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    Interesting comments:

    I've been to both coasts of Africa many times, but seldom left the confines of civilization to travel outside into the villages. I did have a lot of contact with low level African workers (grunt labor) and their management. Clearly most have very little education other than their work. But they are pretty good at learning what works well by trail and error. So if diddling kids to sleep works well - They would know it and use it.

    On some of my first trips to west Africa.... early trips Africa west coast (mostly Angola) - My contact said forget everything you know about Africa because this place is nothing like East Africa you may know.

    We were looking out on the bay. He pointed to the hundreds of thousands of lights that looked like an extension of the city around a bend, and set up on a hillside. Saying - My friend - those arent lights - they are candles, lanterns, and fires - In daylight you will see its nothing but mud huts. Half a million live there and there isnt a single doctor in this city or that hovel, that could deliver medicine or medical care that you could recognize. He said most residents from there are functionally illiterate with super low intellect. This was 2005...

    Seeing the place in daytime - confirmed the guy was speaking the truth. Spending time there, confirmed for me Africa still holds true to its primitive nature. Nothing would surprise that takes place in the tribal cultures there.

    I don't have access to many local papers here - But i have seen a few news print sections and magazine spreads hawking porn postings with cell phone links I didnt pay it much mind. But based on comments here - It seems pretty easy that anyone with minutes on a phone could get their fill. So I guess explicit knowledge seeps into the culture of the young - despite any parental good ethics practiced.

    Another example of why children need good advice earlier than most would assume would be the requisite age.

    After more thoughts on this, my concern level has waned a little, cause my daughter is pretty sharp for her age group, and seems to take direction well. So it should be reasonable to equip her with guidance on what is inappropriate contact. And how to manage any approaches in that area, from her peers or others.
    Thanks for the commentary, The observations about Africa mesh with my own general experience there. The culture is primitive and education is a rare commodity in rural life there. That experience was pretty eye opening and repeated over and over for the many years returning there intermittently for project work.

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    I was based in Mwanza / Shingyanga - Tanzania for a while.

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    This subject has been brought up before.
    This treatment of babies is not uncommon in Africa.
    Also despite Dug saying it is bullshit, i again say it was common practice in Europe by nannys in Victorian days.
    It is not acceptable but neither is filling up babies with paracetamol based medicines, as we do now in the West to 'help' babies sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bower
    It is not acceptable but neither is filling up babies with paracetamol based medicines, as we do now in the West to 'help' babies sleep.
    When my lad is sick and has a fever, it is perfectly acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bower
    It is not acceptable but neither is filling up babies with paracetamol based medicines, as we do now in the West to 'help' babies sleep.
    When my lad is sick and has a fever, it is perfectly acceptable.
    Did i mention sick or feverish babies ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown View Post
    BTW, I am not saying your Thai family members would do things like this, but who knows who is living around you.
    Well....if you've lived in a village setting long enough, you certainly {should} know whom your neighbors might be. Suspicions fall {and are cast upon} towards what is deemed to be different from your understanding. The norm might not be normal to anyone that still find it "foreign". There isn't such a creature as universal standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bower View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bower
    It is not acceptable but neither is filling up babies with paracetamol based medicines, as we do now in the West to 'help' babies sleep.
    When my lad is sick and has a fever, it is perfectly acceptable.
    Did i mention sick or feverish babies ?
    Did you exclude them?

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    Saw this method of comforting children in Laos 4 years ago.
    When I asked about it, I was told that it was normal, nothing wrong.

    Having taught in young offenders institutions in Western countries, I quickly learned how to field off inappropriate sexual behaviour from the kids. A large percentage had been sexually/physically/emotionally molested at a very early age. Seductive behaviour on their part was simply a learned coping strategy.
    The confusion they suffered directly resulted in aggressive behaviour.

    A lot of women in the sex trade have this dual seductive/violent character.

    So, I now carry a hidden video/audio camera while teaching and have another, small wireless cctv camera high up in the classroom, picked up on a receiver/video player in the school office. This way the class and I are monitored and I have a second recording of anything within 2 metres of me as I teach, as a cross reference just to avoid problems. It works well.

    Whenever I've pointed out that this or that child is being overtly sexual or seductive, thus at risk, the Thai principal just brushes my info to one side, saying that it doesn't matter.
    Strange.

    It's quite normal for children to be curious about genital differences, but to engage in imitative sexual action is as a result of either,
    a) having witnessed same previously, so copy, or,
    b) having been initiated physically in that behaviour.

    Kids don't just dream it up.

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    caught one of the village kids attempting to shag one of our puppys is this also normal rural behavior?

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    No, it isn't.

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    My Mrs. Aunty had a monkey that fucked chickens. Much to the delight of the local kids. SO much so they would catch chickens and throw them to the monkey.

    It was very very funny. Until the monkey bit somebody and spoilt it for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky dog View Post
    caught one of the village kids attempting to shag one of our puppys is this also normal rural behavior?
    Only if they were going to eat it afterwards.

    Which they probably were.

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    Kids learn a lot in the country.

    One day we'd rounded all the sheep up for dipping, and had the rams penned up in a yard while the ewes were being herded past, dogs running around all keen and such and one of them jumped the rails into the ram pen.

    No one noticed until the stupid dog started whining, so my two boys (8 and 9 yrs old)
    went to find out what the fuss was about.

    "Dad, quick, the rams are beating up Graham's dog!", they yelled.

    So a couple of us whizzed over to see what the hell and nearly fell over laughing.

    Gray's dog was trapped in a corner with a close pack of rams muscling in on him, literally.

    One ram had mounted the dog and was rogering him, the rest waiting their turn.
    If I ever saw a dog's eyes pop, it was then.

    Funniest thing we ever saw!

    The kids pestered me for answers about it all for days after.
    They'd seen dog on dog and chook on chook and were awed by what the bull could do to a cow, but ram on dog, well,... and he wasn't even a bitch.

    Had them right puzzled!

    Needless to say, Gray got a local reputation for having a gay ram-lover dog, he never lived it down.

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    haha funny as. Can't beat a bit of animal rape...er....you know what i mean.

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    Life's tough in a small rural town eh?

    All the pretty ones gone to the big smoke, only old dollies and dogs left around.

    Ah well.

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