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    'Thailand to block 47,000 websites'

    'Thailand to block 47,000 websites'


    The Thai government has taken steps to block 47,000 websites which operated in Thailand for various reasons this year, said Mass Communication and Information Minister and Cabinet Spokesman Keheliya Rambukwella. He said the People's Republic of China has prevented the operation of a single website opposed to China and its progress.

    'Given this situation where many countries have taken action against websites obstructing their progress, it is most saddening and regrettable to see various local and foreign forces becoming impatient when the Sri Lanka government took action against websites carrying false-hoods and mud slinging campaigns to denigrate the country's image internationally, he said.

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    Sabang has a good thread on this somewhere , perhaps the mods may move this or someone supply a link ?

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    ^ It's not very clear, Mid...

    Some SL paper talks very vaguely about China nd Thailand blocking websites, with do details?

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    47k to 1 ..........

    clear enough to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    The Thai government has taken steps to block 47,000 websites which operated in Thailand for various reasons this year
    Thailand bans 47,000 websites, not sure which kind or why.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    He said the People's Republic of China has prevented the operation of a single website opposed to China and its progress.
    China bans ALL websites opposed to its 'progress' - this has no meaning.

    I'm sorry, maybe I'm being thick, but I still don't understand what these figures mean or why they are related to SL. It just looks like a half hearted attempted by some SL official to say something like "we banned a few, Thailand banned tens of thousands and China banned even more."

    So, if this is some half-hearted propaganda/excuses put out by SL to defend their regime against claims of blocking freedom of speech, then it's so vague with regard to the 47,000 sites banned by Thailand that it doesn't seem relevant.

    But again, I don't understand it...
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    I don't understand it either

    Read it 3 times and not sure what they are trying to say. Has China really banned only 1 site?

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    They should just block Facebook if they want things to improve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonraker
    I don't understand it either
    It don't make sense to me either, maybe a translation error
    Did he mean "He said the People's Republic of China has prevented the operation of every single website opposed to China and its progress.

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    ^ that's what I presumed, but it is meaningless because what does 'opposed to China's progress' mean???

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    These censorship laws take time to change and PT are doing their best in combating these laws like rejecting the amendments to the 2007 Print Registration Act which hit them recently.

    More could be done and needs to be done and as soon.

    As this flood crisis is over then PT need to address these ugly laws that the last government introduced.

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    The problem is that they will be blocked at every turn.

    It's an impossible choice: try to work with the army/blueblood/senate/judiciary snakes, and make next to no progress... or, go after the coup generals/abhisit/PADites legally and get them locked up, and go back to the 97' constitution, and get hoofed out by another coup.

    I don't think many people realise just how damaging the last coup, constitution and dems time on office were...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    The problem is that they will be blocked at every turn.

    It's an impossible choice: try to work with the army/blueblood/senate/judiciary snakes, and make next to no progress... or, go after the coup generals/abhisit/PADites legally and get them locked up, and go back to the 97' constitution, and get hoofed out by another coup.

    I don't think many people realise just how damaging the last coup, constitution and dems time on office were...
    At least, the times of coups are over for now.

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    ^ I hope so, but 'm not convinced.

    There needs to be a change in culture before coups are off the table, and that hasn't happened, and is unable to happen for the time being...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaramanga View Post
    These censorship laws take time to change and PT are doing their best in combating these laws like rejecting the amendments to the 2007 Print Registration Act which hit them recently.

    More could be done and needs to be done and as soon.

    As this flood crisis is over then PT need to address these ugly laws that the last government introduced.
    What? is there something seriously wrong with your ability to remember events accurately? The extremely dangerous amendament to the printing act was proposed by the ministry of culture and approved by the cabinet. This governments cabinet. You do know that, right?

    And you know who the chief of police is, right? This should give you a clue...

    https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...t=chief+police (Thaksin's brother in law-Stage set for Priewpan to become police chief)

    And you do know that this amendment (that has been put on the backburner) .....

    "The proposed amendment to the Printing Act of 2007 by the Cabinet sends signals in the opposite direction. If passed by Parliament into law, it will give the national police chief the power to censor, close down and threaten the constitutional rights of any newspaper with impunity."

    And once again....this was proposed by the culture ministry and approved by the Yingluck cabinet.

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    Council of State rejects proposed amendments to Print Registration Act as unconstitutional | Prachatai English


    Council of State rejects proposed amendments to Print Registration Act as unconstitutional

    Wed, 02/11/2011 - 12:08 | by prachatai

    On 1 Nov, Deputy Spokesperson of the PM’s Office Chalitrat Chantarubeksa told reporters that the Office of the Council of State had rejected amendments to the 2007 Print Registration Act as proposed by the Ministry of Culture and approved by the Cabinet on 18 Oct.

    The agency, which is the government’s advisory body on legal matters, told the government that certain parts of the proposed amendments might go against Section 45 of the Constitution which guarantees the people’s rights to freedom of expression.

