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forreachingme · 02-01-2008, 07:49 PM

There is one empty wooden house in the backyard, the pigeons made it their home.

On the way to there is another house taken as a nice hang out spot, they are noisy and really shitty...

Would a lacrymogen bomb do the job in the old wooden house ? most prolly the eggs would survive and the pigeons be back in no time...

It is not Hatyai but Korat, so we can't just blow the old house...

Any pigeon repelent trick ?

blackgang · 02-01-2008, 07:56 PM

No way that I have heard of, far as I know poison grain will not even do it to them.
Maybe trap em or shoot em with a pellet gun, but I don't know if even Thai will eat em..

Thormaturge · 02-01-2008, 07:57 PM

Peregrine Falcons

forreachingme · 02-01-2008, 08:02 PM

^ and where will these Peregrine Falcons live ?

Can you rent us a few for a couple of days ?

forreachingme · 02-01-2008, 08:03 PM

Pellet gun is latest investment, but broke a window allready !

Thormaturge · 02-01-2008, 08:05 PM

Look, if you are going to have a Peregrine Falcon problem then start another thread. This is the pigeon thread.

forreachingme · 02-01-2008, 08:08 PM

^ Noted !

Can any mod split this thread and by the same occasion advise on a good repelent for peregrin falcons ?

blackgang · 02-01-2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forreachingme

Pellet gun is latest investment, but broke a window allready !

Well, then you need some better GUN CONTROL,,555

Happyman · 02-01-2008, 08:18 PM

We are plagued by the bastards!!
Thread just at the right time!Those little things that kids buy and throw on the ground and go "bang"has prompted me to buy some and sort the Yellow ones out.
Going to mix them with sweetcorn and let them have a go !
They only need a sharp tap to set them off- peck ??? I hope so
Will report back on progress - trying them out first time in the morning.

forreachingme · 02-01-2008, 08:22 PM

Avian Dissuader by SeaTech

As issues of safety, health, and property damage associated with wildlife populations increase, so too does public demand for non-lethal, non-injurious, and environmentally benign solutions to such problems. Recent research conducted by the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA) Wildlife Services' (WS) National Wildlife Research Center (NWRC) indicates that relatively low-power, long wavelength lasers (630-650nm "red beam) provide an effective means of dispersing some problem bird species under low-light conditions, while presenting no threat to the animal or environment

How the Avian Dissuader® was conceived and developed:
SEA Tech developed the Avian Dissuader®, after the US Air Force laboratory contacted our parent company, Science and Engineering Associates. It seems that other laser products our parent company developed for military use had shown evidence of scaring birds away when the laser happened to be targeted in their direction. Using the "flashlight" model developed for the military, SEA Tech then tested it in conjunction with the USDA/APHIS/ WS Wildlife Research Center in Sandusky Ohio (testing funded by FAA). The results of that testing, both penned and field, show that the 650nm wavelength "Red" laser is highly effective on most aquatic, wading, and night flying birds. This would include Geese, Ducks, Gulls, Egrets, Herons, Cranes, Plovers, Ibis, Cormorants, Stilts, Crows, Ravens, Mynas, and Vultures, plus others. Sea Tech then developed a laser designed for bird control which is as powerful as the "flashlight" model but has a pistol grip for easy aiming at smaller targets and is substantially less expensive.
How the Avian Dissuader is used:
The Avian Dissuader® is handheld and designed to be used between dusk and dawn - primarily to deny the targeted birds their desired roost. Simply point the Dissuader in the general direction of the birds you are targeting. The reflection of the beam spot off of foliage, water, or even other birds is what frightens them away. Once the roost is completely clear, the birds will not normally return that night. Field-testing has shown that 3 to 7 nights of using the laser to deny the desired roost has a substantial impact on subsequent daytime and nighttime population.
How often the laser must be used to control the targeted population depends on species, location, and other dynamics such as alternative roosting sites and/or alternative food sources. Generally though, after introducing the laser for sufficient nights to break the roost, the birds will leave and only send their "scouts" back periodically to see if the roost is now OK. Re-introducing the laser to these "scouts" will prevent the flock from returning. Most encouraging is that both penned and field-testing by customers and the USDA/APHIS/Wildlife Services have not shown any tendency of the birds to learn to ignore the laser. Indeed, some species appear to become more frightened of the Dissuader when it is re-introduced.
Non - lethal, non harmful bird control:
Part of the testing the National Wildlife Research Center conducted was the effect of high powered, 650nm wavelength, lasers on the birds targeted - their findings showed no physical harm to the birds or their vision systems even after many hours of uninterrupted exposure. Since the birds' eyes are coated with a film, or oils depending on species, to protect them from the UV rays of the sun, they appear to have a natural vision defense against the beam generated by the laser. Although mostly night-flying birds were a part of testing, this natural defense appears to also apply with diurnal birds or birds who are normally active in the day time.

