Thai politics anywhere? That's obviously rubbish. The fact that references to the royal family are, at best, oblique (and are in the English-language media non-existent) doesn't mean that there is no valuable or interesting discussion anywhere about Thai history or politics.
    My instinctive impression was not a reference to the Royals or any critique thereof.

    Laregely, the film questions govt/authorities, which today is considered close to the bone regarding the taboo subject. They seem to see all as one and the same.

    That's why any type of intercourse throughout the scholarly realms, media, literary circles, and everyday common debate regarding "The Establishment" is quickly associated with that institution - even if such has nothing to do with anything.

    The subject matter has historically been used for protection and a crutch.

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    People in politically repressive societies, with the exception of very extreme examples such as the USSR under Stalinism, generally get good at talking around taboo subjects in ways that allow political discussion to have meaning. Thailand has certain North Korea-like attributes but it isn't exactly North Korea. As far as I can tell the Thai language lends itself rather well to indirect speech and polite circumlocution, such that it wouldn't be surprising were a statement that sounds senseless in English translation fully comprehensible in the original while still not useful in damning the speaker. I'd watch the film if it had subs, although without good Thai language skills I'm sure I'd miss a lot.

    And of course, we have meaningful discussions of Thai politics on TD without directly referencing the thing, amirite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    I'd watch the film if it had subs,
    Click on the CC button and you'll get them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    any type of intercourse throughout the scholarly realms, media, literary circles, and everyday common debate regarding "The Establishment" is quickly associated with that institution - even if such has nothing to do with anything.
    That's just not true.

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    Mozilla has a downloader add on for youtube. I used it to download this vid. Some might find it useful if they don't want to stay online to watch it. It's quite fast.

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...ideo-download/

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    The full film at the link has been pulled. Typical Thailand.

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