    The Cabinet then asked the Ministry of Culture to reconsider the amendments, he said.
    You need to read the last 2 pages of this thread....

    https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...state+meddling (Journos decry state meddling)

    And then there's Chalerm and his "war room".....(you know about this, right? And that arrests have continued...and that website blockings are at the same level as under the Democrats)

    It appears you are incredibly poorly informed GJ. No wonder you have the opinions you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    What? is there something seriously wrong with your ability to remember events accurately? The extremely dangerous amendament to the printing act was proposed by the ministry of culture and approved by the cabinet. This governments cabinet. You do know that, right?

    And you know who the chief of police is, right? This should give you a clue...

    God you are dumb.


    These laws were passed by the last Government/Junta and need to be adhered too until there is a change of Law.

    The Council of State rejected proposed amendments to Print Registration Act as unconstitutional on 1 Nov this year.

    Current laws need to be amended and this takes time

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    ^ Sorry, which bit of

    Almost surreptitiously, the Cabinet on October 18 approved a proposed amendment to a piece of legislation that is unquestionably aimed at imposing new controls on press freedom. Earlier suspicions of a clampdown on the media performing their checks and balances against the new government have now been confirmed, much sooner than expected.

    Don't you understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaramanga View Post
    As this flood crisis is over then PT need to address these ugly laws that the last government introduced.
    Ha, ha. don't hold your breath. They could also have addressed these 'ugly' laws before the flood crisis if it was so important. They had 2 months to do it if it was so reprehensible.

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    Anyway, they are far too busy with more important stuff. Dec 5 looms large and the clock is ticking.

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    Who does the blocking?

    This Bluecoat interweb censor company?

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    i found quite a few blocked websites this weekend. not sure what colored shirts they were as the description in the link i clicked said they'd taken them off. Must have gone undercover...

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    Oz and France are the only two western culture countries under web surveillance

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    2Bangkok has a couple of interesting posts today, as it is a kind of anniversary. Well worth reading in their entirety. Also worth noting that Mr Suranand is very much back in government and all over TV....

    Note press freedom under Thaksin....

    Lest we forget.

    Thaksin meets the press – in court | 2Bangkok.com

    Thaksin meets the press – in court


    Posted on November 2, 2005 by admin

    Thaksin meets the press - in court - Asia Times Online, November 2, 2005

    Once upon a time, Thailand was known to have a free and open press. Not anymore. In the 2005 Worldwide Press Freedom Index, released last month by Paris-based Reporters Without Borders and ranking 167 countries, Thailand shows up at a far from flattering 107th place, behind post-Khmer Rouge Cambodia and post-Suharto Indonesia.

    As far as the Southeast Asian Press Alliance (SEAPA) is concerned, the issue is clear-cut. "More than anything, or anybody else, Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra should take the blame for this dismaying portrayal of Thailand as a country where the press is suddenly under a dark cloud," says SEAPA executive director Roby Alampay. Whenever billionaire tycoon Thaksin, his government, or his family's and friends' companies don't like what the Thai press has to say about them, they tend to sue. Big time...

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    Thaksin admires the Chinese press | 2Bangkok.com

    Thaksin admires the Chinese press

    Posted on November 1, 2005 by admin

    The real harm to country's image - Bangkok Post, November 1, 2005

    [This is the kind of tough editorial that used to only be in The Nation.]

    ...Proof of that, if any were needed, was supplied by the minister himself in a report by the government's official mouthpiece, Radio Thailand. Mr Suranand, just back from a trip to China, told the radio service he praised the Chinese system of media control extensively, and apparently had not a word to say about the official protection of press freedom in Thailand. Mr Suranand said he was strongly impressed with China's ``state-of-art technology system'' which is used to monitor citizens, control the media and block access to thousands of internet websites which the Chinese find inconveniently democratic, including several in Thailand.

    According to Mr Suranand, some media ``make problems for society'' and he signed an agreement with China to cooperate on this issue. Mr Suranand made no attempt to defend his country's democratic system and constitutional protection of free speech and press. Instead, he publicly agreed with the statements of his hosts, who represent a dictatorship with no pretence of press freedom. He agreed with the Chinese that the government should ``play a more important role in examining the members of the press who trigger problems to the society''. That seems a good reason to downgrade Thailand's press freedom and harm Thailand's image yet again.

    The climate of harassment is well known. Last year, police in the South invited reporters to a news conference on the Tak Bai homicides, then locked them in the room and demanded notes, photos and video footage. Mr Thaksin has claimed several times that the press is hurting the image of the country by certain news coverage or commentary. On the contrary, it is clear the government is harming the country's image abroad by creating an environment of badgering that has caused a huge loss of respect for Thai media independence. And it is using state agencies, including security forces, to help...



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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Oz and France are the only two western culture countries under web surveillance
    What makes you think so? US and most if not all European countries have agencies that heavily monitor internet usage. Actually in EU - dont know if this is case now - ISPs were obliged by law to keep record of everyones internet use for 3 or 6 months. Data freely available to civil servants or to anyone handing out a bit of money.

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    Go to wikipedia site and internet censoship, details are there.

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