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    Microwaving?

    Used a microwave for yonks, like most of us have. This popped up on my facebook today though which does get me thinking a little;



    Here is a Science fair project presented by a girl in a secondary school in Sussex. In it she took filtered water and divided it into two parts. The first part she heated to boiling in a pan on the stove, and the second part she heated to boiling in a microwave. Then after cooling she used the water to water two identical plants to see if there would be any difference in the growth between the normal boiled water and the water boiled in a microwave.

    She was thinking that the structure or energy of the water may be compromised by microwave. As it turned out, even she was amazed at the difference, after the experiment which was repeated by her class mates a number of times and had the same result.

    It has been known for some years that the problem with microwaved anything is not the radiation people used to worry about, it's how it corrupts the DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it.

    Microwaves don't work different ways on different substances. Whatever you put into the microwave suffers the same destructive process. Microwaves agitate the molecules to move faster and faster. This movement causes friction which denatures the original make-up of the substance. It results in destroyed vitamins, minerals, proteins and generates the new stuff called radiolytic compounds, things that are not found in nature.

    So the body wraps it in fat cells to protect itself from the dead food or it eliminates it fast. Think of all the Mothers heating up milk in these 'Safe' appliances. What about the nurse in Canada that warmed up blood for a transfusion patient and accidentally killed him when the blood went in dead.

    But the makers say it's safe. But proof is in the pictures of living plants dying.
    I put this in Kitchen because it is, well, about how we cook things. It is strange though because never crossed my mind that microwaving is not exactly safe.
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    >>NO, YOU PIG-IGNORANT ASSWIPES.
    >>SOME KID???S CLASS PROJECT IS NOT REAL SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH. YOU???VE HEARD OF ???DOUBLE BLIND???, RIGHT? CALL ME WHEN IT???S PUBLISHED IN NATURE.
    “the structure or energy of the water”
    >>what the fuck does that even mean you realize that a water molecule is made up of three fucking atoms and if you rearrange it it isn???t water anymore and you would fucking notice
    “the problem with microwaved anything is not the radiation people used to worry about”
    >>Microwaves??dont = nuclear reactors, so calm your tits.
    “it???s how it corrupts the DNA in the food so the body can not recognize it”
    >>???do you understand what DNA is and how eating works? DNA is a jumble of protein in the middle of each cell and it tells the cells in that particular organism how to make more cells. Your body does not care about whether your food has any DNA in it or not. The chemicals it cares about are things like vitamins and sugars, as well as inorganic shit like salt.
    >>(You can denature DNA by heating it or using chemicals like urea. It is like what happens when you fry an egg, which is basically a big glob of protein???the strands break apart and it looks like tiny white strings. Very cool.)
    “Microwaves agitate the molecules to move faster and faster.”
    >>I???just???that is the fucking definition of heat, whether you???re heating something over a flame or in a microwave or using the Sun. The difference is that microwaves mostly affect the water molecules in your food and they don???t need to use as much heat. Water boils at 100??C, which is just about as hot as water can get before it just turns into steam; but that???s like the lowest setting on your oven. Oven- or stove-cooked food tastes different partly because it uses higher temperatures and partly because heat is transferred in a different way.
    “This movement causes friction”
    >>That???s not what friction is.
    “It results in destroyed vitamins, minerals, proteins and generates the new stuff called radiolytic compounds, things that are not found in nature.”
    >>Let???s take these one at a time.
    >>Vitamins are classified as water-soluble or fat-soluble. So cooking things in water will dissolve the water-soluble vitamins (C and all the B???s). Just plain heat doesn???t do that, so microwaving veggies???which keeps the water in???is actually a healthier option.
    Proteins: Breaking the chemical bonds in proteins (denaturing) is a part of any cooking. However, denatured protein is still nutritious???that???s why you can meet your protein intake with foods like fried eggs and baked chicken.
    >>Minerals are just chemical elements, like off the periodic table???sodium, iron, potassium. (Vitamins and proteins are very complex combinations of elements.)
    Which brings me to the ???radiolytic compound??? bullshit. When you talk about breaking apart, say, iron???you???re talking about breaking down the iron atoms themselves. Which is a whole lot different than breaking the bonds between atoms. It takes hella radiation. You need shit like gamma rays???the OOOH SCARY NUCULAR radiation???which we???ve already established do not come from your microwave.
    >>things that are not found in nature
    What the shit does that even mean? You all know radioactive elements occur in nature, right? In rocks and also in living cells. That???s right, you have this radioactive kind of carbon INSIDE YOU. You get it by eating those delicious plants. We can tell how long ago something died by how much of it is left.
    >>Tons of shit that occurs naturally is horribly bad for you. And tons of shit that never existed until we cooked it up is great for you???like the chemical compounds in a lot of medications.
    >>PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THIS SHIT ARE WHY CHILDHOOD DISEASES THAT CAUSED SERIOUS ILLNESSES AND/OR DEATH THAT WE NEARLY ERADICATED WITH VACCINES ARE NOW COMING BACK AND WHY CONSPIRACY THEORIST TWATS ARE ASKING CITY COUNCIL NOT TO FLUORIDATE THE WATER AND WHY GLOBAL WARMING WILL WRECK OUR FUCKING PLANET.
    LERN 2 SCIENCE.

