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Old 19-06-2009, 09:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Khao Manee Cat

For those who love cats.

First I just have to say I was devastated by the death of my Seal Point Siamese cat "Yen" when he died after being misdiagnosed with a throat infection when in fact it was a much more serious disease and was not diagnosed before it was too late to save him. But I sure did try, he was in my arms with an I.V. in his when he died.


So I was not really over it but, the lady I have been seeing has pretty much moved in and she is the same person that gave me the seal point and wants to have a cat.

She had mentioned a white cat, one blue eye and one green, that she had many years ago and kept telling me how hard it is to find them and how rare they are. I had never seen one outside of pictures and commercials.

So this a genuine breed. Originally bred only by Thai royalty especially Rama 5. There is more info here if you are interested.
http://www.ayshazencats.co.uk/khaomanee/articles/km.pdf

So with no hope of finding this cat I went on looking for any kitten I could bring home to make her happy. Asking pet shops of all kinds in any place I happen to be on the road, anybody that had any cat anywhere. I had to make a trip to an employee's house to get a key from him when I saw a black cat in the area. I asked one of the locals if there were any kittens around and he said, "aow maow mai"?"mee song thua si khao mod loey"

And he shows me this guy and gal.


WOW!!! That easy uh.
To say the least the Mss was happy..

Anyway these cats are two cool felines. Instantly well behaved in the house, very very intelligent and super friendly and lovable. They are brother and sister I believe so if anybody is within a 5 hour driv of Chiang mai and knows where I can get the a girl friend, let me know.

The Female is pregnant from an all black cat that I saw I think. Well be popping out in a month or so, also let me know if you want one.

Really beautiful cats...

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I don't really like cat's coz they piss/scent everywhere.

Each to there own i suppose.

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^ Never actually had that problem. My cats are well trained and well behaved. Maybe they just don't like you.

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Nice pics, cali kid.
I've got some kits that were dumped at 4 weeks in a temple & 4 of them are white (with some small markings) with blue eyes. They're so gorgeous that I thought maybe they were some Thai breed mix (rather than run-of-the-mill-moggies). Couldn't see anything similar when I googled, but they do look very similar to yours, so perhaps a Khao Manee mix???

BTW, brothers & sisters will still mate. As will parent & child of opposite genders. So, your male already has a potential girlfriend in his sister.
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Thank you NR.^^ I know they can mate but also heard that many cats that grow up together don't mate. I may have heard wrong.

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I've got some kits that were dumped at 4 weeks in a temple & 4 of them are white (with some small markings) with blue eyes. They're so gorgeous that I thought maybe they were some Thai breed mix (rather than run-of-the-mill-moggies). Couldn't see anything similar when I googled, but they do look very similar to yours, so perhaps a Khao Manee mix???
If they are mostly white and have blue eyes than I think they are most likely mixed khao manee and something else. Any of them have multi colored eyes?

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but also heard that many cats that grow up together don't mate.
Never knew that. This is my first experience with cats - I know much more about dogs - so I've learnt something new today. Thanks.



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Any of them have multi colored eyes?
Not multicoloured, but one has sort of pale turquoise eyes, bluey green. The others are blue. Facially & bodywise they look a lot like your cats, too.

Really lovely pics. Thanks.
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Sorry to hear about 'Yen.' What a beautiful Siamese.

The link that you posted isn't working for me.

The two white cats are lovely. How old are they?
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They are about a year old, so they still adjust easily and look great except that the female is missing most of her tail..

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The link that you posted isn't working for me.
Could try to copy and paste I suppose, was working for me..

http://www.ayshazencats.co.uk/khaomanee/articles/km.pdf
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Thanks Cali: I love cats...not a dog lover at all and always feel a bit on the outside here at TD because everyone seems to into dogs...especially Stroller...
Interesting stuff about the cats being bred for royalty...you learn something every day...
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Beautiful cats!!! I see they're keeping your wooden floors nice and polished!!
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^^ Yeah, and my GF is so happy she is also keeping the floors polished as well..

Only had them for two days but feels like I have had them since they were kittens. Super cool cats and the softest fur I have ever felt...
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Hi Phuketbound

You need to have acrobat reader installed to be able to read the PDF document.

