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    Bangkok Then And Now (1984-2011)

    Firstly I have to stress, these are not my pics, I did not take any of them.

    I've mentioned my colleague Grumpy Bill before, these are his and as a long time TD lurker he is happy to share them with you. The first pictures are taken in 1984. Last weekend he went out and tried to take a picture from the same spot. I have deduced from looking at these pics that Bill is a foot shorter now that he was then.

    The first picture is a legendary building.... Kanit House, home to Charles Sobhraj. It has now been demolished. We know he lived on the top floor and had two adjacent apartments.

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    The second pic is the Montien Hotel on Surawongse. Not much changed here at all

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    Taken standing in Patpong 1. Looking at it now, he's in slightly the wrong location. You can see the Goldfingers sign minus the Singha Beer addition further down the soi. Soma dditional storeys have been added to one of the buildings. We think the tall building at the end of the soi is the same but has been refurbished.

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    Next we have Patpong 1 taken from the surawongse end. Again the large building on the left side we think is the same building which has been refurbished and reclad. In 1984 there were several airlines along here, KLM can be seen in the right forground and in later pics we will JAL and Saudi Airlines. I also remember coming to Thai Airways on Silom years ago.

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    Great pix.

    Harold Stephens once bemoaned that why he first went to Bkk decades ago he took the usual photos of temples and Buddhas, (which are still there), but wishes that he'd simply turned around and taken pictures of the street life and ordinary buildings.

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    The next pic is taken on Silom on the corner of Soi Sala Daeng looking South. The building in the foreground hasn't changed much at all. Of course the big addition is the Sky Train on the right of the picture.

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    I have many many pictures like this, particularly in Phuket. Sadly my negatives are all in storage and I won't be able to access them until I return to the UK and take possession of my house.....

    Grumpy Bill has been working through these pics and has many many more to go......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    The first picture is a legendary building.... Kanit House, home to Charles Sobhraj. It has now been demolished. We know he lived on the top floor and had two adjacent apartments.
    That psycho married a 20 year old Nepalese girl a few years ago. I am waiting to read that he escaped from prison again.

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    Nice thread Bob and I have a lot of memories of Bangkok then and now especially where I lived around the Onnut/ Pravait area. It went from a huge quite rice paddy into a overcrowded mess.

    I especially remember being on the corner of Asoke and Sukhumvit at about 3 in the morning, the Seafood market on the corner with the big Neon sign.

    How that area has changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chitown
    That psycho married a 20 year old Nepalese girl a few years ago. I am waiting to read that he escaped from prison again.
    [sarcasm]he's great isn't he, one of the worlds great characters....[/sarcasm]

    He definately looks like he could be DJ Pat's father....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chitown
    That psycho married a 20 year old Nepalese girl a few years ago. I am waiting to read that he escaped from prison again.
    [sarcasm]he's great isn't he, one of the worlds great characters....[/sarcasm]

    He definately looks like he could be DJ Pat's father....
    I could see that - Charles spinning a few records with his long lost son




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    This is taken on Surawongse looking North from opposite Patpong One. You can see Pink Panther Bar on the corner of Patpong 2. How quaint that they have added a yellow box onto the floor to go with the zebra crossing so they have a choice of which to ignore....

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    From the same location. Note the second building on the left was being constructed at the time. Good view of the shitty old taxis of the day. Few and far between I never ever used one. In those days tuk tuk drivers were considered more trustworthy.

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    Interesting pictures, especially since I spent a fair amount of time in Patpong between 1984-86. I didn't see myself in any the the shots, so I guess I am safe at the moment.
    Seriously, I did take some pics of my trips during that time and if I can find them, I will post a few.

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    Last one for a while, Bill will work on these whilst I am away and I'll add more when I return.

    This one needs no 'now'. It would be impossible to stand where this was taken.

    This is the Intercontinental Hotel on Rama 1 which was also used in a Stickman picture contest recently. It was knocked down in 2002 so they could build Siam Paragon. The white building on the left is where the actual rooms were, the interesting structure being just a reception area / restaurants. I remember going in there to meet a friend in 2000 and being very disappointed with the room quality. Did well to knock it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    Taken standing in Patpong 1. Looking at it now, he's in slightly the wrong location. You can see the Goldfingers sign minus the Singha Beer addition further down the soi. Soma dditional storeys have been added to one of the buildings. We think the tall building at the end of the soi is the same but has been refurbished.

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    It was only last night that I was sat at a table and we were trying to figure out when the United Center (Building in the background) went up. The furthest back anyone at the table could remember was 1992 and they said it was there then.

    So it must have gone up between 1984 and 1992.

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    ^ Funny how the Bond movie theme still persists, Pussy Galore in '84 and Gold Finger's in the latter.

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    Sadly Patpong is dying and seems to be a mere shell of what it was just 6 years ago, when I first came here. Many of the bars have closed, the girls in those that are still open now wear full bikini tops and bottoms while dancing and the numbers of white male foreigners have gone down to a fraction of what it was.
    Then there's the mentality which says we have fewer customers so we need to thoroughly rip off those few we still have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    The first pictures are taken in 1984. Last weekend he went out and tried to take a picture from the same spot.
    I have a book that does just that. (currently forget the name, it might be something as obvious as Bangokok then and now.

    Love the concept.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    I have many many pictures like this, particularly in Phuket. Sadly my negatives are all in storage and I won't be able to access them until I return to the UK and take possession of my house.....
    Please do.

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    Last one for a while, Bill will work on these whilst I am away and I'll add more when I return.
    Tell Bill thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Sadly Patpong is dying and seems to be a mere shell of what it was just 6 years ago, when I first came here. Many of the bars have closed, the girls in those that are still open now wear full bikini tops and bottoms while dancing and the numbers of white male foreigners have gone down to a fraction of what it was.
    Why is that sad ? Is that all Bangkok is to you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    This one needs no 'now'. It would be impossible to stand where this was taken.
    Take one standing slightly back from that location, (or one from the skytrain station overlooking it. Still worth the pic imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post
    Sadly Patpong is dying and seems to be a mere shell of what it was just 6 years ago...
    You gotta go back further than that like to when the Mississippi Queen closed down.

    The Vibe in Patpong changed around that time...

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    I love these kinds of pictures. More please!

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    Thanks Grumpy Bill, for the photo`s, and Thanks Bobcock for taking the time, and anyone else who contributes. Looking forward to more.

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    I've arrived in Wales.... Had an email from Bill already telling me he is working on more..... Probably have more ready when I return on the 10th.

    Btw Saw the Burg Khalifa in Dubai earlier, just a short while after take-off, it is fucking incredible. I've seen many of the worlds tallest buildings, but that was breathtaking even from a distance.

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    Nice pics Bob, apart from Sobrhaj

    He's a fukkin serial killer,I hope he rots in hell.

    I never understood the fascination with scum. If it was your family would you buy the books ?

    But he lives on through Pat's music, so i hear

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