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    She probably flew out on a harrier jump jet with captain Poodles

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    ^^ To leave the door open for traditional self-imposed exile. Solves a problem the same way it has for many other powerful people in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    A good result for the junta.
    But. How are they gonna avoid an electrion now?

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    Hardly surprising, and hardly without high level collusion.

    So now Thailand effectively has it's popularly elected government in exile. Most interesting.

    Whither Thailand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    But. How are they gonna avoid an electrion now?
    A few minor bombings mightn't go astray.

    Perhaps an empty Military Hospital ward or something.

    In the name of what's best for the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Why wasn't her passport confiscated and not put under 24 hour surveillance?
    apparently she was, but she managed to escape

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^^ To leave the door open for traditional self-imposed exile. Solves a problem the same way it has for many other powerful people in the past.
    Yep.
    Kind of their round about way of giving her a green light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Hardly surprising, and hardly without high level collusion.

    So now Thailand effectively has it's popularly elected government in exile. Most interesting.

    Whither Thailand?

    So, nothing really has changed significantly in the last several decades.
    Same old ruling influence.


    Same as it ever was.

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    Interpol alerted to help track down Yingluck

    The Thai Interpol has sought cooperation from its counterparts in 190 countries to help track down former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra, said Pol Gen Srivara Rangsipromnakul on Monday.

    Meanwhile, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha admitted security lapse for Ms Yingluck’s successful exit without the notice of security officials, but he begged critics and members of the public not to blame the officials, claiming that this has happened before on various occasions.

    He admitted that he had no idea about which channel that Ms Yingluck managed to sneak out of the country without being noticed.

    He noted that Thailand has more than 5,000 kilometre long natural borderline with neighbouring countries and it is difficult for officials concerned to monitor the long borderline 100 percent.

    The prime minister, however, said he had instructed the Foreign Ministry to coordinate with foreign governments to help locate the whereabouts of Ms Yingluck who was reported to plan to seek political asylum in Britain.

    Pol Gen Srivara on Monday held a meeting with senior police officers to discuss the whereabouts of Ms Yingluck and how to locate her.

    He said the former prime minister was last seen on August 23 and he admitted that police could not watch her all the time.

    He added that he had instructed police to locate Pol Col Watunyu Wittayapalothai, Yingluck’s bodyguard, and to find out whether he is still in police service.

    Interpol alerted to help track down Yingluck - Thai PBS English News

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    Thailand's Yingluck fled at the 'last minute' fearing harsh sentence, say aides

    BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand’s former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra kneeled before a row of saffron-robed Buddhist monks last Wednesday as she offered them fruits and sticky rice soaked in coconut milk and logan juice, a specialty from her northern region.

    At the auspicious hour of 9 a.m. she released fish at the Temple of the Bells near Bangkok’s Chaophraya river, a practice Thai Buddhists believe brings good karma.

    At that point, aides say they believed she still intended to appear on Friday for sentencing in the criminal negligence case brought by Thailand’s junta over a costly rice subsidy scheme. Within about a day, she had left the country.

    “She chose to leave because she heard from her sources that the court would give her a heavy sentence and would not grant her bail,” said one source close to Yingluck. “She’s not a last minute person. She always plans things very carefully. This was a last-minute decision.”

    Yingluck fled with two aides but left her only son, Supasek Amornchat, 15, behind in Thailand, the source said.

    Another aide, who had worked with Yingluck for a decade, said that she was gone by Thursday afternoon.

    Yingluck, whose government was ousted in a 2014 coup, went to Dubai, where her brother former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has a home, via Singapore, aides and other sources in her Puea Thai Party told Reuters.

    Reuters was not able to contact Yingluck. An aide for Thaksin in Dubai said she was not authorized to speak to the media.

    DOOR LEFT OPEN?

    Exactly how Yingluck escaped from Thailand remains a mystery.

    At 10:55 am on Thursday, she posted one last time on her Facebook page in a message that apologized to her supporters for being unable to greet them at court because of heightened security, but at the same time implied she would show up.

    Even some of Yingluck’s closest aides said they were not aware how she left the country.

    Deputy national police chief General Srivara Ransibrahmanakul said police intelligence showed Yingluck was at her Bangkok home at least up until 2 p.m. on Wednesday.

    It was not clear why the police had information up to that point but not beyond.

    The junta has denied leaving a door open for Yingluck to escape - solving a problem for Thailand’s generals concerned that if she was imprisoned she would become a martyr - but both her supporters and enemies have questioned whether she had official help.

    Sources in the Puea Thai Party said she fled first to Cambodia - a route often used by Thai opposition figures in the past as the border is porous and it is less than four hours drive from Bangkok.

    Thai media have said she took a private jet from Cambodia to Singapore and then on to Dubai.

    Cambodia's Prime Minister Hun Sen denied on Sunday that Yingluck used Cambodia as part of her escape route.

    By 9:40 a.m. on Friday morning, the Supreme Court had issued an arrest warrant for Yingluck, saying it did not think Yingluck was ill with an ear problem as her team claimed. She had pleaded not guilty to the charge, which carried a sentence of up to 10 years.

    Hours after the verdict against Yingluck had been due, the court sentenced her former commerce minister in a related case to 42 years in prison. He was denied bail pending appeal because it was too late in the day. Seventeen other people were given sentences of between 4-48 years in the case.