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Congratulations on getting your beautiful Khao Manee. I am Chrissy and I thank you for posting the link to my website with the information about the Khao Manee. I own the very first Khao Manee in the UK, and my ChaWee is just fantastic. I have been breeding mainly Burmese cats for almost 10 years now and am very keen to promote this wonderful breed in the West.

You could contact Nink at the Purrpurr pet shop in Bangkok. Its at sukhumvit 33/1, and is called FurrPurr. The phone is 083 77 000 49, close on wednesdays. Nink is a CFA registered breeder and I have a KM boy coming over from her very soon. Tell her I sent you.

We are seeking more Khao Manee cats for breeding from Thailand. Our aim is to expand this beautiful breed again, as I understand it is becoming quite rare even in Thailand. This is all being done with much love and care and we are all working towards acceptance from our registries, (in the UK, the Governing Council of the Cat Fancy), and we now have a club dedicated to the breed, of which I am the Chairman. I am new to the forum so cannot post links yet but you can google the Khao Manee Cat club.

If anyone knows of any Khao Manee breeders please let us know, as we really need to start this breed off with a healthy and varied genepool, and we are willing to visit and bring the cats over to the UK, finance permitting of course!!! lol!!

Anyway, I wish you a lifetime of happiness and good luck with your lucky Khao Manee cats.

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Thanks for the info Chrissy, I am sure I will be getting a few more as soon as I have the room and have had thought of breeding myself as I am set in a good position to do it here in Thailand.
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Cats should be banned as pets. They do nothing and expect you to do everything for them. Shoot them on sight!!
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My old cat a day or so before she fell off the perch at 20 something. What a great animal. But as nice as cats are, they devastate our natural wildlife, and I won't be having another one.

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^Sasha is beautiful, but just how did she upset your natural wildlife? Eating rats and mice?

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How about we shoot you instead. Cats are needy, but so are dogs.

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My cat brought me rats on a regular basis as a ways to say thnx for feeding him I guess, he could have ate them, but was full thnx to me. cats clean themselves, can feed themselves easily and can be left outside to wonder around for hours or days at a time and always come back(still looking as healthy as when they left).

Sorry I like dogs but dont find them being capable of this kind of independence once domesticated.

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Felis catus

Feral cat With the cunning of a tiger and a distinctive green eyeshine that pierces the black of night, the feral cat is a predatory, carnivorous animal. Unlike the humble backyard moggy, it doesn’t rely on human contact.
Feral cats are pet cats that have gone wild. They are found all over Australia and are one of the most damaging feral animals in this country.
Even pet cats threaten our native wildlife!