Code: WCSAD01
Shipping Weight: 4.00 pounds

$1108.00 each
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1250 USD ! for one laser, can rent a guy for a year with the pellet gun and no shipment necessary!

Will give it a try with one 100 Thb laser !

The_Dude · 03-01-2008, 12:05 AM

How about having a motion detector operating a solenoid watervalve attached to a sprinkler head. It will scare them off. This is done in the states at hospitals and other facilities that are animal friendly. I hate flying rats they can cause health problems when their shit is dry and airborne, microbial bacteria can cause respitory illness.

Texpat · 03-01-2008, 12:13 AM

slingshot and pachinko balls

keda · 03-01-2008, 12:14 AM

Never mind high tech, hang a couple of CDs so they swing with the breeze...that's what I use to deter pesky birds that were roosting in our aircon thingies outside, and it does work.

But talk of pellet guns...anyone happen to know if it's possible to bring in an air rifle without too many hassles?

Thormaturge · 03-01-2008, 12:25 AM

Some owls will eat young Peregrine falcons.

So, a couple of Peregrines and then an owl a few months later to deal with any young.

Spin · 03-01-2008, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forreachingme

$1108.00 each

38,000 baht for a noise gun to get rid of pigeons! ouch!

Happyman · 03-01-2008, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keda

Never mind high tech, hang a couple of CDs so they swing with the breeze...that's what I use to deter pesky birds that were roosting in our aircon thingies outside, and it does work.

Dont work on Phuket balconies - my place is like HMV reject shop and the buggers just ignore them

See my previous post on the subject - full report on success or otherwise tomorrow night !

keda · 03-01-2008, 01:23 AM

Maybe you're using the wrong CDs then, have you tried heavy metal?

Thormaturge · 03-01-2008, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keda

Never mind high tech, hang a couple of CDs so they swing with the breeze...that's what I use to deter pesky birds that were roosting in our aircon thingies outside, and it does work.

Karaoke CD's are possibly the best deterrent.

The_Dude · 03-01-2008, 07:50 AM

Check this video on the sprinkler thingy!
SpikedHumor.com » Pigeon Defense System - Motion-activated Sprinkler » SpikedHumor.com

keda · 03-01-2008, 08:12 AM

02-01-2008, 07:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
forreachingme in a hammock Last Online: Today 11:54 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 260 km north east of krungthep Posts: 1,316	How to get rid of pigeons ? There is one empty wooden house in the backyard, the pigeons made it their home. On the way to there is another house taken as a nice hang out spot, they are noisy and really shitty... Would a lacrymogen bomb do the job in the old wooden house ? most prolly the eggs would survive and the pigeons be back in no time... It is not Hatyai but Korat, so we can't just blow the old house... Any pigeon repelent trick ?

03-01-2008, 12:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
The_Dude Phayao Last Online: 30-11-2008 08:55 AM Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nakornratchasima/Sacramento Posts: 539	How about having a motion detector operating a solenoid watervalve attached to a sprinkler head. It will scare them off. This is done in the states at hospitals and other facilities that are animal friendly. I hate flying rats they can cause health problems when their shit is dry and airborne, microbial bacteria can cause respitory illness. __________________ All people have photographic memories, the problem is most people don't have film!

02-01-2008, 07:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
blackgang Senior Member Last Online: Today 01:51 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phetchabun city Posts: 6,972	No way that I have heard of, far as I know poison grain will not even do it to them. Maybe trap em or shoot em with a pellet gun, but I don't know if even Thai will eat em..

02-01-2008, 07:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
Thormaturge Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,196	Peregrine Falcons

02-01-2008, 08:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
forreachingme in a hammock Last Online: Today 11:54 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 260 km north east of krungthep Posts: 1,316	^ and where will these Peregrine Falcons live ? Can you rent us a few for a couple of days ?

02-01-2008, 08:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
forreachingme in a hammock Last Online: Today 11:54 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 260 km north east of krungthep Posts: 1,316	Pellet gun is latest investment, but broke a window allready !

02-01-2008, 08:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
Thormaturge Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,196	Look, if you are going to have a Peregrine Falcon problem then start another thread. This is the pigeon thread.

02-01-2008, 08:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
forreachingme in a hammock Last Online: Today 11:54 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 260 km north east of krungthep Posts: 1,316	^ Noted ! Can any mod split this thread and by the same occasion advise on a good repelent for peregrin falcons ?

02-01-2008, 08:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Happyman Elite Member Last Online: Today 02:25 PM Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Rawai Phuket Posts: 2,893	We are plagued by the bastards!! Thread just at the right time!Those little things that kids buy and throw on the ground and go "bang"has prompted me to buy some and sort the Yellow ones out. Going to mix them with sweetcorn and let them have a go ! They only need a sharp tap to set them off- peck ??? I hope so Will report back on progress - trying them out first time in the morning.

