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    Here is damn near exactly how I did it a number of times over the last years and it works fine.

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    Barbecue, the traditional American style of cooking, is not to be confused with grilling, although the terms have become almost interchangeable in millions of American backyards. Steaks, burgers and hot dogs are grilled. True BBQ is a different art form altogether.

    BBQ-style cooking developed largely in the American Southeast. People who couldn't afford the better cuts of meat were forced to consume tougher, fattier cuts like pork butt and beef brisket. The secret is to cook these cuts very slowly, over a duration of 4 to 6 hours or longer at temperatures near the boiling point of water. Two marvelous things happen when you slow-cook at low temperatures: The tough meat becomes flavorful and succulent, and the fat is rendered out, in sort of a self-basting. A fringe benefit is that the low, smoky fire leaves the aroma of smoke permeating the meat. I burn mostly oak, but my favorite is apple, when I can get it. Any fruit or citrus wood is good. Hickory makes everything taste like bacon, so I use it sparingly. Never use pine, any softwood or any finished lumber (like old furniture).

    Don't confuse this low-temperature smoke cooking, which is the essence of BBQ, with cold smoking. Meat that's meant to be preserved by curing with salt or honey and low moisture is also smoked, but in that case the temperatures don't go above 100 F or so, and the smoking period is measured in days, not hours. A properly cured ham can hang at room temperature for months without spoiling--BBQ is meant to be enjoyed immediately.




    Key to illustration above:

    [1] Lump-style charcoal
    [2] Firebox damper door
    [3] Firebox with tight-fitting door
    [4] Smoke chamber with chimney
    [5] Stainless steel grill
    [6] Seasoned oak and apple wood
    [7] Dinner—in about 4 hours.

    Traditional BBQ smoking is done in a brick pit, but there are all manner of commercial smokers on the market, ranging from very inexpensive sheetmetal water smokers to giant commercial-quality stainless steel contraptions the size of a small car (and costing almost as much).
    A good cook can make good BBQ in anything. I'm not even going to touch on the dry-rub-versus-mop debate, the ketchup-versus-vinegar-based BBQ sauce controversy, or whether to baste. I decided after years of working with a small water smoker--and recently acquiring a vacation house--to build one of my own. This project involves a lot of welding, which might seem daunting. Maybe, maybe not--I'm a certified welder, so it was easy for me. Several wire-feed welders are sold at The Home Depot and Sears, and you can learn to do simple welding with only an hour or two of practice. Salvaged materials will be fine for your smoker's frame. You can use old water pipe, rebar or even electrical conduit.

    I constructed my smoker out of 10-ga. sheet steel on a frame of 1-in. thinwall square tubing. One caution about barrels--unless you can acquire a genuine food-grade barrel, make your own. Any barrel that used to contain noxious industrial chemicals is not a good option, unless you want to grow another eye on your elbow. I used heavy-gauge steel (just under 1/8 in. thick) to ensure a long service life and to add thermal mass for all-day, slow fires. The round cross section I made isn't necessary--a square or rectangular one will cook just as well, although it will be a little tougher to clean.

    Our smoke chamber is 36 in. long x 18 in. in diameter. I made the firebox 12 in. long, which adds up to exactly the width of a standard 4 x 10-ft. sheet of steel, minimizing waste. Conveniently, these are exactly the dimensions that allowed me to use some stainless steel racks meant as a replacement part for a Weber grill. You'll need simple hand tools, a welder, a 4-in. angle grinder and a sabre saw. I lined the bottom of the firebox with a layer of fire-brick to keep the box from burning out too quickly and to conserve heat. I made the smoker so that it can be conveniently broken down into three parts: the firebox, the main smoke chamber and the frame. Collectively, they weigh nearly a hundred pounds, but handles on the smoke chamber make it easy for two people to tote around. Clever use of wingnuts means no tools are needed for assembly. Be prepared to be invited--with your smoker--to lots of outdoor parties.

    Despite all the doors being well-sealed, the nature of liquid smoke is to dribble out of every crack and off the bottom of the smoke chamber. This will permanently stain your deck even if the wood has just been sealed. I suggest making a large tray out of sheetmetal, with a raised lip, to go underneath. I installed a drain petcock in the smoke chamber to aid in cleanup.
    We'll clean up after we finish dinner, thank you.




    Welding
    You can now buy a 115-volt wire-feed welder for a very modest price. All of the welding we did on this project was done with 0.035-in. flux-cored wire, although you can gas weld if the metal you choose is thinner. Alternatively, if you have an arc (stick) welder, 10 ga. is about as thin as you can weld successfully.




    Cutting
    I welded the ends on first, keeping distortion to a minimum, and then cut the holes for the doors.




