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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Blow me, i'm going to have to agree with the troll boy about something. Basically all doctors in Thailand will try and pressure you into a C section as they get more money for it + it's a lot quicker, no 24 hour labour so the doctor can get back on the golf course instead of wasting his/her time in a hospital, they will also try and scare your misses into having one aswell. So basically unless you/your misses want a C section for whatever reason, insist on a natural birth unless there are medical reasons that dictate otheriwse.
    The wife actually wants to give birth naturally. Her doctor on the other hand says she will need a C-section because of her size, farang baby too big! The wife's normal weight is 38 kilos, last time doc weighed her ( last month ) she was 52 kilos. Think I will have a word with the doctor next time she goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizmoi View Post
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    Blow me, i'm going to have to agree with the troll boy about something. Basically all doctors in Thailand will try and pressure you into a C section as they get more money for it + it's a lot quicker, no 24 hour labour so the doctor can get back on the golf course instead of wasting his/her time in a hospital, they will also try and scare your misses into having one aswell. So basically unless you/your misses want a C section for whatever reason, insist on a natural birth unless there are medical reasons that dictate otheriwse.
    The wife actually wants to give birth naturally. Her doctor on the other hand says she will need a C-section because of her size, farang baby too big! The wife's normal weight is 38 kilos, last time doc weighed her ( last month ) she was 52 kilos. Think I will have a word with the doctor next time she goes.
    That is the normal BS reason they give 'farang baby too big', i was lucky in that my misses was still working at the hospital in Bangkok when she became pregnant and i'd met the doctor we were dealing with socially a couple of times, so no BS involved. But we were in the process of moving as i'd had enough of Bangkok, think the misses was 5 or 6 months gone when moved to the darkside of Pattaya so had to go register at a new hospital and ended up having this ignorant, evil Chinese bitch as a doctor who started giving my misses loads of shit about C sections etc, so a quick phone call to Bangkok and the doctor there phoned this Chinese bitch who after that actually turned into quite a nice person, few months later 2-3 hour labour, natural birth and no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    That is the normal BS reason they give 'farang baby too big'
    Very true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
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    Blow me, i'm going to have to agree with the troll boy about something. Basically all doctors in Thailand will try and pressure you into a C section as they get more money for it + it's a lot quicker, no 24 hour labour so the doctor can get back on the golf course instead of wasting his/her time in a hospital, they will also try and scare your misses into having one aswell. So basically unless you/your misses want a C section for whatever reason, insist on a natural birth unless there are medical reasons that dictate otheriwse.
    The wife actually wants to give birth naturally. Her doctor on the other hand says she will need a C-section because of her size, farang baby too big! The wife's normal weight is 38 kilos, last time doc weighed her ( last month ) she was 52 kilos. Think I will have a word with the doctor next time she goes.
    That is the normal BS reason they give 'farang baby too big', i was lucky in that my misses was still working at the hospital in Bangkok when she became pregnant and i'd met the doctor we were dealing with socially a couple of times, so no BS involved. But we were in the process of moving as i'd had enough of Bangkok, think the misses was 5 or 6 months gone when moved to the darkside of Pattaya so had to go register at a new hospital and ended up having this ignorant, evil Chinese bitch as a doctor who started giving my misses loads of shit about C sections etc, so a quick phone call to Bangkok and the doctor there phoned this Chinese bitch who after that actually turned into quite a nice person, few months later 2-3 hour labour, natural birth and no problems.
    Funnily enough, the wife's doctor is a Chinese woman. I will definitely be putting my view point across at the next appointment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Feck me, 11k is cheap. Our bill is expected to be between 60 and 100k if we opt for c-section. I assume it's a government hospital?
    Khon Kaen University Hospital, which means that you'll have delegations of cute coming doctors visiting you every day

    I like the place

    Not many will give birth in our local hospital, if they can chose otherwise
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson
    I read it incorrectly, I thought he'd typed 110,000 baht, which makes more sense.
    11,000
    Quote Originally Posted by Tizmoi
    Hi helge forgive my ignorance but what is a 30 baht card?
    The card that Thaksin brought inn

    I think it means you can get free treatments and they'll only rip you for the medicine

    Pure communism , I tell you !

