Bringing my dog to UK without quarantine

**sweetpea** · 27-10-2010, 08:12 AM

I had an issue recently where i wanted to bring my dog from a country that was not on a pet passport country to Ireland which is same as uk regulations.The only option was to stick her in quarantine for 6 months and get charged about 3k or bring her to an eu country for 6 months before brining her to Ireland on a pet passport, allowing me to skip quarantine in Ireland.This is a a toy dog that has never been left alone and slept every night on our pillow so there was no way i was putting her in quarantine or even in boarding kennel abroad. So I got a friends mother in czech republic to mind her for 6 months for 1500 . She lives in the house and has another dog to play with and a big back garden. For me that was a much better option than putting her in quarantine for 6 months .Its a quite country village where the neighbors are very close so the dog is in the next door neighbors house all the time also .The mother or next door neighbor would probably take another dog as they love them and have taken dogs in similar circumstances before. If you want me to ask you can drop me a mail

**nidhogg** · 27-10-2010, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

Originally Posted by Bower

And all householders in the UK

I can't speak for the UK but anyone who's doing their best for an animal's welfare has my vote.

take his word

I do.

You really are a dumb ass. You think looking out for the welfare of ONE animal offsets the welfare rights of millions of animals and people in UK?

OK. lets get some facts in this thread.

UK is rabies free (as are several other countries around the world).

Worldwide rabies is estimated to cause 40,000 to 70,000 deaths a year.

Once the symptomatic phase of rabies has started, the disease is almost 100 percent FATAL. That means really 100% death (there are less than 5 known cases, world wide, of a survivors of symptomatic rabies -EVER).

In the event of the dog being smuggled in and biting some one - they will cut off its head to look directly for the rabies virus.

The incubation period for rabies can be up to 3 months, although there are cases where the incubation period can be much longer.

Several ways have been suggested which comply with the UK quarrantine restriction - some of those are legal, some seek to circumvent the regulations.

For the sake of ALL the susceptible animals and people in UK, I hope OP follows one of the legal ways, and acts responsibly with the welfare of others as much in their concern as the welfare of the dog.

**Bower** · 27-10-2010, 04:16 PM

Spot on !
I would have greened you but couldn't right now.

**Ubermensch** · 27-10-2010, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by sweetpea

This is a a toy dog that has never been left alone and slept every night on our pillow

A prime candidate for infecting the whole of the UK with rabies according to this crowd!

Well done for keeping it free from the cruelty of quarantine.

You think looking out for the welfare of ONE animal offsets the welfare rights of millions of animals and people in UK?

There are no stupid questions - only stupid people.

lets get some facts in this thread

If you're going to band about 'facts' at least make them true.

UK is rabies free

The UK is rabid dog free - not rabies free.

I'm not looking to argue, all I'm saying is I - & others, thankfully - care about animals & don't like seeing one caged that obviously don't have rabies, such as those mentioned in this thread & will gladly help out where we can.

It's called extensional self-defense.

Celio - If you want a guaranteed method of getting the dog through customs, just ask.

I can't tell you on here though, too many loudmouths.

**dirtydog** · 27-10-2010, 08:30 PM

I should add that cielo and sweetpea are the same person and he is just some [at][at][at][at] flipper spammer.

**dirtydog** · 27-10-2010, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

Drama queens. The dog's had shots & it doesn't have rabies!

The dog doesn't exist, if it did those flippers would have eaten it by now, A Nice Dog Meat Restaurant.

And of course not forgetting The Tiger Penis Restaurant

**Norton** · 27-10-2010, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

I should add that cielo and sweetpea are the same person and he is just some [at][at][at][at] flipper spammer.

Worthy of a drop kick out the door, innit.

**dirtydog** · 27-10-2010, 08:55 PM

naaa, they have spammed 100's of forums, sadly most people don't realise it's spam, probably a cheap way to get dog meat and they get paid for it

**nidhogg** · 28-10-2010, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

UK is rabies free

The UK is rabid dog free - not rabies free.

.

Wanna back that up 'tard?

And don't bother referring to European Bat Lyssavirus (1 or 2) which are are a different genotype to the rabies virus.

**Begbie** · 28-10-2010, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

naaa, they have spammed 100's of forums, sadly most people don't realise it's spam, probably a cheap way to get dog meat and they get paid for it

Nice troll. TeakDoor hasn't done a mass troll on another forum for a while now. I think the last was that gay bikers site.

**Ubermensch** · 29-10-2010, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Wanna back that up

BBC

The last case of rabies in the UK was in November 2002, when a conservation worker was bitten by a rabid bat

As for this shit...

don't bother referring to European Bat Lyssavirus (1 or 2) which are are a different genotype to the rabies virus

Rabies genotypes refer to specific hosts.

It's still rabies, you tool.

**nidhogg** · 29-10-2010, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Wanna back that up

BBC

The last case of rabies in the UK was in November 2002, when a conservation worker was bitten by a rabid bat

As for this shit...

don't bother referring to European Bat Lyssavirus (1 or 2) which are are a different genotype to the rabies virus

Rabies genotypes refer to specific hosts.

It's still rabies, you tool.

Yeah, I always get my scientific information from the BBC you 'tard.