What does it look like?
While similar in appearance to the backyard moggy, the feral cat is more muscular around the head. The average male weighs 3–6kg. Females are smaller.
Australian feral cats are mainly short-haired. Coat colours vary, allowing the cat to blend into its natural surroundings. Ginger cats are more likely to be found in semi-arid and desert areas, while grey and black cats are found in scrub and forests.
Where does it live?
During the day, the feral cat rests in hollow logs, clumps of grass or debris. But by night, it prowls bushland and backyards, preying on native Australian animals.
The feral cat does seem to have nine lives. Its ability to get food and shelter from the natural environment means it’s found everywhere — from semi-arid desert and the urban backyard to scrub and bushland.
What does it eat?
Feral cats are one of the greatest threats to Australian wildlife.
The average feral cat needs 300g of flesh daily to survive. A study of the stomach contents of cats shows they eat almost anything that moves including geckoes, skinks, crickets, locusts, birds, small native mammals, spiders and even plants.
Cats have been found to eat more than 186 species of native birds, 64 species of mammals, 87 species of reptiles and 10 species of frogs.
How does it breed?
Feral cats are prolific breeders. A female can have three litters a year, with an average of five kittens a litter.
Impact
Queensland’s feral cat population stands at about 15 million, which is greater than the domestic cat population. But even apparently harmless domestic cats kill and injure wildlife in surprising numbers.
The feral cat is one of the main predators of Australian wildlife. While it’s difficult to measure, feral cats clearly are reducing the populations of many native animals. They might even threaten the survival of some rare and endangered species.
Domestic cats also threaten wildlife. It’s estimated that cats kill 3.8 million native Australian animals each year.
Feral cats are particularly damaging to isolated animal populations. A single feral cat was the main predator of an isolated colony of allied rock-wallabies in north Queensland.
From 1990 to 1992, the feral cat population in the Diamantina region of south-west Queensland grew rapidly after good rains. Scientists were concerned because this is the site of Queensland's major surviving colony of the endangered greater bilby. In two weeks more than 500 feral cats were shot on Davenport Downs.
Apart from preying directly on wildlife, feral cats compete with native animals for scarce food resources.
How can it be controlled?
Cat owners can take a few simple steps to prevent their cats from killing our wildlife or becoming feral.
Australia’s feral cat population is exploding. While no control method is satisfactory, the best method for controlling feral cats is to use traps. Other more expensive and time-consuming methods include:
  • exclusion fencing;
  • shooting; and
  • developing viral-immunocontraception.
But biological control is probably one of the best options.
How can you help?
Feral cat eradication programs won’t work if the feral cat population is restocked with stray and dumped domestic cats.
Domestic cats can become wild if abandoned or allowed to stray. Even domestic cats hunt and kill animals instinctively.
Cat control should begin in the home. Cat owners should observe the following tips.
  • Label your cat with a collar, tag, microchip or tattoo.
  • Desex your cat to avoid unwanted litters.
  • Keep your cat indoors at night — ideally in an enclosure — to prevent it from preying on native animals.
  • Provide adequate food and shelter for your cat. Provide your cat with enclosed areas for exercise.
  • Attach bells to your cat’s collar so that it can’t stalk animals.
  • Support moves to introduce cat controls, such as identification, registration, and curfews.
Don’t feed stray or feral cats! Remember, stray cats can become feral.
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^^Would like to see a funny parody on this about soi dogs in Thailand..

And as I said, cats can take care of themselves.
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Hello Cali kid,
If you decide to breed Khao Manee, I suggest you try to find "mates" that have nice straight tails if you can. The kink tail gene is dominant, as is the white gene, so if the black cat that mated with your white female has a nice straight tail, then the chances are that 1/2 of the kittens will be white and also that 1/2 of the kittens will have tail kinks. We do not usually breed blue-eyed white cats to other blue-eyed white cats, primarily to avoid deafness. We think that breeding a yellow-eyed white cat to a blue-eyed white cat is more likely to result in odd-eyed white cats than breeding two yellow-eyed white cats together.

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Thanks for the info Chrissy, I am sure I will be getting a few more as soon as I have the room and have had thought of breeding myself as I am set in a good position to do it here in Thailand.
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Khao Manee

HI Cali

I agree with Janets comments.

I am visiting ChaAm/Hua Hin in September (I live in the UK) and am keen to meet local hai people with Khao Manees.

If anyone can point me in the right direction I would be really grateful. It is important to conserve this breed, and to work from as diverse a genepool as we can find, in order to ensure the future health of the breed.

Please feel free to email me off list chrissycatnip [at] hotmail.co.uk

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Khao Manee

Khao Manee can indeed have blue eyes, yellow eyes, or odd eyes. I breed Khao Manee in the UK.

They are indeed very beautiful and intelligent cats. It is an honour to live with them :-)

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I've got some kits that were dumped at 4 weeks in a temple & 4 of them are white (with some small markings) with blue eyes. They're so gorgeous that I thought maybe they were some Thai breed mix (rather than run-of-the-mill-moggies). Couldn't see anything similar when I googled, but they do look very similar to yours, so perhaps a Khao Manee mix???
If they are mostly white and have blue eyes than I think they are most likely mixed khao manee and something else. Any of them have multi colored eyes?
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Was that a Khao Manee in the Bangkok Post "stray cats" article today - white cat with two different coloured eyes? Or are there others that fit this description?
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Khao Manee in Bangkok Post?

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Was that a Khao Manee in the Bangkok Post "stray cats" article today - white cat with two different coloured eyes? Or are there others that fit this description?
Is the article on line Twocam? I would like to see it. It is very possible it is a Khao Manee. If you have a url for the article I would be very grateful.

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