Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 51 to 75 of 77
  1. #51
    Thailand Expat
    redhaze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Just south of Uranus
    Posts
    2,877
    Quote Originally Posted by katie23
    And what of me, or people like me? I am a tourist, but I don't stay in flash hotels. But yes,I prefer the company of other tourists or travelers, like in the hostels/guesthouses/hotels that I've stayed in. Sometimes I travel with.company, but I can also travel alone. My situation is not unique, as there are other young professionals, sometimes Asian, sometimes not, who travel when their time & budget allow it. The ones with day jobs, who visit temples, museums & churches, rivers & mountains too.There are museums too in the east - they're not lumited to the west. I travel with a backpack, not a suitcase, but I'm not a long-term, dreadlocked backpacker. I prefer to call myself a budget traveler.
    Its not all hard and fast, and all arbitrary.

    I would classify you as a tourist based on the description. But then again, I see a lot of the long term, dreadlocked backpackers as some of the biggest tourists I've ever met. They are there to socialize with their own kind. That to me is really what defines a tourist. Cursory immersion into the place they are, with no real desire to intermingle with the locals to any extent other than a purely transactional basis.

  2. #52
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last Online
    Today @ 11:10 AM
    Posts
    35,267
    I see Katie as a traveller...

  3. #53
    Thailand Expat
    redhaze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Just south of Uranus
    Posts
    2,877
    Fair enough, its all based on arbitrary criteria. Any reason(s) in particular?

  4. #54
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last Online
    Today @ 11:10 AM
    Posts
    35,267
    Katie's educated and smart...She knows the ropes and language(s), to boot...

    Can be on the road in a flash, does her research, is open and friendly with those she meets...

    Part of your definition about not mingling with the people doesn't seem like Katie, to me...

    But you're right...To each his/her own...

    I like the sound of "traveller" much better than "tourist"...

    A tourist seems like a ghost that never materializes...

    The word traveller is often accompanied by the word seasoned...

    Don't often hear of "seasoned tourists"...

  5. #55
    Thailand Expat
    Sumbitch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Online
    13-09-2017 @ 03:03 PM
    Location
    Chiang Mai
    Posts
    5,596
    ^ Hear, Hear!!! There, There!!!

  6. #56
    Thailand Expat
    katie23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    PI
    Posts
    3,060
    ^heh...

    Here, there and everywhere (cue in the Beatles)

    As I've said, my situation is not unique, as I've read many blogs about the travels of ppl who have day jobs & travel during their spare time. I've also several colleagues who travel during their breaks - young professionals. The abubdance of promos, budget airlines, info on the net, word-of-mouth, social media - make it easier to travel for leisure nowadays, than 10-20 years ago.

    Yes, I interact w/ locals & try to learn a few words of the language, wherever I am. I think that's basic politeness 101 & travel skills 102.

    Sigh... it was a very busy week, but the work-week is not yet over for me. I'm looking forward to my touristic travel in a few months! And a hike in a few weeks!

    Btw, not all tourists have lots of money - there are budget tourists & budget travelers. SE Asia is full of them. Not all dreadlocked backpackers. I've met Singaporean, Japanese, Vietnamese, etc, short term backpackers/travellers who also have day jobs. Cheers!


  7. #57
    Thailand Expat
    katie23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    PI
    Posts
    3,060
    Btw, in my research (aka blog-reading), I've read abt sexpackers. Backpackers who hook up with others of their kind in hostels. Some of them "earn" plus points or extra notches if they shag a local in that continent, e.g. a Thai in Asia, a Colombian in S. America, a French in Europe, etc. And some of them do it in odd places around the hostel. Lol

    Not that I've witnessed any of it first-hand. Just read about it. Heh.

    I think it was the blog of nomadicmatt. He's a digital nomad, and his blog is very informative. Google it, if interested.

