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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue water dreaming View Post
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    nuclear power at least stops us from killing ourselves, alternatives are bad. and do not mention wind or solar - they are not ready yet, i wish they were, but they are not
    I think wind and solar power are closer than governments would have us believe. Most cruising yachts these days are totally self sufficient for their power using wind and solar generation especially in the warmer climes. Many developed countries now offer householders and businesses the option of generating their own solar power which is fed back into the power grid and 'winds back' the electricity meters as it generates excess during the days. The problem does not so much rest upon generation, but upon storage and power loss in the conversion between 12v and 240/110v:10-15amps.
    Then there is the developing industry which is awaiting the efficient release of hydrogen from water to make hydrogen cells cost efficient, not to mention their eco neutral generation status.
    If all households took personal responsibility in generating domestic use energy via wind and solar panels, we would not need nuclear power.

    Bulk electricity supplies can be met by tidal, wind and solar generation.

    Hydro-electric supplies via mega dams are an environmental disaster, and always have been.

    Hydrogen as a fuel is also coming on stream.

    NASA considers that liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen is the most cost effective fuel for moving payloads into space one past the initial phase of the launch, powered by kerosene.

    Contrary to some thinkers, hydrogen is a fuel, not a "carrier".

    It can be easily generated via hydrolysis of water, producing both hydrogen and oxygen in the exact proportion for combustion to form water.

    A totally renewable and clean, carbon free energy source for internal combustion motors, cooking and heating as well as for industrial use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    The idea of dumping nuclear waste in subduction zones wouldn't work, as the sedimentary "sill" that forms on top of the subducted plate would effectively hold the dumped waste back, unless the waste is actually buried deep in the sedimentary floor, where it may then glide under the sill and lithosphere into the asthenosphere where it could metamorphose into lava.

    Sending nuclear waste as a payload on a rocket into the sun is pobably the cheapest method of safely removing it from the biosphere.
    That would be the most expensive, and financially impossible method. Much easier to put it deep down. I don't see any problem with that - there are thousands of chemical factories doing just as harmful things, at least nuclear industry is regulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
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    The idea of dumping nuclear waste in subduction zones wouldn't work, as the sedimentary "sill" that forms on top of the subducted plate would effectively hold the dumped waste back, unless the waste is actually buried deep in the sedimentary floor, where it may then glide under the sill and lithosphere into the asthenosphere where it could metamorphose into lava.

    Sending nuclear waste as a payload on a rocket into the sun is pobably the cheapest method of safely removing it from the biosphere.
    Go check the cost per kilo for sending something into orbit - not that it's that difficult for you to further make a fool of yourself. "Cheapest method" - what a goon!

    Oh, and nice copy/paste from web sources. I think LD is right - you are incapable of original writing.
    You talk a heap of shit quack quack.
    That was all my own writing you second class troll.

    Go find something I copied it off, you can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostromo View Post
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    The idea of dumping nuclear waste in subduction zones wouldn't work, as the sedimentary "sill" that forms on top of the subducted plate would effectively hold the dumped waste back, unless the waste is actually buried deep in the sedimentary floor, where it may then glide under the sill and lithosphere into the asthenosphere where it could metamorphose into lava.

    Sending nuclear waste as a payload on a rocket into the sun is pobably the cheapest method of safely removing it from the biosphere.
    That would be the most expensive, and financially impossible method. Much easier to put it deep down. I don't see any problem with that - there are thousands of chemical factories doing just as harmful things, at least nuclear industry is regulated.
    Talk to any geologist and he will tell you pretty much what I've said about subducting anything under the crust.

    NASA states unequivocally that HHO is the cheapest method of sending anything into space.


    Feb 27th 2012.
    We're in a very constrained budget environment, so it's going to have to come in on mark and show up in time for that first flight," May said. "We're in an environment these days where all of those things are important. We're thinking, in order to come in on budget, you're not going to want to have to do a lot of development to get it there for the first flight. We're really looking for something that is an existing capability with really only minor [changes]."

    NASA's requirements state the interim upper stage must be hydrogen-fueled, rated for human launches, and capable of at least three ignitions with power the change the 26.5-ton Orion spacecraft's velocity by more than 6,800 mph.

