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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    Big challenges await Yingluck - FT.com

    July 3, 2011 6:21 pm

    Big challenges await Yingluck

    .
    I fancy the idea of a woman outdoing a man when it comes to political venues. What a shame it will be when she steers the country in the right direction. Her brother offering advice? Why not...

    Most women understand what it takes nuture a family, this can be applied to the country. Right now this is what Thailand needs

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    poverty reduce significantly...
    That's exactly why Strontiumdog is so opposed to this party.
    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Poor Strontiumdog. Lock away the razor blades.

    so what they say is really true Noodles, you are just another online stalker at the end

    I hope you are not a violent stalker in real life,

    how many Thai females have you stalked here in Thailand when they refused to go with you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    This leaves no room for amnesty to any person.
    Including the military, Coup conspirators, & 'Youtube' Judges? Good.
    The spin is blatant. 'No amnesty' actually means no amnesty for Thaksin.
    she is still going to face a lot of difficult questions in the coming months,

    Abhisit must be happy in some ways, he was tired

    as soon as she brings questions of amnesty for Thaksin, you can bet this is when things will turn to shit, unless there is a royal pardon being negotiated for December 5

    Also focusing primarily on the return of her brother would be a breach of her official mandate, and for that she could be disqualified

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    she is still going to face a lot of difficult questions in the coming months,
    No shit, Sherlock...

    I swear...you must be reading her mail...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    as soon as she brings questions of amnesty for Thaksin, you can bet this is when things will turn to shit, unless there is a royal pardon being negotiated for December 5
    He has already been pardoned by his buddy the sprog, only problem is that it won't be reckoned as an official pardon. Not right now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    she is still going to face a lot of difficult questions in the coming months,
    No shit, Sherlock...

    I swear...you must be reading her mail...

    non-sense, like Betty, I can read her mind

    impressive, isn't it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom
    He has already bought his pardon from his buddy the sprog,
    fixed, must have been expensive, or maybe an amnesty he is owed for certain financial debts someone special has

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    non-sense, like Betty, I can read her mind
    Don't be silly "pupa" you can't read full stop!

    p.s, I assume your bum chum seriously dumb is in mourning today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    as soon as she brings questions of amnesty for Thaksin, you can bet this is when things will turn to shit, unless there is a royal pardon being negotiated for December 5
    He has already been pardoned by his buddy the sprog, only problem is that it won't be reckoned as an official pardon. Not right now..
    The sprog is not yet the thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    non-sense, like Betty, I can read her mind impressive, isn't it ?
    Yep, I am flabbergasted...
    Didn't realize you two (Ying & Yang) were that close, after all...
    So that 'red loon' shite was just a 'red herring'...?
    Welcome aboard, Butterfly...

    And good morning to you...I trust you slept well...


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    Bangkok Post : Fraud probe could change poll results

    Fraud probe could change poll results

    Clear evidence of election fraud has emerged in at least five provinces, which is likely to affect the election result, says the Election Commission.

    More than 1,900 complaints of election cheating nationwide have come in so far, says EC member Somchai Jungprasert.

    Evidence of poll fraud was found in five provinces in the North and the Northeast: Sukhothai, Si Sa Ket, Maha Sarakham, Buri Ram, and Chaiyaphum.


    Somchai: Thousands of complaints lodged.

    Mr Somchai said provincial election offices would finalise investigations into the complaints and submit them, along with evidence, to the central EC within 15 days.

    The EC would consider giving red cards to candidates who breached the law before the poll results are officially announced.

    "Some [canvassers] were caught with money, a list of voters' names, and candidates' details," Mr Somchai said.

    The EC can link the canvassers to candidates, he said.

    Mr Somchai said the EC has received 1,929 complaints of election fraud and vote-buying.

    It also has received 185 complaints of election law violations that are not directly related to poll fraud, such as vandalising campaign posters, he said.

    Most complaints have come from the Northeast, the North and some areas of Bangkok, Mr Somchai said.

    Some technical glitches took place at the polls yesterday, as long queues formed at poll stations.

    EC chairman Apichart Sukhagganond said he was pleased with the voter turnout, which some estimates put as high as 75%, especially given problems with weather and traffic.

    Mr Apichart said the formal results can be announced within seven days in those areas with no complaints of poll fraud against them.

    In areas which have been the subject of complaints, the EC will conclude its inquiries into the complaints and announce confirmed poll results within 30 days, Mr Apichart said.