    A 2-in. holesaw gives nice rounded corners. I had to cut only three-quarters of the way around the openings because I used the unwelded seam for the bottom of the door.




    The steel can be cut with a sabre saw, but it's laborious and consumes a lot of blades. I also tried cutoff wheels on the grinder, which was somewhat faster, although it threw a lot more sparks. Next time, I'll beg, borrow or steal a plasma cutter.




    Bare Metal
    We had a local sheetmetal shop cut the pieces to size and then roll the drum sections for us, which cost about $200. You can use just about anything made of steel--as long as it's not galvanized. If you can find one, try a food-grade steel barrel.




    Trim
    An inexpensive piano hinge keeps the doors tightly sealed. I used pop rivets, but sheetmetal screws would work.




    Wooden handles, which stay cool enough to touch, are held in place by 5/16-in. bolts and brass spacers. The handle was sanded and paste waxed.




    Smoke Management
    The chimney is 3-in. chimney pipe.




    The low-tech firebox damper is the end of a soup can.



    The connection between the firebox and smoke chamber is a 2-in. water pipe, with the collars from a pipe union for nuts. The firebox hangs from this connection, which is surprisingly airtight. A bolt and wingnut lower down keep everything solid.
    With everything assembled and painted, it's time to build a hot fire in the firebox, and get all the metal hot enough to set the paint and burn off any mill scale and cutting oil lingering inside. After it all cools off, wash everything and paint the inside of the smoke chamber with vegetable oil to prevent rusting.

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    Sort of defeats us Aussies throwing a shrimp on the barbie and lacks a beer rack

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    The difference between true BBQ and char broiling is explained in the article,
    Those welders will not work here because they are made for 120V 60 hrz AC, and not for 220V makes them not unusable here, I have one in the states.
    Those same smokers are sold by Brinkmans Mfg. in the states.

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    You could get that smoker made up here at a very reasonable cost.

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    Been there done that and bought the t-shirt. Cost me B7000 for my first ever double barrel cooker made in our village. Great for awhile, then.

    The problem here in Thailand is the rainy season...

    Forget the metal and go with brick and cement.

    BTW, I am from the main BBQ area of the states. Sorry, but been there and done that.

    TIT...

    Sorry, blackgang, but rust tore me up...
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    Stainless?

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    A small 220V welder is cheap enough here.

    I just bought one of them empty painted steel barrels to start me off with a smoking chamber.

    What do you reckon?

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    Been there done that. Wait for the rain and then see what happens...

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    LC, stainless be great, I have checked into it a little here.

    I have made em in a few areas of the states and never had a problem, but you have to move em undercover during rainy season,
    And HB. I first made them for my cajun friends around Cameron LA. Brazoria TX, where I lived and everywhere south of Freeport, made one for the cooks on the dredge New Jersey in Manama Bahrain and the cooks on the derrick barge at Basrah.

    But nothing wrong with making it out of brick and block, just keep in mind how you want it to work and go from there. Still have to have a steel door on the cook chamber and for a firebox vent to control your burn I would think..

    Stroll, the welder that they are talking about does not use rods but very small flux core wire that comes in 12 pound coils and with finely controled juice you can weld pop cans together and are made for body shop use to weld car doors and fenders together, no way that you can get that good a weld with stick. Especially here where there is no 6011 rod and only 6013 with the heavy flux.
    10GA. is just over 1/8 inch thick, 1/8 is 11 GA. car fender is about 16 GA.
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    ^TIG welder?

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    The do not have the charcoal like back in the states in Thailand nor mesquite or hickory.

    Can still BBQ .

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    LC, TIG would be fine but just use co2 instead of argon, or 75/25 CO2/Argon, costs less and do as good a job, MIG welders are available here for about 20K baht, but could find no innershield wire, just bare hard wire like is standard for MIG. Tungstens are readily available too.

    YT. Charcoal is not really necessary if you can get fruit wood or hard wood, you can use it but just have to control the heat a little better, I have used just wood in mine before and would do so here when I build one. But nothing is as good as apple wood or mesquite wood, For smoking salmon or sturgeon I like apple and cherry woods the best.
    In Idaho we used BIRCH wood and some Alder for BBQ wood, works good but you have to be careful as to much smoke makes your meats bitter.
    If you can see smoke, you have to much..But BBQ has more heat so you will have smoke from the cooking meat and dripping fat, but for smoking cold, you never want to really see smoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    Stroll, the welder that they are talking about does not use rods but very small flux core wire that comes in 12 pound coils and with finely controled juice you can weld pop cans together and are made for body shop use to weld car doors and fenders together, no way that you can get that good a weld with stick.
    Ah, ok, I am not a welding guy, small-scale soldering and brazing is more my cuppa, I got torch and gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    LC, TIG would be fine but just use co2 instead of argon, or 75/25 CO2/Argon, costs less and do as good a job, MIG welders are available here for about 20K baht, but could find no innershield wire, just bare hard wire like is standard for MIG. Tungstens are readily available too.

