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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    ^^^^^ & ^ Maybe DD is here posting a full account so that others won't fall into the same trap and allow their emotions to violently run out of control. Can't think of any other reason apart from trying to exorcise some guilt demons and by admitting what he has done to a couple of hundred virtual strangers.
    That or the booze ?

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    Whatever the reason, beating your 14 year old son until your arms hurt then feeling good about it is pretty sad.
    I think you need to take a good look at yourself DD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge
    That or the booze ?

    Correct mate!

    Some people are that embarrassed by their actions that their first reaction is to talk about it with others and DD has certainly shown this trait and thats why I brought it up.

    If he beat the child up when he was pissed he has a real problem and needs to get off the turps before he really hurts someone but I think that was not the case in this instance.

    I hope father and son can reconcile and both learn from this experience.

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    But why did he steal his cousin's mobile? I am sure he would have had his own mobile.

    Is he jealous of his cousin or does he need money to support a habit?

    You ought to find out, why he did it.

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    what would be an acceptable reason for beating up your kids ?

    if your son was caught raping a girl, would that be acceptable to give him a lesson to remember ? wouldn't he deserve it ? how would any father react ?

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    ^^ I suggested that (jealousy and or attention seeking) in my first post on this thread Lily.

    Reading between the lines a bit DD must spend a hell of a lot of time on Teak Door especially in the hours that his boy is sleeping and as a consequence DD would be sleeping while his son is awake.

    Spend more time with the kid DD and you may be pleasantly surprised and the mere fact he admitted the theft I take as a real positive. Most other kids would have denied the theft outright and or got rid of the evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    I suggested that (jealousy and or attention seeking) in my first post on this thread Lily.
    I didn't see that, but I do agree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    Reading between the lines a bit DD must spend a hell of a lot of time on Teak Door especially in the hours that his boy is sleeping and as a consequence DD would be sleeping while his son is awake.
    But the boy is now sixteen years old. I dont know that kids need that much parental attention at that age, or suffer from a reasonable lack of it. He should (and I am sure he is) be making his own life, but maybe not in the right places.

    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    what would be an acceptable reason for beating up your kids ? if your son was caught raping a girl, would that be acceptable to give him a lesson to remember ? wouldn't he deserve it ? how would any father react ?
    No. Rape is about violence and control. It is not within the bounds of sexuality, so violence to punish it would be self defeating.

    If you knew that your son had done that, you would have to bring the wrath of the law against him, not your personal wrath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily
    But the boy is now sixteen years old. I dont know that kids need that much parental attention at that age
    I thought the boy was 14 but nevertheless the boy is still growing and needs his father's guidance or at least attention sometimes.

    I probably suffer from the same misgivings and faults as DD and spend far too much time here on TD and not with my kids and this thread has raised my own personal awareness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post

    Spend more time with the kid DD and you may be pleasantly surprised and the mere fact he admitted the theft I take as a real positive. Most other kids would have denied the theft outright and or got rid of the evidence.
    I am not so sure the kid would want to spend some time with Dad knowing the old bloke could turn violent at any time and bash the shit out of him.

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    Maybe it might be time implement Sharia Law (in the comfort of your own home), by chopping the lad's hand off, next time he purloins something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Maybe it might be time implement Sharia Law (in the comfort of your own home), by chopping the lad's hand off, next time he purloins something?
    Not such a good idea as you are going to run out of hands to lop off after only a couple of times.

    Beatings can go on almost indefinitely while the kid stays at home and is too young to defend himself. There is also the personal gratification aspect of feeling the power of your fists flailing into someone elses flesh without risk of retaliation. Lopping hands may give a quick buzz, but not quite the same satisfaction of punching into a kid until your fists and arms hurt.

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    ^ I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill mate (beatings etc) and from memory it has happened twice in the last year and on each occassion the lad stepped way out of line.

    Not to mention DD admitted it on each occasion and I also see this as a positive.

