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    Sorry for your loss, I too have a Pitbull and a Great Dane. They are house dogs and are only let out in the yard to use the toilet. I walk them each evening a good few km leashed around my moo baan.

    The Pitbull has never barked at a person before and super friendly, the Great Dane is possibly the dumbest most clumsy dog I've ever owned but got a huge huge bark that's likely to deter anyone that comes up to my gate (well that and she's the size of a small horse).

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    Real sorry to hear this.

    i have to ask, you don't have anyone nearby with a litter of pups they want/need to sell ? Make sure you buy any replacements from well outside the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog
    Its simply villagers putting down poison - usually to tackle vermin such as rats.
    This is Isaan nigga!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterpan
    I hear that the head man is not about to be reelected.
    True, he's there for life unless he either quits or a petition is made to remove him.

    Re lapdogs: There's a pug breeder near the airport if your missus fancies one of them.

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    Sorry to hear about your dogs.


    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Keeping the dog inside is not an option since one of the reasons for having them is property protection.
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    That's just the excuse, in practice they bark so much nobody thinks anything of it so they are not really property protection. Like car alarms nobody takes any notice. if you want property protection get cctv.
    you can't be that obtuse ?

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    I've posted my thoughts on dog poisoning and the scumbags who do it before so no need to rehash.

    Condolences on your loss Rick, take a little time to grieve and then find some new companions.

    I have 2 soi dogs that we gave a home to and they are loyal, extremely friendly (although curious but politely cautious with strangers) and not afraid to kick up a racket in the night if somebody unknown comes snooping around.

    OK, they aren't about win any prizes at Crufts but as far as temperament and cost of maintenance go they are perfect little autonomous home security devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    My second theory is more bothersome. It involves older men poisoning any dogs in the area of a future theft. Getting rid of the alarm is the first step of any theft. Luckily, I have build a block wall with a locking steel gate around the front of the house and it would be more difficult to steal anything from us than from the neighbors.
    That seems to be the normal reason for something like that.

    Very sorry to hear of your losses.
    Yes....use to be more common place than today. But still happens.
    Some scroundrels will go through the whole village overnight/early morning and set poisoned goodies out for all canines that might be a future nuisance towards their thieving activities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    ^^
    Not really. The Pit Bull was pretty quiet. The smaller dog barked if someone came around. Across the street is where most of the barking happened, and up the street.
    The poison could have been intended for other dogs.

    Regardless, sorry to hear about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    I live in a village about 10km outside Udon Thani.
    Sorry to hear of the loss of your dogs. Not likely the case given your location but I had a beautiful gentle Rottie poisoned in Phuket. Found out was done by a Muslim restaurant owner just up the beach from the house.
    Norton, since you found out who did the poisoning, did you do anything with that information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xanax View Post
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    Way off base Xanax. Do your homework.
    Well it's not difficult is it, the dogs were killed because Thais nearby either did not like the dogs or the owner. As for pit bulls being angels, not hard to find out that in fact they are not and were not bred to be. Don't know about here ot the USA but owners of them in the UK are normally chavs with tattoos, on the dole and who say things like 'i'd kill for my kids' while strutting round the council estate with a beast that would do just that. Normally they give the dog a name like Tyson, demon or lucifer, bit of a give-away really.
    I would rather not get into the pit bull debate, but there are also hundreds of sites stating the pit bull is not the demon many think. They were used for fighting because of their physical strength and overall stature and head shape, but they had to be trained to fight. Anyway, there were about 4 other dogs poisoned on the same day, which leads me to believe it was young donothing Thais.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog View Post
    Quite a lot of melodrama here from farang drama queens

    My wife had a few of her dogs and cats die during her moobarn years.

    Its not hells angels hepped-up on speedballs, nor alien extermination.

    Its simply villagers putting down poison - usually to tackle vermin such as rats. The moo barn pets wander round innocently - often into the yards of neighbours and consume it.

    My dogs never "wandered". They were kept within our block walls and our steel gate was locked at night, so this theory does not hold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rupert Wanger
    happened to one of the posters on TD (CMN) a while back.
    What dog? Not Inzie, The one he got from us?

    Sorry to hear about your dogs, Rick. Very, very common in Thailand. PP is right. The Thais that favour this method reckon that by dropping poison, they are not killing the dog. It is the dog's "choice" or karma to take it. So, the dog is the one guilty of taking the life, not they. As for the reason? Who knows? I doubt it was for kicks. Local dogs barking and them just poisoning any dog, not caring if it was the guilty party or planned burglary would be most likely. Horrific death. I've sadly seen it many times

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    There was this thread recently too: http://teakdoor.com/living-in-thaila...-thailand.html (Dog Poisoning Thailand)

    Very sad. I'm really sorry to hear that, Rick.

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    If they weren't chronic barkers and never chased people (or attacked someone else's cat or dog), than it does seem that they were killed either out of spite; or more likely, because someone wants to eventually try and rob you sometime in the future.

    Losing a good dog like losing your best friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by natalie8 View Post
    There was this thread recently too: http://teakdoor.com/living-in-thaila...-thailand.html (Dog Poisoning Thailand)

    Very sad. I'm really sorry to hear that, Rick.