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge
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    Hi helge forgive my ignorance but what is a 30 baht card?
    The card that Thaksin brought inn

    I think it means you can get free treatments and they'll only rip you for the medicine

    Pure communism , I tell you !
    Okay thanks for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizmoi View Post
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    Blow me, i'm going to have to agree with the troll boy about something. Basically all doctors in Thailand will try and pressure you into a C section as they get more money for it + it's a lot quicker, no 24 hour labour so the doctor can get back on the golf course instead of wasting his/her time in a hospital, they will also try and scare your misses into having one aswell. So basically unless you/your misses want a C section for whatever reason, insist on a natural birth unless there are medical reasons that dictate otheriwse.
    The wife actually wants to give birth naturally. Her doctor on the other hand says she will need a C-section because of her size, farang baby too big! The wife's normal weight is 38 kilos, last time doc weighed her ( last month ) she was 52 kilos. Think I will have a word with the doctor next time she goes.
    Just out of interest - are you somewhere with reasonable medical facilities?

    i.e if you go natural and it starts to go pear shaped at 2am, will there be proper facilities to handle it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizmoi
    Hi helge forgive my ignorance but what is a 30 baht card?
    As of 1 September 2012 the 30 Baht system has been reintroduced. When a Thai goes to a government hospital they pay 30 Baht towards the doctor and medicines, tops. Babies to 12 year old and adults 60 and over pay nothing. There's a few others excluded paying, but it doesn't really apply in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizmoi View Post
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    Blow me, i'm going to have to agree with the troll boy about something. Basically all doctors in Thailand will try and pressure you into a C section as they get more money for it + it's a lot quicker, no 24 hour labour so the doctor can get back on the golf course instead of wasting his/her time in a hospital, they will also try and scare your misses into having one aswell. So basically unless you/your misses want a C section for whatever reason, insist on a natural birth unless there are medical reasons that dictate otheriwse.
    The wife actually wants to give birth naturally. Her doctor on the other hand says she will need a C-section because of her size, farang baby too big! The wife's normal weight is 38 kilos, last time doc weighed her ( last month ) she was 52 kilos. Think I will have a word with the doctor next time she goes.
    That is the normal BS reason they give 'farang baby too big', i was lucky in that my misses was still working at the hospital in Bangkok when she became pregnant and i'd met the doctor we were dealing with socially a couple of times, so no BS involved. But we were in the process of moving as i'd had enough of Bangkok, think the misses was 5 or 6 months gone when moved to the darkside of Pattaya so had to go register at a new hospital and ended up having this ignorant, evil Chinese bitch as a doctor who started giving my misses loads of shit about C sections etc, so a quick phone call to Bangkok and the doctor there phoned this Chinese bitch who after that actually turned into quite a nice person, few months later 2-3 hour labour, natural birth and no problems.
    Funnily enough, the wife's doctor is a Chinese woman. I will definitely be putting my view point across at the next appointment.
    Which hospital???

    I see you asked about fees earlier, my misses had a private room with own bathroom, stayed for 3 nights and total cost was about 40k baht, this is going back 9 years though in a private hospital, but everyone else i know ended up having a C section probably most if not all of them not needed and their bills ranged from 70k-120k baht.

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    Private room government hospital 600 Baht per night, C-section free. Why the fcuk do people use private hospitals when the same doctors that work the private ones also work in the government ones ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman
    but it doesn't really apply in this case.
    Maybe not

    On the other hand:

    I have been told twice to go and make it for the kid, before they wrote out the bill

    By the nice staff at the hospital

    So maybe it has

    I don't know

    For Tizmoi:

    Your doc will properly put pressure on your wife,to have her use a private hospital

    And they are not used to patients argueing in Thailand

    That's where you come in

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Just out of interest - are you somewhere with reasonable medical facilities?

    i.e if you go natural and it starts to go pear shaped at 2am, will there be proper facilities to handle it?
    In all honesty I don't know. The wife has kept me very much in the dark. I ask a question, she just says " not worry " and sits there and massages her bump!!
    All I know regarding which hospital, is that she has to choose one in the next few weeks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge
    I have been told twice to go and make it for the kid, before they wrote out the bill
    That's the Thai medical card. Everyone has to have one, or you pay. Same as if you use a government hospital that you're not registered at, you pay. it's to stop Thais wandering the country looking for hospitals that give better treatment than the one they have to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Private room government hospital 600 Baht per night, C-section free. Why the fcuk do people use private hospitals when the same doctors that work the private ones also work in the government ones ?
    Cheers superman. I will keep this in mind next time we visit the doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizmoi
    she has to choose one in the next few weeks!
    What's wrong with the one she's registered with ?