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    I still use my microwave to heat up a cup of coffee and it hasn't killed me yet.

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    Do you apply any sort of critical thought on these posts before you hit the post button?

    snopes.com: Microwaved Water - See What It Does to Plants

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    Snopes. lol

    You're funny

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    Not as funny as a 12 year old girl with two plants being called science.
    Lots of studies, look em up.

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    Nah, you had me at Snopes

    Too funny

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    ^you can't cut through ignorance like that. It's baked in.

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    My Mrs. wont use one so we didn't have one over here until a friend gave me his when he went home.

    It's been used about twice. In the UK I was always using one, mainly to defrost meat and so on, I guess I just don't have the need here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Nah, you had me at Snopes

    Too funny

    Try baby steps.

    What do Microwaves do to Water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    you can't cut through ignorance like that. It's baked in.
    dude - seriously?

    https://www.google.co.th/search?q=mi...w=1366&bih=667

    I think I even did one of these myself about three years ago in my office. I just wanted to see how long it would take for snopes to be quoted

    Snopes. Love it


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    Nobody want's to know or think that the things they use everyday in life are bad for them or dangerous it's just human nature. Ignorance is bliss. Microwaves, corn syrup, flouride, GMO's, plastics, bottled water, prescription drugs, the list goes on and on and on. There is no escape.
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    Snopes did a proper blind trial, it's perfectly adequate to refut the assertions of a primary schooler.
    You don't get proper,scientists debunking the assertions of 12 year olds, and this is the problem with most of your tin foil crap.
    Why don't they do it? Because they understand science and 12 year olds (and you) don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beazalbob69
    Nobody want's to know or think that the things they use everyday in life are bad for them or dangerous it's just human nature. Ignorance is bliss. Microwaves, corn syrup, flouride, GMO's, plastics, bottled water, prescription drugs, the list goes on and on and on. There is no escape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    Snopes did a proper


    Snopes


    Seriously stop it, my sides are splitting.


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    I think you are in more danger from a microwave falling on your head than being harmed by eating food prepared in one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    I think you are in more danger from a microwave falling on your head than being harmed by eating food prepared in one.
    It's OK humbert - my microwave is on the granite kitchen counter well away from the edge. I'll be OK but thanks for your concern.

    I only actually use it to heat up a drop of milk prior to dropping my coffee in it- lazy to use the frother on the machine. But I stopped that recently, and the slight discomfort i got that I attributed to lactose intolerance, in the morning, stopped at the same time.

    I'll go and put my tin hat on now to save you the time mentioning it.

    Hugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    But I stopped that recently, and the slight discomfort i got that I attributed to lactose intolerance, in the morning, stopped at the same time.
    Totally unscientific pseudolus just like those damn school kids that wouldn't know how to do an experiment that difficult ever! What we need is a double blind experiment funded by the people who have a vested interest in the microwave industry because they have a lot of money to use in finding the smartest and most unbiased scientists around.

    Pftt, stoopid kids what do they know?

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    That is very true, pal.

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    What nonsense.

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