    This was an interesting thread to read. There were a lot of different perspectives. Some I agreed with while others, I did not. There were plenty of comments against dog owners who let their dogs free range, which I agree with. I never let me pit bull off our property and often he was chained up even if the gate was closed. The small dog was more my wife's and she let him roam, which I did not agree with but felt it was her decision. I do believe that keeping your dogs fenced in on your own property shows respect for the neighbors and is less hazardous for the dog.

    There seems to be more dog poisonings in Thailand than what I am used to, which is one of the problems. The overall attitude toward dogs in Thailand is also hard for me to understand. Yes, they are a poor people with very little education, but that does not explain how a practicing Buddhist would kill as easy as they do. I also think their religion teaches not to cause sorrow or unhappiness to others. It is really a contradiction in terms when so many dogs are poisoned in this country. I am not sure if I will ever truly understand the culture.

    My advice to dog owners is to build a big wall around your property and do not allow your dogs to wander outside its boundaries. Bring them in at night and be aware of their whereabouts. You almost have to treat them as kids to protect them from harm. Too bad this environment exists, but it is fact that after the sun goes down, you're dogs are not really "safe" in Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Yes, they are a poor people with very little education, but that does not explain how a practicing Buddhist would kill as easy as they do. I also think their religion teaches not to cause sorrow or unhappiness to others.
    The bible teaches 'thou shalt not kill', but it doesn't stop the 'Christian' West doing it.

    They may be 'Buddhist' (kind of) but the overriding theme is their culture is stupidity & laziness.

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    The bible teaches 'thou shalt not kill', but it doesn't stop the 'Christian' West doing it.


    Good point Marmite....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Norton, since you found out who did the poisoning, did you do anything with that information?
    No need. Shortly after the poisoning, the restaurant had an unfortunate incident. Around 2AM, bottled gas leak exploded and burned down the place. Som Nam Na.

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    That will teach them to mess with the White folk's dogs.

    We are serious about our mutts!

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    Rick, that is a sad and shocking story. I am sorry for your loss. The same thing happened to me some years ago with a dog I have brought from the UK. I can empathise.

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    Thank you Bowzer. I think most people find it something that should not happen. It is just too bad some Thais don't feel the same way. There is no consequence to poisoning dogs in Thailand and that might send a message that it is OK. Totally wrong in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
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    Norton, since you found out who did the poisoning, did you do anything with that information?
    No need. Shortly after the poisoning, the restaurant had an unfortunate incident. Around 2AM, bottled gas leak exploded and burned down the place. Som Nam Na.
    Smart of you to wipe your fingerprints off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by natalie8 View Post
    There was this thread recently too: http://teakdoor.com/living-in-thaila...-thailand.html (Dog Poisoning Thailand)

    Very sad. I'm really sorry to hear that, Rick.

    This was an interesting thread to read. There were a lot of different perspectives. Some I agreed with while others, I did not. There were plenty of comments against dog owners who let their dogs free range, which I agree with. I never let me pit bull off our property and often he was chained up even if the gate was closed. The small dog was more my wife's and she let him roam, which I did not agree with but felt it was her decision. I do believe that keeping your dogs fenced in on your own property shows respect for the neighbors and is less hazardous for the dog.

    There seems to be more dog poisonings in Thailand than what I am used to, which is one of the problems. The overall attitude toward dogs in Thailand is also hard for me to understand. Yes, they are a poor people with very little education, but that does not explain how a practicing Buddhist would kill as easy as they do. I also think their religion teaches not to cause sorrow or unhappiness to others. It is really a contradiction in terms when so many dogs are poisoned in this country. I am not sure if I will ever truly understand the culture.

    My advice to dog owners is to build a big wall around your property and do not allow your dogs to wander outside its boundaries. Bring them in at night and be aware of their whereabouts. You almost have to treat them as kids to protect them from harm. Too bad this environment exists, but it is fact that after the sun goes down, you're dogs are not really "safe" in Thailand.
    Well said, Rick. Iíve poisoned a few dogs around my farm and have no sympathy for them or their owners who choose to inflict their pet on others, and who were pre-warned, especially when one personís pet can often be a destroyer of anotherís peace and property. But I genuinely extend my sympathy to you since you appear to have been a responsible dog owner who took the necessary steps to ensure your dogs were not a nuisance to others.

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    IMO nobody who buys a pitt bull is responsible:

    Are Pit Bulls Dangerous | Dog Bite Statistics | LiveScience

    Even the U.S. Army has acknowledged that pit bulls are high-risk dogs; they are therefore prohibited in some military housing units.

    Pit bulls join several other breeds on the list of dogs that are recognized as more likely to attack and cause significant injury: The Centeres for Disease Control and Prevention analyzed data and found the following breeds are implicated in a majority of dog-bite fatalities:

    Pit bulls
    Rottweilers
    German shepherds
    Huskies
    Wolf hybrids
    Malamutes
    Doberman pinschers
    Chow-chows
    Saint Bernards
    Great Danes
    It's worth noting that no matter how these data are arranged — mixed breeds versus pure breeds, injuries versus fatalities — pit bulls consistently rank at the top of the list for attacks, and by a wide margin. (Rottweilers generally rank a distant second.)


    Sure there are sites that want you to believe Pitt Bulls have an undeserved rep and that they are more likely to lick your face off than rip it off, but the stats prove otherwise. These dogs have been bred for one thing only-agression. Of course nobody owning one will agree. They do not have to be trained to fight, they are naturally highly aggressive and dangerous, that's why people buy them in the first place.
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