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    ^^^
    OK, I see

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Private room government hospital 600 Baht per night, C-section free. Why the fcuk do people use private hospitals when the same doctors that work the private ones also work in the government ones ?
    Guess it depends where you live and the standard/reputation of available near by hospitals, think exchange rate was 70 baht - £ when my wife gave birth so i had no quarms with the £500-£600 it cost me, thought it was fokin cheap to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tizmoi
    she has to choose one in the next few weeks!
    What's wrong with the one she's registered with ?

    Don't know! Like I said, any questions that I ask only receive vague answers, if answered at all. Is just a thought but do doctors get a little reward for recommending a certain hospital?

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    My missus gave birth to all our children in the government hospital using C-section. It was her wish as she saw no point in paying extra money to use the same doctor she used in the government hospital. Were our kids worse off for being born in government hospital ? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizmoi
    do doctors get a little reward for recommending a certain hospital?
    They get paid more money to deliver a baby in a private hospital I assume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizmoi
    just a thought but do doctors get a little reward for recommending a certain hospital?


    Has crossed my mind aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    My missus gave birth to all our children in the government hospital using C-section. It was her wish as she saw no point in paying extra money to use the same doctor she used in the government hospital. Were our kids worse off for being born in government hospital ? No.
    Don't think anyone has made the suggestion that your kids are worse off being born in a government hospital, some of the military hospitals which i guess are classed as government hospitals as anyone can go to them are some of the best around. As i said it just depends where you live and what your available options are.

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    ^ Exactly right and if there is a problem, foreseen or not, they'll refer the woman to a better hospital as and when required

    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    Don't think anyone has made the suggestion that your kids are worse off being born in a government hospital
    I'm just relating that my kids are normal. Sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
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    Blow me, i'm going to have to agree with the troll boy about something. Basically all doctors in Thailand will try and pressure you into a C section as they get more money for it + it's a lot quicker, no 24 hour labour so the doctor can get back on the golf course instead of wasting his/her time in a hospital, they will also try and scare your misses into having one aswell. So basically unless you/your misses want a C section for whatever reason, insist on a natural birth unless there are medical reasons that dictate otheriwse.
    The wife actually wants to give birth naturally. Her doctor on the other hand says she will need a C-section because of her size, farang baby too big! The wife's normal weight is 38 kilos, last time doc weighed her ( last month ) she was 52 kilos. Think I will have a word with the doctor next time she goes.
    That is the normal BS reason they give 'farang baby too big', i was lucky in that my misses was still working at the hospital in Bangkok when she became pregnant and i'd met the doctor we were dealing with socially a couple of times, so no BS involved. But we were in the process of moving as i'd had enough of Bangkok, think the misses was 5 or 6 months gone when moved to the darkside of Pattaya so had to go register at a new hospital and ended up having this ignorant, evil Chinese bitch as a doctor who started giving my misses loads of shit about C sections etc, so a quick phone call to Bangkok and the doctor there phoned this Chinese bitch who after that actually turned into quite a nice person, few months later 2-3 hour labour, natural birth and no problems.
    Agreed. A lot of the Thais and Chinese also like to have the birth on "auspicious" or "lucky" dates / times as well.

    My missus insisted on a natural birth at the Bkk-Pattaya hospital last year. No objections from the docs there at all, really. However, came the time and after 12 hours of painful labour, my lad was not forthcoming. So we had to have a C-section eventually anyway. All in, about 45,000 Baht, not including previous checkups and ultrasounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizmoi View Post

    The wife actually wants to give birth naturally. Her doctor on the other hand says she will need a C-section because of her size, farang baby too big! The wife's normal weight is 38 kilos, last time doc weighed her ( last month ) she was 52 kilos. Think I will have a word with the doctor next time she goes.
    What? 38 kilos???
    In that case, it probably makes sense to have a C-section.
    Farang baby can be kinda big, my 2 kids with my thai wife weighed in at 4.4 and 4,6 kilos.
    The doctors set the birth going with the latter one, as they were afraid that the child would be too big for her to give birth to.

    First child was delivered by means of a suction cup. It was a very hard delivery and a critical one too.
    And my wife`s normal weight is 52 kilos, 152 cm.

    Best of luck to you and your missus.

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