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    So, I'm thinking of becoming a vegetarian

    Not through my own choice, more because I think it is becoming a necessity. Once again my stomach is in revolt about some apparently rancid meat purchased from the supermarket. Literally sick of this shit. Unless the meat is in a tin I think it's going to be off the menu. Now, I can't live on tuna and corned beef alone...so...

    Anyone experienced with a vegetarian diet here?Biggest concern would be getting enough protein- I don't think looking even weeder than I am would be a great look.

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    find a south Indian restaurant and enjoy. The only way I could go vegetarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy
    Biggest concern would be getting enough protein
    you can get all the protein your body needs from nuts, eggs and dairy products. if you cook at home and want something besides vegetables in your dishes, you can buy dehydrated soya and tofu at tesco.

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    He's in Myanmar, so...not sure what useful advice can be gleaned really.

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    i'm confident they sell tofu and dehydrated soy products in myanmar.

    but my point is that a diet which focuses on nuts, eggs and dairy provides enough protein for what the body needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    He's in Myanmar, so...not sure what useful advice can be gleaned really.
    Surprisingly easier than in Thailand- they're are many Indians here so AO has made a very good point. Gotta learn to cook it myself at some stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    you can get all the protein your body needs from nuts, eggs and dairy products. if you cook at home and want something besides vegetables in your dishes, you can buy dehydrated soya and tofu at tesco.
    ^ Good points, Ray.

    I wouldn't worry about lack of protein - as we all tend to eat way too much protein than we need anyway.. too much protein is bad for your kidneys.. the myth that vegetarians will become protein deficient, is just that... a myth...

    "Eating a varied, plant-based diet can also meet all of your protein needs. One cup of dry beans, for example, contains about 16 grams of protein per serving, while a cup of brown rice contains 5 grams. Together these foods form a complete protein and also provide a healthy dose of fiber — which helps lower cholesterol, promotes regular bowel movements, regulates our blood sugar and helps us feel full. Plant-based proteins also don’t have any saturated fat, and are usually lower in calories".

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    Ray and Dick are right, Mandaloopy.

    I have been vegetarian for 41 years now (currently 62 years old) and although I am thinnish, it is far better than being fat. Just do some exercise to build up your muscles a bit.
    This whole obsession with protein is silly. Sometimes I make sure I get enough, and sometimes I don't bother.

    You could always eat an egg every day if you think you're going to die without meat.
    Screw eating that awful rotten flesh you find in Asian restaurants. Many people who would not otherwise be vegetarian become so in Asia/India.
    Meat starts to rot within hours of it being killed, and it's high up the food chain. Think about all those hormones and chemicals....

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    Since you say you're going vegetarian, not vegan, you will still presumably be eating eggs and drinking milk so that and beans will give you plenty of protein. It's really not an issue unless you're a competition body builder but if you felt really compelled, you could always buy protein power (soy and pea is available, if you wanted a vegan option).

    It's definitely more effort not eating meat but if you have a kitchen, you should be fine. A good cookbook to get started with is, if you can get Amazon deliveries, Madhur Jaffrey's Eastern Vegetarian Cooking, though the spicing is pretty conservative and needs beefing up.
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    Thanks for all the input! Actually off to BKK soon so will be picking up a few recipe books from that fancy book shop in Paragon.

    Yup, will still be eating eggs and dairy- don't think I could ever say farewell to cheese.

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    Watched a YouTube video by an American doctor who was lecturing on how to " Cure arthritis naturally "
    He says it all down to diet, getting the blood flowing without toxins in it and you are healthy again. Achieving this by a fruit n veg diet.

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    I think the myth of vegetarians being hippy, dope smokers is fading. You can find loads of books, u-tube vids etc. on cooking delicious meals without meat.

    Myself, I hardly ever eat red meat. Too expensive. But eat lots of fish, and a bit of chicken. Also dairy stuff. Love cheese.

    And I love veggies - very versatile, easy to cook, always something in Season and good for you. Even canned green beans can be poshed up with butter and garlic.

    You'll see, within a few weeks you won't miss meat. And you can always sneak in McDonalds occasionally!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by patsycat View Post
    You'll see, within a few weeks you won't miss meat. And you can always sneak in McDonalds occasionally!!
    Presumably when you...err...miss meat?

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    Hokum. You should try eating a vegetarian. Real stinky.

