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chassamui

Since when was it a crime to care enough about your kids to ensure that they know the difference between right and wrong?
Wake up and smell the winds of change blowing backwards through our once stable society.
I bet you are a health and safety advisor or a christian? maybe both.

Rural Surin

But such brutal and anti-social behaviour is very Christian. Contradictions abound.

madjbs

As long as they know it's wrong to steal but perfectly ok to assault people, everything will be ok ehh?

helge

No, i'm not a christian. Are you ?

jaiyenyen

My Thai wife has two son's, they are both thieving lieing shitbags. In the past, they have stolen from me and other family members. One of them stole my sister in laws mobile, on the day my wife and I got married!!!!. As much as I have wanted to beat F**k out of them, I have always stopped myself, by walking away and counting to ten a few times. My wife and me even got the Police to take them in once, and give them a good talking to.
The last incident was about six months ago, things seem to have settled down for the moment. They know that they will get nothing more from me, in the way of money or gifts. They also know that their mother, me and other family members don't trust them.
I used to beat myself up over not being physical with them, but the other day a couple of my brother in laws said how much they admired me by not hitting the boys. They saw me as a strong person.
I'm not convinced. I'm sure beating the shit out of them would have made me feel better.

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chassamui

So you admit to being H&S then?
Christian, don't make me laugh. I took back control of my own decision making process years ago.

crippen

It seems to me that the Thai attitude to ownership is that they share everything with each other, a sort or commune idea. Our white western ideals just do not apply to them! This certainly is the case when things are provided by a falang.

DaffyDuck

Yeah, that makes sense -- 'punish' a non-violent 'crime' with a completely irrational, over-violent reaction on your part 'because it makes you feel better'.

You keep talking about 'that Thai piece of shit', but from where I'm standing, you've placed yourself squarely in the 'piece of shit' position, as beating a kid until your hands and fist hurt is a far worse, and dumb-ass, offense, than a kid stealing a mobile phone.

If you have a problem with your son being Thai, then maybe you should have raised him differently -- whatever flaws he has now, fall squarely back on your failures as a parent. If you are beating him up over it now, then you are only beating up the wrong person.

The only lesson you managed to install in him is that it's perfectly okay to be psychotically violent -- well-done.

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Patrick

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maybe you should have raised him differently -- whatever flaws he has now, fall squarely back on your failures as a parent. If you are beating him up over it now, then you are only beating up the wrong person.

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I have to agree with this comment.

If a child is your flesh and blood and you were there in his formative years (or - worse - if you wern't) the responsibility for his behaviour as a teenager or adult is significantly yours.

I also have the distinct feeling that your repeated desciption of him as "a Thai piece of shit", with the clear denigration of 50% of his makeup (something over which he obviously had no control), has been conveyed to him several times over the years and is also a major component in his psycological makeup and lack of self worth or respect for others.

Patrick

Rural Surin

Too logical.

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chassamui

It's a bit l;ike that video of coppers arresting a drunk quite forcibly. Everyone was up in arms about it until they saw the evidence of his previous behaviour on cctv cameras before the arrest.
it was not until that was released later that people could see why the police had acted in the way they did.
Incidents should not be viewed in isolation as it gives a false impression. put it in context and it begins to make sense.

DrivingForce

With the primary difference being that this is posted from the offenders perspective telling the story of how HE reacted so there's no ambiguity, if he see's it this way it is undoubtedly significantly worse from HIS son's perspective..

Daffy......Spot on...In other words...

NickA

What a load of rubbish.

MeMock

Are you serious NickA? Whose responsibility is it then?

Nietzsche

I would have thought it was their own.

MeMock

So a child raises themselves is that what you are saying?

Nietzsche

Hang about - you're always telling me to take responsibility for my actions & stop blaming it on my upbringing!

You can't have it both ways.

Panda

I have no idea why DD feels compelled to come on a discussion forum and announce that he has just beaten up his juvenile son for a minor crime.
Its the second time now in a few months.
Perhaps he is looking for others to justify his actions, or perhaps its a cry for help? Who knows what lurks in the minds of domestic violence perpetrators who assault other family members less able to defend themselves.

Tough guy beats up son. How old is the kid? 13, 14, 15 years old?
Something any normal father would be deeply ashamed of instead of announcing it on an internet forum with the justification that it was punishment for a minor theft and made him feel good.

Quite obviously a blatant case of bullying if true.

The excuse offered by some that one can loose their temper and go out of control just ain't true in these domestic violence situations.
I've seen some of these so called tough guys in bars that suddenly gain a lot of self control when faced with much tougher opponent. They pick their marks and only loose control when they are sure they wont get a flogging themselves for their little psycho act.

What the kid did was wrong. Kids do a lot of wrong things growing up in order to know where the boundaries in life are. What DD did beating up his own kid is stepping outside those boundaries of acceptable behaviour generally judged by society. As an adult, DD must take full responsibility for his actions and be judged by his peers if he wants to put his case in a public forum. The kid certainly doest have that same opportunity to put his own case here in this forum as he would in a court of law. So we are really only getting one side of the story, and that is coming from someone who has a very high degree of influence over his peers as he owns the forum he is presenting his case in.

The jails in all countries are full of adults with psych issues as a result of being abused by a bullying parent. I cant see that punching the shit out of the kid and cutting him off from all further emotional ties is going to help him grow up into a better person. Chances are that its going to cause him to get into a lot more and serious trouble down the road.

You need to see a shrink rather than talking about it on your forum DD.

DrivingForce

Spot on...... well stated....

astasinim

Really? Ever heard the saying, give me the boy until seven, and i`ll give you the man?

I`ll reserve any judgement on the subject, as I have a son yet to reach that age, and I hope I dont find myself in the same situation. All I have to say is, I hope everything works out for the best, whatever the outcome may be.

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