Thread: Bangkok Will Escape Flooding: Yingluck

Bangkok Post : Help arrives too late in Nonthaburi

Help arrives too late in Nonthaburi

FIRECRACKER IN SKY ALERTS LOCALS TO DYKE BREACH

• Published: 16/10/2011 at 12:00 AM
• Newspaper section: News

NONTHABURI : Residents are frustrated by the failure of authorities and politicians to take action to protect them from flooding by the Chao Phraya River.


HOLDING BACK THE ONSLAUGHT: Soldiers prepare to dump rocks to repair a flood-damaged section of Phahon Yothin Road in Chai Nat yesterday.PHOTO: PATTANAPONG HIRUNARD

However, authorities say they have been working day and night to prevent 14 sluice gates from Klong Bang Talad to Wat Khemapirataram dykes along the Chao Phraya River from breaching.

If these sluice gates were broken, Bangkok's outer economic areas would be hard hit.

Toey, 31, an architect who has been living in Bua Thong Kheha estate in Bang Bua Thong district for 15 years, said 650 households in the area were inundated.

"Floods are up to 10cm on my first floor and 80cm on the road inside the estate, which is nearly 1km away from the main road _ Bang Kruay-Sai Noi," said Mr Toey.

The flood was entering its sixth day and but officials had passed on little information to residents.

"Residents have to help themselves. We heard about the floods when someone set off a firework into the sky on Monday night as one of the dykes near Bang Bua Thong fresh market was broken.

"They sent an electrical pump and several sandbags but those things can't hold back water adequately," he said.

Jinda, 62, a retired civil servant living in Laphawan Residence on Tha It road, said her house was not yet flooded but the road inside the compound was inundated. "Any housing estate which has connections with authorities or local politicians could bargain to get electrical pumps and sandbags and they just pump water out on to the street, unlike my compound which has quite a difficult time," said Ms Jinda. Orchard farmers behind the residence have suffered from the inundation for a second week.

Udomdej Rattanasatien, Nonthaburi MP from the Pheu Thai Party, said Nonthaburi municipality is facing trouble this weekend as the water has shifted way from the Nakhon Pathom area to Bang Bua Thong.

"We are adding two more rows of sandbags which increase the height of the dyke from 1.2m to 1.5m," said Mr Udomdej.

Somnuk Thanadechakul, Nonthaburi municipality mayor, said residents patrol days and nights along risky areas as water levels could vary drastically over the course of a day.

Nonthaburi municipality has spent 20 million baht on sandbags and water pumps, he said.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

"Floods are up to 10cm on my first floor and 80cm on the road inside the estate, which is nearly 1km away from the main road _ Bang Kruay-Sai Noi," said Mr Toey.

Sai Noi Rd, only just around the corner from the family home.
Bollocks, not looking good.

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At 11:45 Flood Relief Operation Command held press conference saying BKK will most likely not see flooding

^ the reality is that Bangkok is flooded already in many areas...

Thailand Says Floodwaters Receding, Won

Thailand Says Floodwaters Receding, Won’t Inundate Bangkok

By Supunnabul Suwannakij - Oct 16, 2011 12:09 PM GMT+0700

Thailand’s government said floods that devastated central and northern provinces won’t inundate Bangkok, as water levels receded in some areas and the capital’s flood barriers continued to hold.

“The water level is now manageable and Bangkok will definitely not be flooded,” Pongsapat Pongcharoen, a spokesman for the national flood center, said in a briefing on state television today.

The volume of water flowing from areas north of Bangkok has stabilized as dams reduced the amount being released, Agriculture Minister Theera Wongsamut said. Floodwaters have receded in Singburi, Ang-Thong and Ayutthaya province, and water levels in the Chao Phraya river that runs through the capital are still below the flood barrier, Theera said.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Bangkok will definitely not be flooded,” Pongsapat Pongcharoen, a spokesman for the national flood center

Right, that's it TIME TO EVACUATE...

My wife sat in on Pattaya community meeting yesterday about what the "so called experts" plan to do and to avert future flooding in the area.

The head of the water management department admitted to me 3 weeks ago that they really don't know what they are doing and it was confirmed again yesterday they really don't know what they are doing.

A perfect example about letting time solve their problems.

RichardBarrow Richard Barrow

National Flood Relief Centre: The huge volume of water from upstream has already passed Bangkok (MCOT)

^ Odd, because earlier today/last night, they were saying this runoff from the north was due to arrive at Bangkok today or tomorrow...but now it has passed us.

Central Bangkok looks like it's dodged a bullet, but of course they will resent the fact that just made it worse in Nonthaburi & Pathum Thani.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Help arrives too late in Nonthaburi

There never was any help for Nonthaburi, besides band aid's. It's outside the flood barriers. Time for some big infrastructural work around the lower Chao Praya basin, methinks.

^ I would not hold your breath...

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

So aside from the lingering storms it appears the worst is over. I'm not clear on why/if Yingluck's address was carried on only one TV channel (and was it the one where they had to fire the Hill and Knowlton sakdina type?)

Wouldn't all the Thai TV stations interupt programming for such an important announcement as hers? She is the f'ing PM whether they like it or not. Then again - just hours earlier we had Fat Boy telling everyone they must listen only to him. It will be interesting to see the 'news' coverage in the two English-language yellow rags on Monday as they try to make the Jao Pah of Kao San Road look like the winner..

You dope. I expect when you take a piss you see the flush in political terms.