  8. #58
    Suspended from News & Speakers Corner
    Chico's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Last Online
    16-11-2017 @ 08:10 PM
    Location
    I'm Dead
    Posts
    2,715
    Travellers have a nomadic lifestyle,and have no fixed address.

  9. #59
    Member John Lennon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    On the outside looking in
    Posts
    547
    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Travellers have a nomadic lifestyle,and have no fixed address.
    Best response to date.

  10. #60
    Thailand Expat
    redhaze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Just south of Uranus
    Posts
    2,877
    That probably makes us all tourists. What with our internet connections

  11. #61
    Thailand Expat
    Phuketrichard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Last Online
    Today @ 09:23 AM
    Location
    Phuket
    Posts
    1,199
    Quote Originally Posted by Sumbitch View Post
    It's a question of semantics I think. A tourist will stay in good hotels and visit temples (in the east) or museums (in the west) and prefers the company of other tourists whereas a traveler attempts to immerse herself in the local culture and pursues activities that brings him in contact with the native people. Then the difference between travelers and tourists is the amount of money spent during their journeys and the kind of activities they pursue, innit?

    I look at it this way,
    a tourist travels to see things, experience new places, eat new foods, does not matter how he does it ( by land, air, train) or if he stays in 1 star or 4 star place

    A traveler travels to travel, not just going somewhere on a list to do or see a specific thing or place.



    “Sal, we gotta go and never stop going 'till we get there.'
    'Where we going, man?'
    'I don't know but we gotta go.”
    Jack Kerouac, On the Road


    Has NOTHING to do with money
    "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol or insanity, but they've always worked for me" HST

    View my pics

  12. #62
    Thailand Expat cyrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Chiang Mai
    Posts
    9,880
    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    the blog of nomadicmatt. He's a digital nomad



  13. #63
    Thailand Expat
    sabang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Last Online
    Today @ 05:14 PM
    Location
    There
    Posts
    30,376
    Quote Originally Posted by Chico
    Travellers have a nomadic lifestyle,and have no fixed address.
    Travellers are usually on their gap year, being subsidised by their parents, and their fixed address (according to their passport details) is usually their parents home.

  14. #64
    Thailand Expat cyrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Chiang Mai
    Posts
    9,880
    Nomad:



    Digital Nomachiato:


  15. #65
    Thailand Expat
    redhaze's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Just south of Uranus
    Posts
    2,877
    "Will start law school in six months"

  16. #66
    Thailand Expat
    katie23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    PI
    Posts
    3,060
    @cyrillev- lol on that

    In defense of digital nomads (particularly nomadicmatt), their travel blogs are very useful. From matt's blog, I've read some tips abt solo female travelling - articles were written by a guest female blogger. I've also followed a travelling couple (young Merkins) who also had a popular blog - I've used info frm their blogs for my travels. From his bio, Matt had a day job, saved up, took a gap period to travel. Then became a TEFL for a while. Then became a full time travel blogger. Almost same story with the young Merkin couple - they saved up to fund their backpacking trip around the world. Then blogged about it and earned money from blogging & other online stuff. They're not dreadlocked backpackers either. If theu can earn money from blogging & travelling, then good on them! Not all backpackers (lomg term or short term) come from rich, priviledged backgrounds. Not all are soap dodgers either - some of them look & smell neat/clean.

    In my Laos hostel, I had a very nice convo with an Argentinian lady. She was a young journalist who took a break from work to travel in Asia. I think some of you guys are too desensitized to the Khao San hippie type of backpacker - there are other types of backpackers or travellers around. Cheers.

    Sorry for typos, am on fone

  17. #67
    Thailand Expat cyrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Chiang Mai
    Posts
    9,880
    Fair enough katie.

    Just look at that first picture though.

    Don't you think the term 'digital nomad' is ridiculous?

    I get that these days it's possible to subsidise or even fully fund your travels with blogging.

    And yes, some of them do look very neat and clean.

  18. #68
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last Online
    Today @ 11:10 AM
    Posts
    35,267
    The word "backpacker" never made sense to me...We all pack a bag of some sort...