    Pol Gen Pongsapat Pongcharoen, an adviser to the Royal Thai Police Office, which supervises election security, said that six voters _ four in Nakhon Sawan, and one each in Uthai Thani and Chiang Mai _ were found yesterday to have torn up ballot papers, which is a violation of election law.

    Pol Gen Pongsapat said 19 people were arrested on charges of buying or selling votes, mostly in the Northeast and in the South.

    People who sold their votes will not face prosecution if they report the incident within seven days to the EC or police, and hand in the money they took from canvassers, Pol Gen Pongsapat said.

    Two voters have so far come forward. They have told police which canvassers had paid them and which party they were paid to vote for, Pol Gen Pongsapat said.

    The names of the parties cited in the accusations have been withheld pending investigations.
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy
    And good morning to you...I trust you slept well...
    did very well indeed, Thai politics will get quite "interesting" in the next few weeks

    can't wait for December for Thaksin return

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    ^^Whoa, that's completely out of the blue. And I thought the fog over Bangkok this morning just looked portentous.

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    the low turnout in certain NE cities is quite interesting, if indeed no money was paid

    again re-enforcing the idea that the peasants wouldn't bother voting at all if it wasn't for the cash involved,

    that's what change the election results, the vote buying, as low participation will usually favor the outgoing government

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    ^^^ Sour Grapes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    as soon as she brings questions of amnesty for Thaksin, you can bet this is when things will turn to shit, unless there is a royal pardon being negotiated for December 5
    He has already been pardoned by his buddy the sprog, only problem is that it won't be reckoned as an official pardon. Not right now..
    The sprog is not yet the thing.
    Second act will start after a short pause.

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    http://www.watoday.com.au/world/vote...704-1gxzv.html

    Vote-rigging allegations rock Thai PM-elect


    Lindsay Murdoch, Bangkok

    July 4, 2011 - 8:49AM


    A 'red shirt' supporter casts his vote at a rural polling station in the outskirts of Udon Thani. Photo: ADREES LATIF

    Allegations of vote rigging have emerged as businesswoman Yingluck Shinawatra prepares to become Thailand's first woman prime minister after her Puea Thai party's landslide victory at Sunday's election.

    The Election Commission said it had received 1,900 complaints of election cheating, mostly in the provincial voting strongholds of Puea Thais's "red shirt" supporters.

    But the allegations have not stopped Puea Thai supporters celebrating a stunning victory over the Democrat party led by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, which represents Bangkok's powerful business and government elite.


    Yingluck Shinawatra faces the media after voting in the Thailand election. Photo: AFP

    Puea Thai won 262 seats in Thailand's 500-seat parliament and is set to form a coalition government the opportunistic Chart Thai Pattana party led by banned politician Banharn Silpa-archa.

    Ms Yingluck, 44, the photogenic younger sister of exiled billionaire former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, has invited other smaller parties to join her government, saying she wants to unite the country after years of political deadlock and 12 months after bloody street protests left 91 people dead on Bangkok's streets.

    In Dubai, an elated Mr Thaksin, who faces two years jail on a corruption charge, said he wanted to return to Thailand for a family wedding in December.

    But he said if his return looked like stoking more violence he would prefer to stay away.

    "I don't have a grudge against anyone now," said Mr Thaksin, a deeply divisive figure in Thai politics who was removed from office by the military in a 2006 coup.

    "It's over. I have forgiven them and I hope they have forgiven me too," he said.

    A potential flashpoint for more trouble will be when Puea Thai pushes an amnesty law that would enable Mr Thaksin to return to Thailand.

    Thai's army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha made clear during the election campaign he will not be happy with Puea Thai's victory.

    But there have been reports army commanders have been discussing some form of accommodation with the Thaksin camp.

    Army commanders might be willing to strike a deal with Thaksin forces while their hand is still strong.

    While making extravagant promises to the rural and urban poor, the strong theme of Ms Yingluck's slick and well funded campaign was fostering reconciliation in the country that used to be known as the "land of smiles."

    Mr Abhisit quickly conceded defeat last night after the size of the victory became clear in unofficial voting.

    Democrat supporters were devastated.

    Analysts say there are likely to be legal challenges mounted to thwart Ms Yingluck's government in the coming months.

    But they said the size of the victory will make it harder for Bangkok's establishment to block the workings of a Puea Thai-led coalition.

    Pattnapong Chantranontwong, editor of the Bangkok Post, said Mr Abhisit's government failed to impress voters because of its failure to tackle problems like shortages of key food items and the hardship of people at the grass roots level.

