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kmart

I was an unruly kid, and my father justifiably kicked the shit out of me for my worst episodes.
Looking back, I'm glad he did. And I'm looking forward to beating the living shit out my own kids.

mad_dog

IS this your first teenager? How old is he? When I was 14-15 I used to nick tenners out of my mum's purse; to buy dope and speed and acid. It makes me blush thinking about it now but my brothers and sisters all did stupid things along the way drunken car crashes you name it but my elder siblings are an international school teacher and a Environmental health officer (BSc) and my younger brother is off to read PPE at a top 5 uni. And even mad dogger the boy who was taking speed and fucking girls when the other boys were playing British Bulldog 123. My dad and I came to fisty cuffs on more than one occasioin but if he had just smacked the shit out of me and kicked me onto the street at 14 I could have wound up dead or in a prison cell by the age 17 in some Cornish shit hole .... Now I am looking at an MA in Singapore after 5 years of teaching in SE Asia ... It really is "just a phase" and before you know it he'll e gone and you can say you did your part with a clear conscience..... I'd let the dust settle before you kick him out... If you are really serious at least see that he gets to the UK fucking up there is not so bad (big safety net) You know the kind of shit that can happen to young people with no home to go back to....

Think on.

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Jet Gorgon

Sorry to hear this news. I think DD is also angry that his son has brought shame on him and his family for stealing. Kids ain't easy, but neither are parents.

jaiyenyen

What does his mum/your gf think about what's happened?
Has she expressed a view?

Chairman Mao

I used to nick money off my Dad as an early teen, had the police visit on numourus occasians, grew out of all the nonsense by my late teens and am straight as a whistle ever since. Kids are like that growing up. Different stages n all that.

good2bhappy

A beating is punishment, the child must know why the punishment is being given. The penalty re a flogging etc must be administered in a judicous way, not with hatred or excessive violence.
To physically assault your own flesh and blood until your arms hurt is way over the top.

Panda

Its not just the beatings. DD has said he is finished with the Thai scum of a kid, but will continue to fund his schooling. It appears the kid is being put on the outer re a normal family relationship. Which amounts to little more than ongoing emotional and psychological torment for the kid. This kind of ongoing grudge punishment is likely to have a more adverse outcome on the kids future than the beatings. Domestic violence can take many forms apart from just psychical beatings. Seems DD is adapt at psychological torment as well as physical abuse.

Butterfly

seems a bit of an over reaction, screaming insults would have been more effective IMO

beating up your son is an horrible thing to do,

you do realize that one day he might beat you up,

chassamui

Your opinions, expressed without full knowledge of the context.

DaffyDuck

Context:

- He beats up the kid for having admitted to stealing a mobile.
- He brags about how good it made him feel.
- He brags about how he would continue, if he could find the kid.

This has nothing to do with context -- DD resorted to brutal violence against his own child, for which there is not only no excuse, but it also does not amount to any sort of solution.

I have made my position clear -- that whatever flaws DD sees in his son, and which he resorts to violence for, are the result of DD's failures as a parent. There is no additional context needed for these conclusions.

Similarly, if I find you annoying, or dumb, or stupid, or a worthless waste of biomatter, does not give me the right to beat the living daylight out of you.

Then again, your apologist attitude certainly is interesting - would be interesting to figure out if it's because of misguided loyalty to a child beater, or trying to cover up personal feelings of guilt...

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Butterfly

so Chass, you were beat up as a kid

explains a lot about your anger issue

Butterfly

so tell us Chass, you seem quite the apologist

do you beat up your own kids ? maybe you could do your coming out in this thread, part of group therapy

tjyflhol

Shouldn't take long, it's only three letters.

Norton

It will change him but not in the direction you would like.

Interesting comment! Your son not living up to family standards? The shame of it all.

Who would believe in stealing from friends or for that matter strangers? Beating the shit out of your son for stealing his cousins mobile phone ain't the way to reinforce your belief. Lots of better ways as suggested by others.

Insignificant short term gain for long term consequence!

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Spin

In a western context 16 is rightly considered an age where right is known from wrong.

However, this is SE Asia and Thailand. A 16 year old here is not comparable to a western 16 year old IMHO. They are not as worldly or mature as their western counterparts, not even close. Even up to the age of 23 or 24, I have heard educated Thai adults refer to that age group as "still children"
The mental development of a Thai 16 year old probably equates to about 12 in the western world. This will have a bearing on the behavioural expectations that a western parent puts on any children here.
DD is probably thinking his son should be acting like a man, an adult, taking responsibility for his actions and doing the right thing. His son is falling short of expectations, obviously.
DD did mention recently that his son ignored a police officer who was flagging him down and fled past him on his motorbike. I cant say I'm surprised this kid has gotten a good tanning. I've been there, done that, and can say it didn't do me any harm at all.

NickA

Read my post again.

I never said It was alright for DD to beat his kid. It was wrong and I think DD knows it.

I said the kid had to take responsibility for his actions.

DaffyDuck

Quite correct -- but beating the living daylights out of him certainly does not assist in such a lesson.

...which might be an interesting object lesson for DD.

Since DD has explained that he maintains him in a sort of economic dependency, there's your answer.

MeMock

Cmon DD you child abuser - come back and answer your critics!

crippen

Maybe his lad got him????

good2bhappy

probably put a contract out on him