    Spaceflight Now | Breaking News | NASA's huge rocket needs engine with flight heritage

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    If all households took personal responsibility in generating domestic use energy via wind and solar panels, we would not need nuclear power.
    That would give you approx 6 minutes of aircon. Per day. If it is sunny. I did the math working out energy required for laptop, satellite terminal, and a lamp. Solar panel mat we needed just happened to be out of stock as US army bought all of them (it was during the war). We did get couple by threats and bribery though, and say, 70 watts on broad sunshine - and at that time these were the absolute top end - can charge and run essentials. but need batteries and things in between. Now the reality is, current commercial solar panels are just not yet capable to produce energy required by common household





    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Hydro-electric supplies via mega dams are an environmental disaster, and always have been.
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    Hydro-electric supplies via mega dams are an environmental disaster, and always have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostromo View Post
    ENT we are not done. I supported you on serious issues. You stabbed me in the back.
    Falklands does not need a wnkr like you. Or Gibraltar. Shame on you. What we do with turncoats. I can tell you. We make you listen specific Abba record over and over again. Much more effective than the old waterboarding thing.
    What are you on about "stabbing you in the back"? When, where?

    I referred to Cthulhu (aka quack quack, le canard), as a Sheisskopf.

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    Sadly, NASA has quite much closed the doors, there is the future gone

    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    The idea of dumping nuclear waste in subduction zones wouldn't work, as the sedimentary "sill" that forms on top of the subducted plate would effectively hold the dumped waste back, unless the waste is actually buried deep in the sedimentary floor, where it may then glide under the sill and lithosphere into the asthenosphere where it could metamorphose into lava.

    Sending nuclear waste as a payload on a rocket into the sun is pobably the cheapest method of safely removing it from the biosphere.
    That would be the most expensive, and financially impossible method. Much easier to put it deep down. I don't see any problem with that - there are thousands of chemical factories doing just as harmful things, at least nuclear industry is regulated.
    Talk to any geologist and he will tell you pretty much what I've said about subducting anything under the crust.

    NASA states unequivocally that HHO is the cheapest method of sending anything into space.


    Feb 27th 2012.
    We're in a very constrained budget environment, so it's going to have to come in on mark and show up in time for that first flight," May said. "We're in an environment these days where all of those things are important. We're thinking, in order to come in on budget, you're not going to want to have to do a lot of development to get it there for the first flight. We're really looking for something that is an existing capability with really only minor [changes]."

    NASA's requirements state the interim upper stage must be hydrogen-fueled, rated for human launches, and capable of at least three ignitions with power the change the 26.5-ton Orion spacecraft's velocity by more than 6,800 mph.

    Spaceflight Now | Breaking News | NASA's huge rocket needs engine with flight heritage

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    ENT we are not done. I supported you on serious issues. You stabbed me in the back.
    Falklands does not need a wnkr like you. Or Gibraltar. Shame on you. What we do with turncoats. I can tell you. We make you listen specific Abba record over and over again. Much more effective than the old waterboarding thing.
    What are you on about "stabbing you in the back"? When, where?

    I referred to Cthulhu (aka quack quack, le canard), as a Sheisskopf.
    OK. I am happy to hear that. I thought you called me some austrian schweisse as I actually do speak german or did when I was in uni.

    Misunderstanding then - we still fok argies together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostromo View Post
    I dont give a fuck what you think. Bastard. I think you will find what that means in German.... Right then have you been to Asia?
    In German? Which part of that sentence was allegedly in German, or did you just make an attempt to call me Hurensohn? Sehr declassé.

    OK, so you don't really speak any language well.. So be it. Just stop ridiculing yourself, at least.

    Yes, I have been to Asia. Have you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostromo View Post
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    If all households took personal responsibility in generating domestic use energy via wind and solar panels, we would not need nuclear power.
    That would give you approx 6 minutes of aircon. Per day. If it is sunny. I did the math working out energy required for laptop, satellite terminal, and a lamp. Solar panel mat we needed just happened to be out of stock as US army bought all of them (it was during the war). We did get couple by threats and bribery though, and say, 70 watts on broad sunshine - and at that time these were the absolute top end - can charge and run essentials. but need batteries and things in between. Now the reality is, current commercial solar panels are just not yet capable to produce energy required by common household

    "it was during the war"

    Which one?

    It must have been a while back.

    PVP's these days are far more efficient than the old silicon jobs.

    TiO2 nano tech. chlorophyl PVPs are the new way.
    Cheaper to produce, work at very low light levels, thus effective all day as well as overcast days and don't rely on peak sunlight hours at mid-day for maximum effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostromo View Post
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    I referred to Cthulhu (aka quack quack, le canard), as a Sheisskopf.
    OK. I am happy to hear that. I thought you called me some austrian schweisse as I actually do speak german or did when I was in uni.