    YT. Charcoal is not really necessary if you can get fruit wood or hard wood, you can use it but just have to control the heat a little better, I have used just wood in mine before and would do so here when I build one. But nothing is as good as apple wood or mesquite wood, For smoking salmon or sturgeon I like apple and cherry woods the best.
    In Idaho we used BIRCH wood and some Alder for BBQ wood, works good but you have to be careful as to much smoke makes your meats bitter.
    If you can see smoke, you have to much..But BBQ has more heat so you will have smoke from the cooking meat and dripping fat, but for smoking cold, you never want to really see smoke.
    You seem to know about BBQ mah niggha.

    U gonna up a rib shack in Thailand ?

    In Pattaya there are only 2 that can do anything that tastes remotely like real smoked BBQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    LC, TIG would be fine but just use co2 instead of argon, or 75/25 CO2/Argon, costs less and do as good a job, MIG welders are available here for about 20K baht, but could find no innershield wire, just bare hard wire like is standard for MIG. Tungstens are readily available too. YT. Charcoal is not really necessary if you can get fruit wood or hard wood, you can use it but just have to control the heat a little better, I have used just wood in mine before and would do so here when I build one. But nothing is as good as apple wood or mesquite wood, For smoking salmon or sturgeon I like apple and cherry woods the best. In Idaho we used BIRCH wood and some Alder for BBQ wood, works good but you have to be careful as to much smoke makes your meats bitter. If you can see smoke, you have to much..But BBQ has more heat so you will have smoke from the cooking meat and dripping fat, but for smoking cold, you never want to really see smoke.
    if it were me buying a welder I'd buy a stick machine, this can always be upgraded to TIG. Always hated inner-shield, MIG was OK and for this stuff they are probably ideal. Just wouldn't buy a wire-feed welder if it was going to be my first or only machine, though.
    10 GA is pretty weldable with 3/32 jet rod, even a penetrating rod like 6010/11. I dislike AC stick welding but have grown up spoiled on three phase 100% duty-cycle machines.

    TIG welding is slow and tedious and for something like this if you have a tig welder you have a stick machine. I'd use stick. It'd be faster. TIG is fun and gratifying but just not needed here unless you're wanting to show off your pretty welds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowTrip
    The do not have the charcoal like back in the states in Thailand nor mesquite or hickory.
    You obviously haven't been to Tru Value on Sukumvit road.

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    Imported for $80 a bag?


    Or a bag of "taan" for twenty baht

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    They have mesquite and hickory about 380baht per bag, you don't need a lot when your smoking so it aint a bad price.

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    First of all, the idea for doing this comes from Alton Brown and his show Good Eats. Without his inspiration, I wouldn't have even considered making this.
    Recently my good friend Martin moved back to Kansas from LA. When he left, he took his smoker with him. This left me without access to a smoker. This is A Bad Thing. Smoked food is one of life's great pleasures. I decided that I need to make my own smoker.
    I should explain the basic differences between grilling, BBQing, and smoking meat. Each is a way of cooking meat, but they differ in methods and results.



    Grilling is cooking meat by the direct application of high heat with a gas burner or an electric heater. Grilling is simple since temperature is easy, but doesn't bring any new flavors to the party.
    BBQing is cooking meat by the direct application of heat with charcoal or wood. The burning of the fuel adds flavor to the meat. BBQing requires more skill since the flames must be managed to prevent burning or low temperatures.
    Smoking is cooking meat by the indirect application of heat with wood at low temperatures. Low temperatures are considered around 225°. The smoke of the burning wood adds significant flavor to the meat.
    Due to the lower temperature, smoking meat takes a longer time than grilling or BBQing. Using different woods leads to different flavors being imparted into the meat.



    This is the basic design of smoker.
    See how the smoke created by the wood chips rises and slowly cooks the meat?



    So the plan is simple, use an electric hot plate to heat wood chips inside a metal trash can.
    I picked up a trash can at the hardware store and ordered a single burner hot plate.
    The first issue is getting the power cord out.




    I used a drill and metal nibbler to open a hole in the trash can.
    Be sure to file down the edges so that the power cord can't get cut.




    I had a small wood chip box that I had previously used with my gas grill.




    Here's the general setup with the hot plate powered.




    The wood chips are easy to find at any BBQ supply place.
    For my test run, I used hickory wood.




    The wood chips in position, ready to burn.




    After a few minutes the wood is starting to smoke.
    The first sign of success.




    With the lid on top, the heat and smoke build up rapidly.




