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    What kind of snake?



    This mornings visitor. We haven't sorted out the species yet. I think it's a kind of juvenile rat snake but wifey doesn't agree.

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    possibly a type of Kukri, non venomous.

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    http://www.siam-info.de/english/snakes_oligodon.html









    Family: Colubridae
    Subfamily: Colubrinae
    Genus: Oligodon (Kukri Snakes)


    Picture: R. Rauch

    Oligodon purpurascens
    (Brown Kukri Snake)
    Thai: (ngu kut)
    Length: Up to 95 cm
    Occurrence:
    Mostly in southern Thailand. According to literary references, (COX: The snakes of Thailand, COX et al. A photographic guide to the snakes of Thailand and Manthey & Grossman: Amphibians and reptiles of South East Asia) this snake is only to be found from southern Thailand downwards. COX states the occurrence area as the provinces of southern Thailand from Suratthani. However the animal which is illustrated here comes from the area of Pattaya. For this reason, it is likely that the habitat of this snake is wider than literature assumes.
    Behaviour/habitat:
    The snake is a resident of the primary and secondary woods up to a height of 1600 meters. However you can come across them here to human settlements. These snakes are mostly active at night and at twilight and live under rotting wood, stones and plants. If attacked, the snake is usually defensive and displays the typical defensive behaviour for an Oligodon (rolling up to the side and lifting up the tail). Should this snake happen to bite, it can lead to wounds with heavy bleeding as this species has very strong, curved back teeth.
    Danger: none
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Looks about right to me in compairing both pictures.

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    The pattern on it sure looks like a Kukri even if it wasn't really brown, more greyish and black.
    What worried us a bit was that it didn't act like the 'normal' non-poisonous snakes around here, p... off like a greased lightning when coming close to them. This guy was slow moving and just parked on the steps to the front porch and had to be motivated by wifeys garden rake before leaving.
    Also, the dogs didn't even try to bother it, normally they are quite good at scaring off snakes.
    Serious cooking can't be left to women.

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    General rule which I've found helpful over the years is: rounded or oblong head - non-venomous; triangular shaped head - venomous. Kukris can give a wicked bite; your dogs may have had the experience previously. It also may have been sluggish from the morning's chill if it was early and the sun had just come up - might not have warmed up enough to get lively yet.

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    I don't think that it was cold as it was 9.45 in the morning and about +30C outside.

    We got a bigger, fatter and lighter colored Kukri in the evening. This one was very aggressive and attacked the dogs.




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    Fantastic pics mate. Thanks

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    That blue eye colour suggest it's not what I suggested.

    But the Misses, a country girl insists it's the same.

    Yes, it's the same. nasty bite.

    Tend to hang out in termite mounds and the like.

    Nasty nip but taste good.

    " Kill, roast on BBQ, make skin out, make scales (?) out, make same same tom yam gai, but with snake ."

    God I love this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    That blue eye colour suggest it's not what I suggested.

    But the Misses, a country girl insists it's the same.

    Yes, it's the same. nasty bite.

    Tend to hang out in termite mounds and the like.

    Nasty nip but taste good.

    " Kill, roast on BBQ, make skin out, make scales (?) out, make same same tom yam gai, but with snake ."

    God I love this country.
    I like Singapore. See a snake. Call the police. Have them take it to the zoo.

    http://teakdoor.com/singapore-forum/...-sighting.html (Singapore - Whampoa river - python sighting)

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimboyfat
    I like Singapore. See a snake. Call the police. Have them take it to the zoo.

    Missing out on all that gastronomic adventure. What are you missing?

    However, I do take your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    That blue eye colour suggest it's not what I suggested.

    But the Misses, a country girl insists it's the same.

    Yes, it's the same. nasty bite.

    Tend to hang out in termite mounds and the like.

    Nasty nip but taste good.

    " Kill, roast on BBQ, make skin out, make scales (?) out, make same same tom yam gai, but with snake ."

    God I love this country.
    Wifey says that she prefer Ngo Singh (Rat Snake) in her Tom Yam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BosseO
    Wifey says that she prefer Ngo Singh (Rat Snake) in her Tom Yam.

    JJ say "he don't give a shit."

    Wifey eat what wifey like.

    (Though she's currently sound asleep.)

    JJ eat loin of pork and a baked potato.

    Maybe with a bit of a tomato salad.

    And a bit of a sauce.

    I love this place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by slimboyfat
    I like Singapore. See a snake. Call the police. Have them take it to the zoo.

    Missing out on all that gastronomic adventure. What are you missing?

    However, I do take your point.
    I save my snake eating for business trips to Vietnam.

    Its funny because although all of us here live in a suburban jungle, we're still not too far away from the real jungle. There have been stories of snakes making their way up through to peoples toilets but I think we are safe this high up

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    That blue eye colour suggest it's not what I suggested.
    snakes do not have blue eyes.
    this snake is about to slough it's skin, hence the "blue"
    colour. i don't know wtf kind of snake it is, just pleased that the op reacted by shooing it off instead of reacting by killing it for no reason (and here i include the thai reason that it might "taste nice"- they have enough chickens and insects and soidogs to sustain themselvesb),like many paranoid ignorant wankers would do.
    brrrzzzzt, brrrzzzt!
    beep!. ting, ting
    redirecting, please be patient..........:

    hello, insect!
    brrrzzzt, brrrzzzt..................

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    snakes do not have blue eyes.
    See photo above.

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    ^^ You seem a tad cranky tonight tsicar.

    Anything wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    ^^ You seem a tad cranky tonight tsicar.

    Anything wrong?
    perhaps.
    screwed my back up and been in pain for two weeks now.
    the blue eyes are caused by the thickening and seperating of the skin that is about to be removed to enable the snake to grow.
    snakes have no eyelids, and nor do they have a nictitating membrane like some lizards, so the scale over the eye thickens, gets a bluish tinge, and eventually becomes milky-white before the skin is shed, mostly in one piece.

    during this time, they often become just as cranky and ill tempered as a tsicar with a fukt back!

    cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    screwed my back up and been in pain for two weeks now.
    My sympathies.

    Get well soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar
    the blue eyes are caused by the thickening and seperating of the skin that is about to be removed to enable the snake to grow. snakes have no eyelids, and nor do they have a nictitating membrane like some lizards, so the scale over the eye thickens, gets a bluish tinge, and eventually becomes milky-white before the skin is shed, mostly in one piece.

    Bloody good info. Thanks.

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    Can I mention my piles in this thread as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimboyfat
    Can I mention my piles in this thread as well?
    Does it have any thing to do with snakes. ----- shudder----------

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