    Some even carry "baggage" they can't run from...Heh...

    A small bag of "clothes" on wheels where the wheels rotate...You can kick it along "the trail" in front of you while shouldering your "communication bag" and drinking a hot coffee...

  19. #69
    Newbie
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Posts
    48
    a traveller is a tourist with their head up their arse.

  20. #70
    Thailand Expat
    katie23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    PI
    Posts
    3,060
    ^^^if the word 'digital nomad' is ridiculous, then so are the words flashpacker, glamping, tweet (on twitter), to friend/unfriend/unlike... and all other newfangled words (or meanings) in this digital age. Language evolves, and so do nomads, digital or not.

    Re: language, as I kid I had to memorize the poem, The Owl and the Pussycat. I didn't know the other connotation of 'pussy' then. Then some years ago, my nephew had to memorize the same poem. When he said the lines, 'Oh pussycat, pussy my love', I couldn't help but chuckle. My nephew asked me, 'what's funny, auntie?' So I had to calm down & keep my chuckles to myself. Lol.

    Anyway, sorry for the detour. Carry on - traveller, tourist - same same but different!
    Last edited by katie23; 18-02-2017 at 01:28 PM. Reason: added ^^^

  21. #71
    Thailand Expat
    Sumbitch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Online
    13-09-2017 @ 03:03 PM
    Location
    Chiang Mai
    Posts
    5,596
    Quote Originally Posted by Phuketrichard View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sumbitch View Post
    It's a question of semantics I think. A tourist will stay in good hotels and visit temples (in the east) or museums (in the west) and prefers the company of other tourists whereas a traveler attempts to immerse herself in the local culture and pursues activities that brings him in contact with the native people. Then the difference between travelers and tourists is the amount of money spent during their journeys and the kind of activities they pursue, innit?

    I look at it this way,
    a tourist travels to see things, experience new places, eat new foods, does not matter how he does it ( by land, air, train) or if he stays in 1 star or 4 star place

    A traveler travels to travel, not just going somewhere on a list to do or see a specific thing or place.



    “Sal, we gotta go and never stop going 'till we get there.'
    'Where we going, man?'
    'I don't know but we gotta go.”
    Jack Kerouac, On the Road


    Has NOTHING to do with money
    Hey fucktard, I diss agreen to you.


  22. #72
    Thailand Expat cyrille's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    Chiang Mai
    Posts
    9,880
    They are the same, yes, absolutely.

    The tourist has just come to terms rather better with his or her place in the scheme of things.

  23. #73
    Thailand Expat

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Last Online
    Today @ 11:10 AM
    Posts
    35,267
    ^ Wow...That's heavy, man...

  24. #74
    Fresh Seaman CaptainNemo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Last Online
    10-12-2017 @ 06:08 PM
    Location
    in t' naughty lass
    Posts
    5,123
    Quote Originally Posted by John Lennon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Travellers have a nomadic lifestyle,and have no fixed address.
    Best response to date.
    A traveller?


    A traveller?


    A traveller?

  25. #75
    Thailand Expat
    Scottish Gary's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Last Online
    04-12-2017 @ 01:54 AM
    Location
    Between The Moon And New York City
    Posts
    1,207
    Certainly from a British perspective most travellers are kids from wealthy families who are spending a year partying around SE Asia before they go to University. They despise the locals of every country they go to and only want to be with other travellers. They live in constant fear of getting ripped off hence the total mistrust of anyone who is not exactly the same as themselves. They will only visit places if they know there will be hundreds of other travellers there.
    Tourists on the other hand tend to be more blue collar usually having a two or three week break in the sunshine before going back to work. They tend to stay in the same resort and like travellers have as little to do with the locals as possible. They will only drink in British style bars, watch British football on the TV and eat British style food...Constantly drunk they may get violent when provoked
    Last edited by Scottish Gary; 29-04-2017 at 04:17 PM.

Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •