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    Dog Breed - Bangkaew

    Does anyone have familiarity with the Thai breed of dog called "Bangkaew"?

    A Thai friend has one he bought in JJ Market as a little puppy and it's now full-grown and quite a handsome beast. The friend claims this breed is intensely loyal and quite protective of the master - all others beware. It's not a particularly big dog - 1/2 the size of a German Shepherd but quite tough from what I'm told. Beautiful markings on this dog too.



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    Yes, they're tough, tough dogs and vicious when they sense danger and towards other dogs. Can be very expensive too. I read that someone in Bangkok once bought one for 250,000 baht.

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    Looks very much like an Akita to me.

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    Cheers, slap...considering getting one but not at 250K baht! We need a dog for the property not so much the kemoy factor but the snakes. Heard these Bangkaews dig up the yard pretty good too which would be a problem as the wife has done extensive plantings. I'm going to take a look at JJ Market soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123 View Post
    Looks very much like an Akita to me.
    They are the Thai version of an Akita. The neighbours opposite me have one. It's a lovely dog, protects the house and kids very well.

    They love to fight with other dogs though. Even the bitches love a scrap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart
    They love to fight with other dogs though
    And they tend to win too. One of my Thai dogs, Buster, had his face nigh-on ripped off by one of them.

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    My son has been playing with a bangkaew puppy daily at the restaurant his mom is managing. Playing rough, too, but so far no problem, although apparently the same pup sank his teeth into the neighbor lady yesterday.

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    I have a baan kaew mix. Best dog I ever owned.

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    Girlfriend had four of them and sometimes they would get out of the yard/gate and they would pack up together. Neighbors and all the dogs in the area would run and hide until we were able to get them back into the yard.

    Thai’s do fear those little dogs for some reason. You have to watch them,.loyal to the owner and keepers but might be dangerous to others.

    And you or someone else will be cleaning up after them, a lot. They shed! This heat must be hell on them during the summer months.
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    I had one. Never again. I found it very difficult to train. Very dominant if other dogs around. Loved digging the garden up. Loved rolling in siht (anagram). The list went on. Not a dog that suited me.

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    I had one and he was difficult, bite a few people had to pay vaccines few times.

    Probably not took enough time to take care of his education, was roaming the house the first few month, but started be aggressive with any intruder or even toward the kids..
    Placed it in the factory where he had huge space and freedom, but we had to attach him at the end as he was after many people and employes got scared as well...

    I was told they are among the dumbest dogs in Thailand, stay well with owner and beware others, was quite a bit the case for ours...

    At the end a dog need a good education while young, we not did it, kind of our fault that behavior...

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    There's one up the road. When the English Bull Terrier (not mine, the noisy troublesome mutt... ) goes for a walk all the dogs around run for cover, but this BW stands its ground and seems aggressive, albeit on the other side of a fence...

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    Thanks for all the good info, guys...just located what seems to be the major breeder of Bangkaew in Phitsanulok. A place called "Chumsangsongkram Kennels" Thai bangkaew dog chumsangsongkram kennel Phitsanulok , Thailand

    They appear to have some nice dogs and I'll take a run up there and have a look. A bit more 'paeng' than something from JJ Market but I've never been a fan of buying a dog from a 'puppy mill'

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    I had one. Never again. I found it very difficult to train. Very dominant if other dogs around. Loved digging the garden up. Loved rolling in siht (anagram). The list went on. Not a dog that suited me.

    OO i can recognize my Jella so much in exactly the above ! she was digging tunnels and all, not up to listen...

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    That TV show with Cesar dog whisperer is quite nice, i learned quite a few simple trick to get the Streetbrador follow the rules and be a good dog...

    So much about master attitude in dog behavior !

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    The neighbor opposite me has one but it must be getting old because it's soft as shit (lovely dog) and Ninja beats it up at every opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Thanks for all the good info, guys...just located what seems to be the major breeder of Bangkaew in Phitsanulok. A place called "Chumsangsongkram Kennels" Thai bangkaew dog chumsangsongkram kennel Phitsanulok , Thailand

    They appear to have some nice dogs and I'll take a run up there and have a look. A bit more 'paeng' than something from JJ Market but I've never been a fan of buying a dog from a 'puppy mill'
    That's the area where they claim they come from. I used to live near Phitsanulok and knew one guy who was into showing his dogs. They are everything you say in the first opening post: loyal to family and aggressive towards anyone else. i don't think they are as expensive as you mentioned though. You probably could find them pretty easily from Nakonsawan north around Phitsanulok.

    I heard Thailand has three breeds of dogs but I think one of the videos I posted below says there are two breeds. The other breed the Thai Ridgeback comes from the Eastern provinces of Chantaburi and Trad.

    Some detail on the Ban Kaew in Thai.




    Some info on the Thai Ridgeback


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    Super super dogs Thais are genuinely frightened of them --we have 4--- very very loyal to the family not too much problem with visitors if you are around them.but they will always be top dog or bitch if you have any other dogs around .
    If one of my wifes brothers playfully grabs her ,the dog goes straight for him again very protective ,
    We bought our first ones from the market --a bad idea,one died and the other nearly after big vets bills --when pups a little bit fragile but later no problem
    We live on the edge of Jungle and have very few snakes around --although semi isolated no problem with thieves although other houses in the area have been robbed
    Ive heard though I am not sure that the Thai Army uses them to clear snakes
    If you have cats could be a problem OK if they grow up with them

    In summary wouldn't be without them

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    I've had two. The first died as a pup...only 3 months and close to 2000Thb in Vet bills. Some viral thing from what I could gather.

    The second was a beautiful pup but contrary as hell.....virtually un-trainable and almost demolished the garden. We eventually gave her to a
    Thai family out in the sticks where she promptly drown in their pond. Seems I don't have much luck with this breed...:confused

    The ones that have been diluted down a bit with less rambunctious tendencies seem to make fine pets and guard dogs so I may try again if I can find one that look really Bangkaewish and maybe acts a bit more Labradorish......
    I blame the Americans......and Thaksin.

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    I had one. Never again. They have a mind of their own and very difficult to train. Beautiful dog but not for me.

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    My wife wants a "golden" any idea on price or place to get a healthy puppy up North?

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    Korat night market but it's hit and miss. Best find your local vet and ask there, as that's where dog breeders advertise.

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    Neighbor has one. When he departs for work, the dog climbs the 6' fence and splits all over the neighborhood. Never seems to cause any trouble, but he is not friendly and usually returns to his house after he's surveyed the neighborhood via the same route. Amazing to watch him climb the wall effortlessly.

    We have lots of soi dogs about and never have witnessed aggressive behavior from the BangKaew. Seems to know his own mind and I don't have a problem with that.

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    I am very upset seeing these threads. I have raised wolf hybrids for years and I find it sick that those animals are stuck in los. The wolf or husky a cold weather beast.



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    The Bangkaew is not related to the Husky or Wolf; it originated in Thailand. It's origins are attributed to the Monks at Bankaew temple. They are quite comfortable and very much at home in a warm climate.

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