The PM is struggling to find any substance. The management of what passes for their government is chaotic, conflicting and inchoate. She seems to have as much grasp of a brief as you have of reality. Her shortcomings were apparent to anyone with the meanest of intelligence from day one and everyone, except you of course and your stupid ilk, expected nothing more from someone who was ever only a proxy and PR vehicle for the exiled one.

The responsibility for the inundation and its control has so far passed through 3 hands with predictable confusion.

The worst is by no means over you buffoon, in fact it has yet to peak. Bangkok's outskirts have already succumbed and the inner city will follow according to topography. The water level has already exceeded the mean height over sea level and with the expected tides accompanied by the current storms the prognosis is grim as indeed is the competence of this government.

^ and inappropriate for this thread...

^^

Originally Posted by thegent

You dope. I expect when you take a piss you see the flush in political terms.

Here comes the irony:

Originally Posted by thegent

The PM is struggling to find any substance. The management of what passes for their government is chaotic, conflicting and inchoate. She seems to have as much grasp of a brief as you have of reality. Her shortcomings were apparent to anyone with the meanest of intelligence from day one and everyone, except you of course and your stupid ilk, expected nothing more from someone who was ever only a proxy and PR vehicle for the exiled one.

Well done, you got your word in so you can feel important, good boy, should help your insecurities no end...:

Originally Posted by thegent

inchoate

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Originally Posted by thegent

Bangkok's outskirts have already succumbed and the inner city will follow according to topography. The water level has already exceeded the mean height over sea level and with the expected tides accompanied by the current storms the prognosis is grim as indeed is the competence of this government.

Basically correct, but spoilt by your political pissing...

Originally Posted by chitown

This place, with all of its negativity, is rapidly becoming a source of depression for me.

You hit the nail on the head Chitown.

Actually, I quite like Yingluck and would love to see her grow into the role of Supremo but she seems to lack confidence and is probably too willing to defer to those around her given her inexperience. Was she ever intended to fulfil the role or did she really want it? Judging by current performance I doubt it. Still, the high water mark has yet to be reached in her administration but perhaps, like the current floods, it may not reach the heights forecast.

I think she is doing quite well. For every politician, a flood is a great chance to show up in rubber boots and fill sandbags and she looks exceptionally good while standing in the water with rubber boots. It will give her some extra bonus.

Originally Posted by mikesch4ever

I think she is doing quite well. For every politician, a flood is a great chance to show up in rubber boots and fill sandbags and she looks exceptionally good while standing in the water with rubber boots. It will give her some extra bonus.

agree, she will look even better with an iPad in her hand taking notes

Originally Posted by thegent

Actually, I quite like Yingluck and would love to see her grow into the role of Supremo but she seems to lack confidence and is probably too willing to defer to those around her given her inexperience. Was she ever intended to fulfil the role or did she really want it?

What role? Fcking flood queen? Inexperience with floods? It wasn't in her CV...Can she swim? Who gives a fck? She's doing a fine job...

Seems like water "experts" should take charge...

Originally Posted by chitown

Geeze Gent take it is easy. Why is it all the sudden that every thread on TD seems to turn into a personal, name calling boxing match.

This place, with all of its negativity, is rapidly becoming a source of depression for me.

Yep, agree also.

You know folks, natural disasters just happened. It is what it is.
In no way might they be associated or attached to human political identities.

Quite mad to even consider these situations so.

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Originally Posted by thegent

Actually, I quite like Yingluck and would love to see her grow into the role of Supremo but she seems to lack confidence and is probably too willing to defer to those around her given her inexperience. Was she ever intended to fulfil the role or did she really want it?

What role? Fcking flood queen? Inexperience with floods? It wasn't in her CV...Can she swim? Who gives a fck? She's doing a fine job...

Seems like water "experts" should take charge...

You idiot.

Any government, anywhere in the world, has a duty of care to its citizens and in exercising that it develops policies that best protect the public and property. Its a function. OK, got that? Now, the annual run off this year is exceptional but nevertheless it was predictable. However, for many folk beset by the inundation they have been let down badly by poor management of resources, appalling communication and in several notable occasions have been simply abandoned to their fate.
Now the government is made up of a cabinet appointed by the Prime Minister who is responsible for them and their performance, the management of which has been sadly lacking. That is her role, you dolt.

Sometimes one really does wonder just how thick people are on this forum.

Originally Posted by thegent

You idiot.

Good start Oldfart. You can see yourself in the mirror.

Originally Posted by thegent

Any government, anywhere in the world, has a duty of care to its citizens and in exercising that it develops policies that best protect the public and property.

Considering all the disasters in countries of all types around the world, none have been shining lights.

Originally Posted by thegent

Its a function. OK, got that? Now, the annual run off this year is exceptional but nevertheless it was predictable.

The weather this year was predictable? Yeah right.....

Originally Posted by thegent

However, for many folk beset by the inundation they have been let down badly by poor management of resources, appalling communication and in several notable occasions have been simply abandoned to their fate.

I am sure you would have done it better especially since you are able to predict the weather. You simply have not realised the magnitude of the problem. For the most part the Thais have done very well under the circumstances.

Originally Posted by thegent

Now the government is made up of a cabinet appointed by the Prime Minister who is responsible for them and their performance, the management of which has been sadly lacking. That is her role, you dolt.

Regardless of who is in government, the various agencies and the military are the ones who really need to perform.

Originally Posted by thegent

Sometimes one really does wonder just how thick people are on this forum.

Why don't you increase the IQ rating of TD and go somewhere else.