    Misunderstanding then - we still fok argies together.
    Cool, I'll take the women, you can do what you like to the men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nostromo View Post
    OK. I am happy to hear that. I thought you called me some austrian schweisse as I actually do speak german or did when I was in uni.
    Let me help you out here - no, you don't speak German. At all. If you interpreted what ENT said as directed *at* you, then you don't speak it (or, read it) with any reasonable expectation of comprehension. Not even close.

    ... and you tried to imply that you could proofread what I wrote??? And detect "errors"??? Please, don't be silly. That's like Butterfly expecting people to believe that he's French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu View Post
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    OK. I am happy to hear that. I thought you called me some austrian schweisse as I actually do speak german or did when I was in uni.
    Let me help you out here - no, you don't speak German. At all. If you interpreted what ENT said as directed *at* you, then you don't speak it (or, read it) with any reasonable expectation of comprehension. Not even close.

    ... and you tried to imply that you could proofread what I wrote??? And detect "errors"??? Please, don't be silly. That's like Butterfly expecting people to believe that he's French.
    Butterfly is Belgian. Ich spreche deutsch but as I said, very very long time in uni. It was 800 years ago, other details do escape me but I do recall the specific day, the smell of the flowers.... and the ladies in white. And the ladies in white. And there were the ladies in white. And while we went inside, the ladies in white did....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    I referred to Cthulhu (aka quack quack, le canard), as a Sheisskopf.
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    OK. I am happy to hear that. I thought you called me some austrian schweisse as I actually do speak german or did when I was in uni.

    Misunderstanding then - we still fok argies together.
    Cool, I'll take the women, you can do what you like to the men.
    Shoot them? I much rather like the ladies.... say we divide the country to north and south. I like south, so you can have north. Excluding any rights to any oil fields in south or north which are to be shared between us and BP. And there is an Astute class sub about, greatest sub in the world, could kill half a world. as John Lennon said.... nothing about this, but I still do listen to him

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    OK, if you throw in Patagonia too. I've got family who run beef there, so I'll chuck ya a few steak every so often. Cool?
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    I feel happy for the Nips, I just hope it goes well for them, I like them a lot.
    In my mind's eye I see them eating and know how they feel .....

    The first seafood caught off the Fukushima coastline since last year's Japanese nuclear disaster has gone on sale.

    The first fishing catch from Japanís Fukushima coastline since last yearís nuclear disaster went on sale Monday, but was limited to octopus and marine snails because of persisting fears about radiation Photo: AP
    7:58AM BST 26 Jun 2012
    Octopus and whelk, a kind of marine snail, were chosen for the initial shipments because testing for radioactive caesium consistently measured no detectable amounts, according to the Fukushima Prefectural fishing co-operative. They were caught on Friday.
    Flounder, sea bass and other fish from Fukushima cannot be sold yet because of contamination. It was unclear when they will be approved for sale as they measure above the limit in radiation set by the government. The government is testing for radioactive iodine as well, but its half-life is shorter than caesium and thus is less worrisome.
    "It was crisp when I bit into it, and it tasted so good," said Yasuhiro Yoshida, who oversees the seafood section at York Benimaru supermarket in Soma, which sold out of about 65 pounds of the snails and 90 pounds of the octopus that had been shipped to the store.
    First seafood caught off Fukushima since Japan nuclear disaster sold - Telegraph

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    OK, if you throw in Patagonia too. I've got family who run beef there, so I'll chuck ya a few steak every so often. Cool?
    OK with condition. You better take me to best South Am steak dinner. If we are agreed with that, we have a deal.

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    Ok, it's a deal, but ya gonna have to speak Welsh.

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    Right I, I, will do my best. And while in Swansea Vehicle Licensing Centre I was very much in touch with the.... Is that OK?

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    But this Astute class (UK) sub can kill half the world - if that was required, hope not - but
    She is beautiful as much as powerful and capable of killing. Highest end in everything. 100 light years above LA class.
    http://www.naval-technology.com/proj...-submarine.jpg

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    Should have posted that to Falklands thread?

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    Probably.

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    Funny thing is, some bloke send me a red, for what? Argie shite?
    idiot shit in news 08-07-2012 04:52 PM robuzo You piece of shit coward.

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    ^Go ask me in the MKP thread you are responsible for, clown.

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