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Old 17-04-2009, 09:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Australian age pension

I have been living in Thailand for the past year now back in Australia to lodge
papers for age pension has anybody out there in TD land been through this process
and had any difficulties because they live in Thailand
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Old 17-04-2009, 11:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Others will know better but I am sure you must return to Oz every 13 weeks to be eligible for any pension.
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Old 17-04-2009, 11:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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^ Not for the aged pension. It can be paid for life while overseas.

The info on the Aus, Gov. website can be difficult to decipher and a bit criptic.

To qualify for the full Aus. Aged Pension you need to be a resident of Australia for a full (?) 25 years between 15 and 65.

Best to talk to CenterLink.
Age Pension

MediCare is a bit of a worry though. As I understand it they scrub you if you have been living abroad for more than 5 years. Could be wrong though.
Best check it out with them
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Thanks for the info Panda

Thanks for the compliment Nedwalk where did we meet
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As I understand it they scrub you if you have been living abroad for more than 5 years.
Crikey

All the best Gos, had a mate here recently who lives in the Philippines on the pension, says they just keep paying the dosh into his account. I know the Pommie pension is paid each month regardless of where you live. Hopefully the sort their shit out in the next 30+ years by which time I'll qualify.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, Wayne but if you are in your thirties now you ain't getting squat for an old age pension. It's now called "superannuation". I think the cut off for old age pension was 1967 and anyone born after that has to fend for themselves.
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Be Careful!!!!

I recieve Australian age pension as does my australian wife, we informed Centrelink that we are leaving australia at the end of the year to spend the rest of our time in Malaysia and thailand, we were informed yesterday by letter , that after 12 months our house in australia (which is remaining empty) will be valued as an asset and our pensions wild be reduced by a minimum of 35% this is hard to understand as we have only leased condo,s in penang and prachuap, centrelink seem to change the rules as they please has anyone else experienced anything like this???
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I recieve Australian age pension as does my australian wife, we informed Centrelink that we are leaving australia at the end of the year to spend the rest of our time in Malaysia and thailand, we were informed yesterday by letter , that after 12 months our house in australia (which is remaining empty) will be valued as an asset and our pensions wild be reduced by a minimum of 35% this is hard to understand as we have only leased condo,s in penang and prachuap, centrelink seem to change the rules as they please has anyone else experienced anything like this???

I believe that this is normal, as your house is then considered to be an asset, albeit not earning income. It may be in your best interests to consider renting your house and declaring yourself a non-resident, of course you would loose some pension benefits, however I believe the rate of a tax for a non resident is considerably lower than the normal rates.I would suggest you consult an accountant and have the math done. As a pensioner living overseas you loose poharmaceutical benefits and a few other extras, so the renting the house option may be worthwhile.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, Wayne but if you are in your thirties now you ain't getting squat for an old age pension. It's now called "superannuation". I think the cut off for old age pension was 1967 and anyone born after that has to fend for themselves.
Found nothing to support that on the centerlink site, but I doubt a pension will be available in years to come anyway, and no, I have nothing to support that thought either.
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Dont forget!!

Forgot to mention earlier, if you recieve a pension from another source or country as well as the australian age pension, centrelink will deduct 49cents on the dollar, so you are still being ripped off instead of things getting better they are getting worse
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Oh f'k it ... oh well I guess I can stop feeling bad about drinking all my old man's beer
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So basically lie to the fuckers as much as you can so they don't steal from you.

Same as the UK.
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So basically lie to the fuckers as much as you can so they don't steal from you.

Same as the UK.
Seconded - could kick myself for telling the truth !!!
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Bull shitting Centrelink

never fear they will catch you!!we returned to Aus on friday, after a 7 day trip to HK, got a please explain phonecall yesterday asking why we had not informed them we were leaving the country!!I explained we had informed them by phone of our departure and I phoned them on friday when we returned gave both the reference numbers, was informed on return to Aus you have to front up personally because of the amount of people , cheating and getting there mates to phone in~~ its a bit silly really seeing as immigration informs them within 3 days of leaving or arriving
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So basically lie to the fuckers as much as you can so they don't steal from you. Same as the UK.
quite right.
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How can you lie to them , centrelink are informed automatically by immigration when you leave and arrive back in australia, also centrelink has unrestricted access to your australian bank accounts, now they have specialists checking accounts for overseas transactions, its the people who lie and cheat ,who make it difficult for honest folk
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How can you lie to them , centrelink are informed automatically by immigration when you leave and arrive back in australia, also centrelink has unrestricted access to your australian bank accounts, now they have specialists checking accounts for overseas transactions, its the people who lie and cheat ,who make it difficult for honest folk
I was talking to an Aussie who lives here for 9 months of the year and he gets what he is due because he bullshits to them. Why shouldn't he be entitled to his pension (et al)? He's contributed throughout his working life just like the next man.

If the government weren't a bunch of thieves people wouldn't have to be dishonest.
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Well after going to Australia thinking I had done everything right and I meet all the criteria on the website they have rejected my claim giving the reason that I am living overseas permanently.On their website it says if you are living overseas permanently that your age pension can generally be paid indefinately. ers
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