    I decided to use top sirloin with a dry rub.
    The traditional meat to smoke is a tri-tip, but the supermarket was out.



    I got the temperature to 227°, right on target. Keeping the temperature
    between 220° and 230° is optimal for the long slow cook you are looking for here.

    Once the smoker is going, grab a beer and a good book and have a seat.

    The wood chips seems to last 60-90 minutes before they need to be dumped and
    replaced with fresh chips. Cooking the beef took about 4 hours to hit the target temp of 145°.




    The next day I decided to make a few additions.
    I went to the Barbeques Galore and picked a temperature gauge.
    I also drilled another airhole in the lid.



    For the second run, I decided to try chicken.
    I sprinkled a little Old Bay seasoning on the chicken and
    soaked the apple wood chips in water.



    You can see the smoke particles on the sides of the trash can.



    Here's the chicken ready to go.
    The water soaked wood helped the smoking go longer and kept steam in
    the smoker to keep the chicken moist.

    So there you have it, a working smoker made from easily available parts.
    Here's what I spent:
    Trash Can w/ lid: $12.00
    Electric Hot Plate: $13.00
    Grating: $10.00
    Wood Chip Box: $10.00 (actually, I already had this, but they are cheap if you need to buy one.)
    Temperature Gauge: $9.00
    So for just over $50, you can build a smoker.


    Now that I'm a very experienced smoker with two days of smoking, here are my suggestions:
    1) Soak the wood chips in water for 20-30 minutes before using them.


    2) Keep an ash can ready to dump the ashes into when you put new chips in.
    3) Take your time. Smoking takes a while. Don't be in a hurry.


    4) After taking the meat off the grating, wrap it in aluminum foil and let it sit for 30 minutes before eating.
    Thanks to Martin for his support and answers while I got rolling on my smoking career.






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    Outstanding Mr. Dirty.

    Where is the BBQ supply place ?

    That joint on Theppraist road that sells the grills ?

    And where the helll is the true value on Sukumvit ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie
    if it were me buying a welder I'd buy a stick machine, this can always be upgraded to TIG. Always hated inner-shield, MIG was OK and for this stuff they are probably ideal. Just wouldn't buy a wire-feed welder if it was going to be my first or only machine, though. 10 GA is pretty weldable with 3/32 jet rod, even a penetrating rod like 6010/11. I dislike AC stick welding but have grown up spoiled on three phase 100% duty-cycle machines. TIG welding is slow and tedious and for something like this if you have a tig welder you have a stick machine. I'd use stick. It'd be faster. TIG is fun and gratifying but just not needed here unless you're wanting to show off your pretty welds.
    Quote Originally Posted by friscofrankie
    if it were me buying a welder I'd buy a stick machine, this can always be upgraded to TIG. Always hated inner-shield, MIG was OK and for this stuff they are probably ideal. Just wouldn't buy a wire-feed welder if it was going to be my first or only machine, though. 10 GA is pretty weldable with 3/32 jet rod, even a penetrating rod like 6010/11. I dislike AC stick welding but have grown up spoiled on three phase 100% duty-cycle machines. TIG welding is slow and tedious and for something like this if you have a tig welder you have a stick machine. I'd use stick. It'd be faster. TIG is fun and gratifying but just not needed here unless you're wanting to show off your pretty welds.
    I have a small AC buzz box and have never liked em, like a Lincoln 200 pipeliner tho.
    If I could get the Lincoln 175 wire welder I would buy one in a NY second, use as innershield, or hook up a bottle and flometer and run dual shield, I like em on innershield with that new wire, very little smoke, no slag troubles and will weld any damn thing I have came up again here, and would be super for this thin shit they use for house roof structures. and at 30 pounds with a new roll of wire, you can carry it all over the place and it only takes an extension cord to go there.

    It would be some different if I could get more than 2 kinds and sizes of rods, but even with contact with Lincold and Hobart in BKK, they say there is none available here.
    3/32 6011 downhill would weld the piss out of thin shit, but not if it is in Frisco or LA and not in BKK.

    By jet rod do you mean 60/7024 or 60/7027 by chance, or do you mean jetweld Lincoln??

    For 10 ga I would prefer 1/8 fleet 5 P fleetweld Lincoln but that is only in 6010 and not AC stuff or the 175 wirewelder.

    The Lincold TecRep at Sing. told me that they have plans for the 175 to come out for here at 220v soon, so if they do I gonna have one them.

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    Tru Value is go down to the end of Soi Theprasit to Sukhumvit, turn right then do a U turn as soon as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Tru Value is go down to the end of Soi Theprasit, turn right then do a U turn as soon as possible.

    What ?

    On the same side as Lotus or the other side ?

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    opposite Lotus but not as far as Lotus from Theprasit.

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