    Lieutenant General Werachai Indusobhana, commander of the Terrestrial Defence Command, told reporters on Monday that Yingluck's son Supasek showed up for student officer training on Saturday as required for Thai male students of his age.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...-idUSKCN1B80TR

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit
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    Should've added a bit "extra" for Yingluck...Seems like she was simply beamed up...

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    That doesn't look good for Yingluck, fleeing like this when she said she would stand for trial...but well maybe she felt that the court were biased, or when made aware of the verdict in advance she decided that principles were good but not good enough to spend jail time for them?

    I would like to have some inputs from her about why and how she flew away (don't expect a scoop thought)

    Now the Junta can say "See, she flew, that means she was guilty/corrupt", and they haven't have to cope with the consequences of her incarceration. The drawbacks for them are that it shows they couldn't prevent her from fleeing despite being closely monitored. Worst this close monitoring that failed leave the door open to allegations like she was helped by authorities etc
    The effort to take her back will be compared with other current and past cases which for authorities effort to get them were at the very best inefficient...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farang Ky Ay
    .but well maybe she felt that the court were biased, or when made aware of the verdict in advance she decided that principles were good but not good enough to spend jail time for them?
    Of course she got news of the verdict and that she was to be locked up that day. Get outa Dodge girl is exactly what happened. Not a Shinawat fan, but this was a railroad job from the beginning.

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    Much of the above makes sense, but matters less what we think than what Thais think, and more important what they're going to do about it against people that own not just the guns but also the media, a third world mentality and very thick skins.

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    I think she and the military made a deal on Wednesday. All that has been said since she fled is BS. The same when Thaksin fled. A deal is made. There's no way she could flee without the military's approval. For example look at Julian Assange. He can't escape the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. No she had to make a deal. I bet you won't here a word from her for at least a couple of months. Part of the deal would be to keep quiet or your family in Thailand will be harrassed. Yep, Her and Thaksin will be on low profile for the moment.

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    An alleged deal is indeed possible as the Junta is well able to monitor political activists that dare to stand against their rule with regular home visits (their homes and those of their relatives), "invite" them for a talk/attitude adjustment session, restrict their moves etc... Good point also Wilson with the threat of harassment of the relatives let behind, that could indeed keep things in the dark...

    Yes Jabir Thai people's take on this story is the most important stake...will it changes the outcome of future election ? If yes that would definitely help the Junta to relent (part of) the power they hold, that would pave the way for scheduling elections. Anyway even if slow learning Thai electors set Puea Thai back in power, the Junta still have the final say with their overseeing power over elected governments, 20 years plan etc... No need for them to panic, Army has already won.

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    My guess is the Junta won't pave the path to an election until they are confident the people will vote the 'right' way. By that time it will be beyond 4+ years of military rule, a different level of 'normal' which the people have become used to, and with the main baddies out of the way a clear message has been sent that any of their followers aiming for the top job should step back and think it through.
    AntRobertson:

    "ranting absurdities and falsities about her (Clinton's) campaign..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Much of the above makes sense, but matters less what we think than what Thais think, and more important what they're going to do about it against people that own not just the guns but also the media, a third world mentality and very thick skins.
    If your looking for the Thais to rise up en masse, it'll be a while.

    Yet, talk amongst themselves is becoming steadfast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    My guess is the Junta won't pave the path to an election until they are confident the people will vote the 'right' way. By that time it will be beyond 4+ years of military rule, a different level of 'normal' which the people have become used to, and with the main baddies out of the way a clear message has been sent that any of their followers aiming for the top job should step back and think it through.
    Actually, it's been about 70 years of military rule. Give or take a few, in one subliminal form or another - with perhaps a break or two, in the cycle, of mock democratic civilian standing under the tight control of the military and other influences.

    It's all quite a fascinating study that most don't historically recognize and how all relates to present day.

    Yet, the good Thai have been free to lead their lives as they see fit - reasonably independent and self-sufficient.

    This very Thai paradox drives social scientists to madness as to the theorizing attempts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Much of the above makes sense, but matters less what we think than what Thais think, and more important what they're going to do about it against people that own not just the guns but also the media, a third world mentality and very thick skins.
    If your looking for the Thais to rise up en masse, it'll be a while.

    Yet, talk amongst themselves is becoming steadfast.
    No rising up, no revolution by downtrodden folks inspired to restore democracy, that's fine rhetoric for those with a need to feel useful but in practical terms it adds up to replacing one bunch of power trippers with another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Much of the above makes sense, but matters less what we think than what Thais think, and more important what they're going to do about it against people that own not just the guns but also the media, a third world mentality and very thick skins.
    If your looking for the Thais to rise up en masse, it'll be a while.

    Yet, talk amongst themselves is becoming steadfast.
    No rising up, no revolution by downtrodden folks inspired to restore democracy, that's fine rhetoric for those with a need to feel useful but in practical terms it adds up to replacing one bunch of power trippers with another.
    Unfortunately, true...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao
    Actually, it's been about 70 years of military rule. Give or take a few, in one subliminal form or another - with perhaps a break or two, in the cycle, of mock democratic civilian standing.
    How democratically was elected Banharn, Chavalit, Chatchai, Sarit, you name it?
    And there was never an international (namely US) outrage, just congratulations...

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    Neighboring South East Asian Countries are becoming more of a threat to Thailand regarding international commercial and industrial investment and the the yellow people in the know obviously have told the yellow people who have controlled Thailand for the last 70 years to back off.

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    Then again it could simply have been that a junta gun was put against her and her son's heads, and she got the hint.

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    So, where do we go from here?

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