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jandajoy

Imagine the scenario, if you will.

A 5 year old boy and a nine year old boy.

What would you expect of each?

What would be acceptable from one versus the other.

What would you condemn or allow, from either.

We're talking normal everyday life here.

Any views, comments or experiences gratefully received.

buriramboy

peterpan

depends on the individual, my daughters are 8 & 6, the younger one is near perfect in behavior, she's top of her class, respectful, conscientious and obliging.
The elder one is a good girl but has some minor problems, certainly not as bright, a bit lazy in school work, would rather play with her friends than do home work. Just saying its hard to compare age group behavior, but if any thing my youngest has the more mature personality of the two.

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nidhogg

There is a big developmental difference between those two ages.

Basically the 9 year old will have the beginings of an understanding of "cause and effect" and the ability to be some what logical and rational. The five year old won't really "get" cause and effect.

jandajoy

Indeed. Cognitive age etc.

If the 9 year old prefers the company of other 5 year olds then I wonder how much his development will be hindered.

Marmite the Dog

Not if he's a Thai.

jandajoy

I'm not sure I agree with that. Though I'd be most interested to read your reasoning.

nidhogg

A knee jerk response does not have "reasoning"....

aging one

So what does that say about your step son marmers?

jandajoy

Piaget says;


The Preoperational Period
(2-7 years)
Developmental Stage
& Approximate Age

Characteristic Behavior
Preoperational Phase
(2-4 years)
Increased use of verbal representation but speech is egocentric. The beginnings of symbolic rather than simple motor play. Transductive reasoning. Can think about something without the object being present by use of language.
Intuitive Phase
(4-7 years)
Speech becomes more social, less egocentric. The child has an intuitive grasp of logical concepts in some areas. However, there is still a tendency to focus attention on one aspect of an object while ignoring others. Concepts formed are crude and irreversible. Easy to believe in magical increase, decrease, disappearance. Reality not firm. Perceptions dominate judgment.

In moral-ethical realm, the child is not able to show principles underlying best behavior. Rules of a game not develop, only uses simple do's and don'ts imposed by authority.
Period of Concrete Operations
(7-12 years)
Characteristic Behavior:

Evidence for organized, logical thought. There is the ability to perform multiple classification tasks, order objects in a logical sequence, and comprehend the principle of conservation. thinking becomes less transductive and less egocentric. The child is capable of concrete problem-solving.
Some reversibility now possible (quantities moved can be restored such as in arithmetic:
3+4 = 7 and 7-4 = 3, etc.)

Class logic-finding bases to sort unlike objects into logical groups where previously it was on superficial perceived attribute such as color. Categorical labels such as "number" or animal" now available.


Stages of Intellectual Development In Children and Teenagers (Child Development Institute)

Smug Farang Bore

Sorry I thought this was about Whiskys.

English Noodles

^^^That's obviously where he draws his opinion from.

Certainly not all Thai kids are like that though. A lot is down to parenting and of course genes.

Marmite the Dog

Well, the 3 year old is nearly on par with the 10 year old mentally speaking. Need I say more?

jandajoy

Yes, please.

Why do you reckon that is?

aging one

but they are both thai need I say more?

that makes more sense.

Marmite the Dog

One was bought up Thai-style and one wasn't.

See above.

jojo333

aging one

still Thai, its up to the parents. Of course most Thai's go with the standard shit approach. But some are very good parents. The problem is they are in a distinct minority.

So its not the nationality at all. Its how they are raised.

jandajoy

So what's the difference between the much touted "Thai style" up bringing and a western European upbringing?

Marmite the Dog

Agreed. The Thai way or the right way.

jandajoy

you want to explain what you mean by that?

Rural Surin

Well reasoned, AO. Yet, I feel your words will fall on the usual deaf ears.

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nidhogg

Don't be foolish. Of course he doesn't. MTD is more of a "distainful one liner" than a "reasoned, balanced point of view" poster.