    The Democrat party won 160 seats.

    But Mr Pattnapong said what worries many in Thai society and some within Puea Thai is the granting of amnesty to Mr Thaksin and returning to him more than a $1 billion of seized assets.

    "They fear that Puea Thai, once it takes power and goes ahead with such a move, would face fierce political protests and society will be plunged into even worse unrest than what it has seen in the past few years," he said.



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    Thaksin sister prepares to lead Thailand after stunning win | Reuters

    Thaksin sister prepares to lead Thailand after stunning win







    By Alan Raybould
    BANGKOK | Sun Jul 3, 2011 9:54pm EDT

    (Reuters) - Thai opposition leader Yingluck Shinawatra, a political newcomer, prepared to lead her country after a stunning weekend election victory but huge challenges lie ahead, including how quickly to bring home her brother, exiled ex-premier Thaksin.

    The Election Commission projected their Puea Thai party would win 264 of the 500 seats in parliament, a decisive win that appears to make it hard for Thaksin's die-hard opponents in the army and establishment to stop Yingluck taking power.

    "Winning by a big margin would ease the problem of the military intervening and make it easier for them to form the government and implement all their policies," said Kongkiat Opaswongkarn, chief executive of broker Asia Plus Securities.

    "We expect a jump when the stock market opens and this is because it is a big win, with less risk of having the military meddling with politics."

    The baht rose more than 1 percent against the dollar Monday, outperforming other Asian currencies.

    Late Sunday, Yingluck brushed aside concerns about the cost of the promises made during her election campaign, from tablet computers for schoolchildren to a big increase in the minimum wage, which critics say will damage the economy.

    "That's not true, we know what to do. We'll reduce costs for people and we know how to generate the income that we'll give back to them," she told Reuters.

    Newspapers concentrated on the photogenic 44-year-old businesswoman Monday, momentarily leaving Thaksin to one side, although he was all over the television screens on Sunday,
    offering his congratulations from Dubai.

    The stridently anti-Thaksin Nation newspaper accepted the result but pulled no punches on the challenge ahead.

    "The election is over but the hatred remains," it headlined its leader column. "It's time for ordinary Thais to take reconciliation into their own hands."

    Outgoing Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva conceded defeat quickly Sunday. "I would like to congratulate the Puea Thai Party for the right to form a government," he said.

    Just over a year ago, the military put down a protest movement by Thaksin's "red shirt" supporters in Bangkok and 91 people lost their lives. Nearly 2,000 were injured.

    The election results were a rebuke to the traditional establishment of generals, "old money" families and royal advisers in Bangkok who loathe Thaksin and backed Abhisit, an Oxford-educated economist who lacked the common touch.

    THAKSIN BIDES HIS TIME

    The size of Puea Thai's victory could usher in much-needed political stability after six years of sporadic unrest since Thaksin was ousted in a coup. He now lives in Dubai to avoid jail for graft charges that he says were politically motivated.

    The years of unrest have featured the occupation of Bangkok's two airports, a blockade of parliament, an assassination attempt and last year's protests.

    "Chances of blocking Puea Thai in the near term are severely limited," said Roberto Herrera-Lim, Southeast Asian analyst at political risk consultancy Eurasia Group. "The instability everyone has been worried about now looks less likely. The military will have to be pragmatic now."

    The red shirts accuse the rich, the establishment and army top brass of breaking laws with impunity -- grievances that have simmered since the 2006 coup -- and have clamoured for Thaksin's return.

    Thaksin said he would "wait for the right moment" to come home. "If my return is going to cause problems, then I will not do it yet. I should be a solution, not a problem," he told reporters in Dubai.

    The former telecommunications tycoon himself scored two landslide election wins and is idolised by the poor as the first politician to address the needs of millions living beyond Bangkok's bright lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    "I don't have a grudge against anyone now," said Mr Thaksin
    he is hilarious, isn't it ? what a fucking psycho liar,

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    For the sake of the country, politicians should commit themselves to undoing their past mistakes in a fair manner. Pheu Thai will need to avoid repeating the same mistakes. Appointing red-shirt leaders like Natthawut Saikua as ministers - figures whose role in the bloody crisis last year remains unclear - would be very stupid, as it goes against the party's pledge for reconciliation. Also, any amnesty for former leader Thaksin Shinawatra should be delayed as this could spark another fire of conflict. Pheu Thai cannot win the hearts of all voters, but the majority will remain loyal if they act in the interests of the nation.
    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    ^ Nice article...
    That is what you call a nice article?