    I still feel the situation is recoverable if DD attempts to spend less time here and more time with his boy. It is extremely foolish to give advice as nobody outside of the relationship really knows the exact situation but I am a firm believer in communication and unless that can happen the situation can only get worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    It is extremely foolish to give advice as nobody outside of the relationship really knows the exact situation
    True!

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    ^save for the fact that no one solicited his OP he volunteered it and it's from his perspective only which still paints it as rather OTT.. A bit of perspective is that we don't seem to be speaking about a spanking here which I see no problem with, the description is a beating, very distinctive difference IMO.
    Either DD is in very poor condition and tires rather easily or he went way beyond what is acceptable as I have never got even close to tiring myself out on spanking my boys it's one or 2 spanks on the ass or minor finger thump on the noggin and no more is required in 95% of the cases.

    The funny thing is that I can be playing around with them and slap them on the bum or thump them on the head the same way in play and it doesn't even bother them because there is no disappointment or aggression behind it, but do that when they've crossed the line and it's like I just beat them bloody in regards to their reactions..

    Waffling and contradictions abound here in some comments I might add.. very little consistency, plays like pandering and ass kissing, without enough back bone to take a stand one way or the other without justifying, minimizing and excusing...Those of you know to whom I am speaking..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I thought the boy was 14 but nevertheless the boy is still growing and needs his father's guidance or at least attention sometimes.
    I'm not sure if DD is necessarily the best influence to provide guidance to a child, anymore - he's proven that with a tendency to violent outbursts, he's not much of a guidance, or a parent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    I am not so sure the kid would want to spend some time with Dad knowing the old bloke could turn violent at any time and bash the shit out of him.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    ^ I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill mate (beatings etc) and from memory it has happened twice in the last year and on each occassion the lad stepped way out of line.

    Not to mention DD admitted it on each occasion and I also see this as a positive.

    I still feel the situation is recoverable if DD attempts to spend less time here and more time with his boy. It is extremely foolish to give advice as nobody outside of the relationship really knows the exact situation but I am a firm believer in communication and unless that can happen the situation can only get worse.
    Yea, I suppose you are right there. DD has said he would like to connect more with the lad. Mainly with a right cross and left uppercut.

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    ^ Better not forget this , lest you be taken seriously..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda
    Yea, I suppose you are right there. DD has said he would like to connect more with the lad. Mainly with a right cross and left uppercut.
    I reckon DD has probably painted up the situation so as to increase post count actually and I am not falling for it.

    Quotes like "I beat him until my arms and fists ached" or along those lines are a bit Steven Spielbergish for my liking as if he had done that his son would of been hospitalized and or probably dead.

    Don't believe everything you read here mate!

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    ^Who said I believed it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
    I'm not sure if DD is necessarily the best influence to provide guidance to a child, anymore - he's proven that with a tendency to violent outbursts, he's not much of a guidance, or a parent.
    Unless you've witnessed these violent outbursts first hand you can't say much. Don't believe everything you read on internet forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda
    ^Who said I believed it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Panda
    DD has said he would like to connect more with the lad. Mainly with a right cross and left uppercut.
    I don't believe DD for a minute and a lot of what he has posted is a windup I reckon!

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    Made over a century didn't it.

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    What did he get you for fathers day ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvbot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck View Post
    I'm not sure if DD is necessarily the best influence to provide guidance to a child, anymore - he's proven that with a tendency to violent outbursts, he's not much of a guidance, or a parent.
    Unless you've witnessed these violent outbursts first hand you can't say much. Don't believe everything you read on internet forums.

    Daffney would make a much better parent, can probably draw cartoons really good.

    He is making a quid, so can easily afford packets of boiled lollies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda
    Made over a century didn't it.
    Nail on the head mate and this is all what forums are about isn't it at the end of the day!

    Controversial issues brings out the best and worst in people not to mention the post counts!

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