02-01-2008, 08:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
forreachingme in a hammock Last Online: Today 11:54 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 260 km north east of krungthep Posts: 1,316	Avian Dissuader by SeaTech As issues of safety, health, and property damage associated with wildlife populations increase, so too does public demand for non-lethal, non-injurious, and environmentally benign solutions to such problems. Recent research conducted by the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA) Wildlife Services' (WS) National Wildlife Research Center (NWRC) indicates that relatively low-power, long wavelength lasers (630-650nm "red beam) provide an effective means of dispersing some problem bird species under low-light conditions, while presenting no threat to the animal or environment How the Avian Dissuader® was conceived and developed: SEA Tech developed the Avian Dissuader®, after the US Air Force laboratory contacted our parent company, Science and Engineering Associates. It seems that other laser products our parent company developed for military use had shown evidence of scaring birds away when the laser happened to be targeted in their direction. Using the "flashlight" model developed for the military, SEA Tech then tested it in conjunction with the USDA/APHIS/ WS Wildlife Research Center in Sandusky Ohio (testing funded by FAA). The results of that testing, both penned and field, show that the 650nm wavelength "Red" laser is highly effective on most aquatic, wading, and night flying birds. This would include Geese, Ducks, Gulls, Egrets, Herons, Cranes, Plovers, Ibis, Cormorants, Stilts, Crows, Ravens, Mynas, and Vultures, plus others. Sea Tech then developed a laser designed for bird control which is as powerful as the "flashlight" model but has a pistol grip for easy aiming at smaller targets and is substantially less expensive. How the Avian Dissuader is used: The Avian Dissuader® is handheld and designed to be used between dusk and dawn - primarily to deny the targeted birds their desired roost. Simply point the Dissuader in the general direction of the birds you are targeting. The reflection of the beam spot off of foliage, water, or even other birds is what frightens them away. Once the roost is completely clear, the birds will not normally return that night. Field-testing has shown that 3 to 7 nights of using the laser to deny the desired roost has a substantial impact on subsequent daytime and nighttime population. How often the laser must be used to control the targeted population depends on species, location, and other dynamics such as alternative roosting sites and/or alternative food sources. Generally though, after introducing the laser for sufficient nights to break the roost, the birds will leave and only send their "scouts" back periodically to see if the roost is now OK. Re-introducing the laser to these "scouts" will prevent the flock from returning. Most encouraging is that both penned and field-testing by customers and the USDA/APHIS/Wildlife Services have not shown any tendency of the birds to learn to ignore the laser. Indeed, some species appear to become more frightened of the Dissuader when it is re-introduced. Non - lethal, non harmful bird control: Part of the testing the National Wildlife Research Center conducted was the effect of high powered, 650nm wavelength, lasers on the birds targeted - their findings showed no physical harm to the birds or their vision systems even after many hours of uninterrupted exposure. Since the birds' eyes are coated with a film, or oils depending on species, to protect them from the UV rays of the sun, they appear to have a natural vision defense against the beam generated by the laser. Although mostly night-flying birds were a part of testing, this natural defense appears to also apply with diurnal birds or birds who are normally active in the day time. Code: WCSAD01 Shipping Weight: 4.00 pounds $1108.00 each FREE SHIPPING International Orders $1250.00 each Call for S/H Charges 1250 USD ! for one laser, can rent a guy for a year with the pellet gun and no shipment necessary! Will give it a try with one 100 Thb laser !

03-01-2008, 12:13 AM	#12 (permalink)
Texpat ฝรั่งพูดมาก Last Online: Today 01:21 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nong Khai Posts: 9,788	slingshot and pachinko balls

03-01-2008, 12:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
keda Senior Member Last Online: Today 01:50 PM Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,675	Never mind high tech, hang a couple of CDs so they swing with the breeze...that's what I use to deter pesky birds that were roosting in our aircon thingies outside, and it does work. But talk of pellet guns...anyone happen to know if it's possible to bring in an air rifle without too many hassles?

03-01-2008, 12:25 AM	#14 (permalink)
Thormaturge Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,196	Some owls will eat young Peregrine falcons. So, a couple of Peregrines and then an owl a few months later to deal with any young.

03-01-2008, 01:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
keda Senior Member Last Online: Today 01:50 PM Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,675	Maybe you're using the wrong CDs then, have you tried heavy metal?

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The_Dude Phayao Last Online: 30-11-2008 08:55 AM Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nakornratchasima/Sacramento Posts: 539	Check this video on the sprinkler thingy! SpikedHumor.com » Pigeon Defense System - Motion-activated Sprinkler » SpikedHumor.com

03-01-2008, 08:12 AM	#20 (permalink)
keda Senior Member Last Online: Today 01:50 PM Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,675