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MeMock · 27-12-2006, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

does anyone know?

i think the pose is called 'taking a piss'

kingwilly · 27-12-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Ok, I found the little chap, lovingly wrapped in some silk from Vietnam.

He's an old one from Bali that a friend of mine gave to me recently. He's also one of a pair. I'm not sure what the official name for his pose is; does anyone know?

you are going to hell for that!

klongmaster · 27-12-2006, 09:35 AM

Thanks for the info TW...oh, and I think MtD is taking the piss here...

dirtydog · 27-12-2006, 04:52 PM

I have a similar one to marmites, although mine came from Belguim, didn't realise they were Buddhists there.

Marmite the Dog · 27-12-2006, 08:42 PM

I'm not taking the piss. A Dutch friend of mine gave the statue to me a couple of months ago and told me it was a bronze Balinese Buddha.

I have had a look on the internet and found a bit of info about a warrior-god called a 'bima'.

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The temple is small in comparison to other temples in this region. The most significant part of this temple is a huge wooden shelter. It stands out in its height and that’s because it houses the four metre giant statue of the Pejeng Giant. This interesting statue has snakes seemingly curling around its ankles and wrists. The most prominent feature of the statue is its well-endowed and realistic penis. There is a lot of debate regarding whether or not this ‘giant’ is actually a demon or a God. It is said that it could be a Bima (a warrior-lover). However, its dating is around the 13th or 14th C, and again, there is debate as to its influent creation. Some Archaeologists state that it was either by Shivaite or Tantric Bhuddist cults or factions. Interestingly, the giant is flanked by two ‘raksasa’ (Hindu mythical giants) threateningly decorated with skulls.

Legend: The Giant or Bima had immense desires for a woman. However, his rather large penis was too large for her and subsequently the woman took another lover. Bima , at one point in time, found the couple copulating and immediately set out to stomp them to death out of anger.

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I suppose I should ask my mate.

Marmite the Dog · 27-12-2006, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kingwillyhggtb

you are going to hell for that!

I think that would be well down on the going to hell list...

stroller · 27-12-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

a bit of info about a warrior-god called a 'bima'.

Your statue looks more like a baby, the elongated ear-lobes indicate nobility, the third eye and hair enlightenment.

Marmite the Dog · 27-12-2006, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stroller

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

a bit of info about a warrior-god called a 'bima'.

Your statue looks more like a baby, the elongated ear-lobes indicate nobility, the third eye and hair enlightenment.

So, it could be a juvenille Buddha?

stroller · 27-12-2006, 10:20 PM

Yes, could be, I have a crawling baby-Buddha from India (well, I was told it's Buddha, I'm not an expert), but I haven't seen anything like yours before.

klongmaster · 28-12-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I'm not taking the piss.

apologies then MtD and makes me feel much better about you posting that here...thought it was in poor taste if you were just piss-taking...

TW said already that the Buddha is generally covered having subjugated his carnal lusts...this thing looks like some weirdos fantasy...you sure its not early Piccaso?...I went to the Picasso museum in Paris and thought what a perverted old twat he was...copious drawings of his mistresses nether regions and many sculptures just like the one in your pic...

hey MtD you could be rich man...

Curious George · 28-12-2006, 09:13 PM

^ Did Picasso sign his works? TW and I found many 'Baby Buddha' images pictured on the Internet. All were clothed, even when being bathed. The most popular were standing with one hand at the side, and one raised. Unless pictures were reversed, the raised arm could be either left or right. Should TW ask a Monk for information? It really would be interesting to find the whole story behind MtD's statue.

Marmite the Dog · 29-12-2006, 06:38 AM

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Should TW ask a Monk for information?

It would be interesting. Do you need any more pics, or is the one I posted ok?

Thai Wife · 29-12-2006, 09:14 PM

^Today, I go to my local temple (Wat Mongkolratanaram) to help prepare for the New Years Day celebration. In the US, feeding the Monks on New Years Day is very important, and brings many people.

While I'm at the Wat, I will see if I can get information about Baby Buddha. I don't need more pictures of your 'baby' statue, since I will describe what you have. I don't know how many Monks will be around today, or how knowledgeable, but I will try.

Thai Wife · 30-12-2006, 07:09 AM

^ All of the knowledgeable Monks were very busy today. I did not even have a chance to discuss Dhamma with anyone of them. I will try again in the next few days.

Marmite the Dog · 30-12-2006, 02:49 PM

No hurry. I wont see that little fella for a few days as I am on a 4 day binge in Bangkok, as is the tradition for New Year in the West.

Thai Wife · 02-01-2007, 09:02 AM

I have more information, but it will take some time to put together. Briefly, it seems your statue is an artistic image, and not the kind to worship. All information I found shows a young Buddha image with clothes....

Bung · 03-01-2007, 09:53 AM

Here's Mrs Bung's spot. She took over a whole corner of he house but she is right into it, putting fresh flowers and praying everyday. She has a nice collection of stuff. I added a fossil I found while building the house and the teak carving has now been put on the wall above it (very securely!)

Marmite the Dog · 03-01-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Thai Wife

Briefly, it seems your statue is an artistic image, and not the kind to worship.

That's probably just as well.

stroller · 06-01-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Thai Wife

Briefly, it seems your statue is an artistic image, and not the kind to worship. All information I found shows a young Buddha image with clothes....

I think so too.
I am intrigued by this statue, and have some further thoughts: There have been hardly any Buddhists in Bali for several centuries, it's predominantly Hindu, and I never heard of any bronze-castings done in Bali, neighbouring Java is known for this, and most of the bronzes for sale in Bali originate there. Java has been predominantly Muslim for centuries.

Now, just a guess, could it be that the similarities of the statue to the "mannekin piss" statue is no coincidence? Perhaps the Dutch colonisers inspired or commissioned a Buddha version, as a curiousity?

Marmite the Dog · 06-01-2007, 07:19 PM

I did ask the Dutch dude who gave it to me, but I've yet to have a reply. Fingers crossed.

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27-12-2006, 09:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
klongmaster Thailand Forum Last Online: Today 05:44 PM Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Nonthaburi Posts: 3,842	Thanks for the info TW...oh, and I think MtD is taking the piss here...

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Thai Wife Koh Chang Last Online: 28-11-2008 12:37 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 73	^ All of the knowledgeable Monks were very busy today. I did not even have a chance to discuss Dhamma with anyone of them. I will try again in the next few days.

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Marmite the Dog ผู้เชี่ยวชาญเปล่า Last Online: Today 05:49 PM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Simian Islands Posts: 30,327	No hurry. I wont see that little fella for a few days as I am on a 4 day binge in Bangkok, as is the tradition for New Year in the West.

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Thai Wife Koh Chang Last Online: 28-11-2008 12:37 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 73	I have more information, but it will take some time to put together. Briefly, it seems your statue is an artistic image, and not the kind to worship. All information I found shows a young Buddha image with clothes....

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Marmite the Dog ผู้เชี่ยวชาญเปล่า Last Online: Today 05:49 PM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Simian Islands Posts: 30,327	I did ask the Dutch dude who gave it to me, but I've yet to have a reply. Fingers crossed.

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