Try the CDC:

CDC - The Rabies Virus - Rabies

The genus Lyssavirus includes rabies virus, Lagos bat, Mokola virus, Duvenhage virus, European bat virus 1 & 2 and Australian bat virus.

Even YOU should be able to see that "rabies virus" and "european bat virus" are DIFFERENT viruses.

And this is the problem with shitheads like you who think things like quarrantine laws are to be evaded because you are too much of a tard to pick up bit of virology before you go spouting your mouth off.

**Ubermensch** · 29-10-2010, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by nidhogg

I always get my scientific information from the BBC

Where do you thnk the BBC gets the information from?

Dr Ron Behren

MD FRCP

Affiliated to CRD & DEPDO

Senior Lecturer in Tropical & Travel Medicine

Disciplines: Medicine, Operational research, Pharmacology

Research areas: Clinical trials, Infectious disease, Malaria, Public health, Vaccines

One of you is full of shit.

Set aside that grip of advanced mental illness that you're in & have a little think about who that might be.

**nidhogg** · 29-10-2010, 08:54 PM

^ email him tard. Ask him directly.

**The Fresh Prince** · 30-10-2010, 12:53 AM

Where is Thai quarantine anyway?, out of interest.

Any pics?

**Stinky** · 30-10-2010, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by The Fresh Prince

Where is Thai quarantine anyway?, out of interest.

Any pics?

Thai Quarentine

**The Fresh Prince** · 30-10-2010, 04:19 AM

Oi!!!

**DrAndy** · 30-10-2010, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by sweetpea

This is a a toy dog that has never been left alone and slept every night on our pillow

I have a toy teddy which does the same

Originally Posted by sweetpea

So I got a friends mother in czech republic to mind her for 6 months for 1500 . She lives in the house and has another dog to play with and a big back garden

so she has mixed with other dogs in a rabies infested country, oh dear

**November Rain** · 02-11-2010, 09:28 PM

Interesting debate this has sparked.

While I disagree vehemently with anyone who would smuggle an animal of any sort for any reason, I do think the quarantine regulations of the UK are far too harsh & the period is unnecessarily long.

If a cat or dog is sent to Europe from Thailand, they have to be vaccinated against rabies & microchipped. A blood sample then has to be sent to an accredited lab overseas & tested for rabies antigens. The possibility of the animal being admitted to the chosen country depends on the outcome of that blood test. Even then, there is a very small margin of time between the vaccination, the test & the sending of the animal. I don't see why UK can't adopt this procedure as well, perhaps with the extra safeguard of 30 days in quarantine.

I remember reading that 1 in 4 dogs admitted to quarantine in UK died there. There was not a single one that had died from rabies, but they had died from diseases picked up in quarantine or from simply pining for their owner. I read this about 12 years ago, so hopefully that would not still be the case.

**Stinky** · 02-11-2010, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by November Rain
I remember reading that 1 in 4 dogs admitted to quarantine in UK died there. There was not a single one that had died from rabies, but they had died from diseases picked up in quarantine or from simply pining for their owner.

This in a way reinforce's the argument for a long quarentine period of animals coming into the UK, there's more diseases than rabies we need to keep under control and if the stats are still the same and these quarentined animals are dieing in vast numbers whilest confined in UK quarentine then it's as well they weren't allowed to roam amongst other animals spreading the diseases which they must've brought in with them and which killed them.

**Ubermensch** · 02-11-2010, 11:14 PM

^^

Theyre dropping like flies in quarantine, even today.

Originally Posted by Sdigit

these quarentined animals are dieing in vast numbers whilest confined in UK quarentine then it's as well they weren't allowed to roam amongst other animals spreading the diseases

They wouldn't be dead if they weren't in quarantine & they wouldn't be spreading anything as they would've been treated by a vet & Uk dogs don't 'roam' like they do in Thailand.

Racists/sexists/speciests - same the world over.

It's always about them.

**Stinky** · 02-11-2010, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

Racists/sexists/speciests - same the world over.

It's always about them.

Jeez you sound just like a middle aged Niel from The Young Ones.

Equal rights for cabbages

Free the birds

.... No wait... the birds are already free.....pass the joint man

**Ubermensch** · 03-11-2010, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Sdigit

you sound just like a middle aged Niel from The Young Ones

You sound like Hitler talking about the Jews.

**Stinky** · 03-11-2010, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

Originally Posted by Sdigit

you sound just like a middle aged Niel from The Young Ones

You sound like Hitler talking about the Jews.

Well I'm no dog lover Neil that's for sure but I don't really want to exterminate them all, I mean dogs do have their place on the planet, and the on menu too in some places

I tried it when I was in Sakhon Nakhon, didn't care for it too much though, even so that hardly qualifies me as a genocidal megolamaniac does it.
I think you're being a little harsh in your comparison Neil, but as many dog fanciers are OTT and irrational in the defence of their best friends I spose it's to be expected.

**can123** · 03-11-2010, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by Sdigit

I think you're being a little harsh in your comparison Neil, but as many dog fanciers are OTT and irrational in the defence of their best friends I spose it's to be expected.

When you have met as many disgusting human beings as I have, dogs get to be superior beings.

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