    They are all attention whores."Look at me, I'm a vegetable"

    Latin dancer is a prime example of the side effects of being a vegetable.

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    ^ Thanks for letting us know you are a multi-nic.

    Who were you previously ??

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    So, I'm thinking of becoming a vegetarian
    Maybe a plus

    Afterward, women in the study were asked to sniff the sweat. (Note: The methodology was much more scientific and precise than my breezy explanation, but you get the picture.) "We asked the women to rate how much they liked it, how floral, how fruity," and a bunch of other descriptors, explains Stephen.

    It's a small study, but the results were pretty consistent. "Women basically found that men who ate more vegetables smelled nicer," Stephen told us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth
    "Women basically found that men who ate more vegetables smelled nicer," Stephen told us.
    Just make sure to avoid the asparagus...

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    Not to mention the sator.

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    It's all the rage now... everyone wants to look (and feel) like a skinny androgenous waif... it's certainly cheaper to stick to raw veg, and won't do you much harm, as long as you fill your scraggly gullet with a healthy portion of nuts. I guess the hygiene standards for fish and meat are a bit hit and miss over there, if you haven't got access to a decent kitchen, refrigeration, and reliable source of food that you know isn't full of nasties of either the biological or chemical kind.
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    Some of us haven't chosen the skinny waif like look. The wonderful lord god struck us down with a horrible illness!!

    I was an almost veggie before i got the big C. In fact the best steak in a good restaurant actually gave me no pleasure. Stews i love. But can do very well with a well balanced diet without red meat. And you will find that restaurants are really cottoning on to it!! Selling "veggie options" for silly prices is a no go area.

    For me it is a choice, i do eat red meat with lots of lip licking and pleasure. But it is just too expensive, here in Swissland, to get a good bit of meat at an affordable price. It used to be like that with salmon filets or tuna steaks, special occasions!!

    Now, those i don't even look at the price of those. Especially the salmon.

    The OP is only giving it up because of the bad quality and hygiene. No doubt he'll eat meat where and when he feels good about it, it must be horrible to buy expensive meat and get sick!!

    Ratatouille takes minutes to make!! Goes with everything and good for you.

    It's stupid to say that people who don't eat red meat every day are skinny little waifs!! For me, the ones that should be attacked are the ones that go on and on about killing cows and sheep and lambs and chickies because of their suffering and would you eat a hamster brigade. Those are the radical veggies, that even say that pulling a carrott out of the ground hurts it and it's feelings. Come on...?!!

    Everyone has a choice on what they eat, as long as it's healthy and you get the nutrients you need. McDo's was a bad example, i would like to change that to Burger King!!

    Don't get me started on Vegans or the homeopathetic brigade!! My chemist got me one day on that, shouting about the amount of drugs i was taking.....!! I almost hit her!! She still managed to sell me a veggie body lotion that costs as much as my weekly wine rations!! Gullible me!! Straight into the "special occasion" box!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth
    "Women basically found that men who ate more vegetables smelled nicer," Stephen told us.
    Just make sure to avoid the asparagus...
    Awful!

    And another to add to the list, boiled cabbage.

    My mother used to prepare it and tell me I couldnít go back outside and continue playing until the plate was clean. Needless to say I never made back out on the occasions she cooked it. The house would reek for an entire evening from that cabbage.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Not to mention the sator.
    Last Sunday evening, out to dinner with whatshername and her order, Pad Sam Men/ผัดสามเหม็น

    (English, Stir-fried 3 smelly)/Glass noodles stir-fried with southern wild beans, climbing wattle, garlic, shrimp paste


    The three smelly ingredients, Sator (aka stink bean)/Cha-om (aka Senegalia pennata)/Kratiem Dong (aka pickled garlic)

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    Interesting. I love Gaeng Som Cha-om and Sator fried with prawns, but didn't know the ingredients were sometimes featured with 'wun sen'.

    How was it?

    I kind of feel I prefer such strong tasting ingredients with rice.

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    ^I didnít taste any that was offered to me, but I was being teased about the odor when the offers were made.

    She did enjoy her meal.

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    I'm not a vegetarian but I eat some vegetarian meals.

    A bean/sweet potato chili for one which is really yum.

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    You can't exactly avoid it in Chiang Mai....it has the highest concentration of vego restaurants of any Thai city.

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