    Nice.
    Last edited by Takeovers; 04-07-2011 at 12:06 PM.

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    Bangkok Post : UPDATED: Abhisit resigns leadership

    UPDATED: Abhisit resigns leadership

    Prime Minsiter Abhisit Vejjajiva announced his resignation as leader of the Democrat Party on Monday morning.

    The outgoing premier made the announcement after the Pheu Thai Party crushed his party in the 2011 general election yesterday.

    "I've decided to resign because I could not lead my party to victory in the election," Mr Abhisit said.

    Democrat executive members will meet to select a new party leader within 90 days, as the law requires, he said.

    Before the election, Mr Abhisit said he would step down as Democrat leader if his party won fewer seats than in the previous general election.

    The unofficial election result shows that the Democrats won 159 seats yesterday. In 2007, the party won 164 seats.


    Democrat Party leader and outgoing Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva (Photo by Pattanapong Hirunard)

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    Bangkok Post : Yingluck begins coalition talks

    Yingluck begins coalition talks
    Pheu Thai's candidate for prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra will meet key figures of the Chartthaipattana, Chart Pattana Puea Pandin and Palang Chon parties to discuss plans for a coalition government at noon on Monday, reports said.

    The meeting will take place at SC Park Hotel.

    If the four parties agree to team up, the next coalition government would potentially have 298 seats in parliament.

    The unofficial results from yesterday's general election show that Pheu Thai has won 265 out of 500 seats. Chartthaipattana 19 seats and Chart Pattana Puea Pandin and Palang Chon seven seats each.


    Pheu Thai Party's candidate for prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra (Photo by Pattarachai Prechapanich)

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    Bangkok Post : Gen Prawit: Army accepts election

    Gen Prawit: Army accepts election
    The Thai military accepted the landslide election win by allies of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who was toppled by the army in a bloodless coup in September 2006, outgoing Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwon said Monday.


    A Thai soldier stands guard outside a polling station in the country's restive southern province of Yala. Thailand's military has accepted a landslide election win by allies of Thaksin Shinawatra, who was toppled by the army in a 2006 coup, the outgoing defence minister said Monday.

    Thaksin's overthrow sparked years of turmoil and a series of street protests by rival political factions. His party staged a stunning comeback in Sunday's election, forcing outgoing premier Abhisit Vejjajiva to concede defeat.

    "I have talked to military leaders. We will allow politicians to work it out. The military will not get involved," Gen Prawit Wongsuwon told AFP.

    "The people have spoken clearly so the military cannot do anything. We accept it."

    The military is a constant wildcard in a nation that has seen almost as many coups as elections.

    Political observers had said that a close result in Sunday's vote could have fuelled a fresh round of street protests or military intervention.

    But a clear win by the opposition will make it harder for the generals to justify seizing power again.

    "Let the elected politicians work. We cannot chase them away. They haven't done anything wrong," Prawit said.

    A key issue for the military is whether the new government tries to pursue legal or other steps against the generals for a bloody crackdown last year on opposition protests that left more than 90 people dead, mostly civilians.

    But Thaksin has said he is not seeking "revenge" against his foes in the armed forces, who see themselves as the guardian of the revered monarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    Gen Prawit: Army accepts election
    quite nice of them,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    For the sake of the country, politicians should commit themselves to undoing their past mistakes in a fair manner. Pheu Thai will need to avoid repeating the same mistakes. Appointing red-shirt leaders like Natthawut Saikua as ministers - figures whose role in the bloody crisis last year remains unclear - would be very stupid, as it goes against the party's pledge for reconciliation. Also, any amnesty for former leader Thaksin Shinawatra should be delayed as this could spark another fire of conflict. Pheu Thai cannot win the hearts of all voters, but the majority will remain loyal if they act in the interests of the nation.
    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    ^ Nice article...
    That is what you call a nice article?

    Nice.
    I guess you don't agree?

    Thaksin has talked of reconciliation, so Pheu Thai need to act upon that. You don't stir up a shit-storm if you are serious about solving problems.

    Thaksin has said he wont come back if he is part of the problem. Do you disagree with your spiritual leader too?

    Also appointing Mr 'burn Bangkok' would also seem to be an unnecessarily provocative move, if you are serious about reconciliation.....if.......

    It's called commonsense.

    Sombat I would fully support as a Pheu Thai politician....but he wasn't included. Strange huh?

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