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See the BBC Wikileaks SD. (not that I believe Wikileaks though - I suspect its subterfuge - but who knows?)

Red Shirt leader reiterates soldiers killed people in temple


Red Shirt leader reiterates soldiers killed people in temple


วันพฤหัสบดี ที่ 23 ธ.ค. 2553

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BANGKOK, Dec 23 – Anti-government 'Red Shirt' United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) leader Jatuporn Prompan claimed again on Wednesday that soldiers from the Special Warfare Centre in Lop Buri confessed to the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) that they fired the shots into the grounds of Wat Pathumwanaram from the Bangkok Mass Transit elevated Skytrain railway track on May 19 which killed six people.

Mr Jatuporn, opposition Puea Thai party list member of parliament, said the DSI investigation report he obtained on the killing of six people sheltering at Wat Pathumwanaram near Ratchaprasong intersection and the death of Hiroyuki Muramoto, Japanese cameraman working for Britain’s Reuters news agency were deemed to have been done by government security personnel.

He said, according to the DSI investigation, soldiers from the 3rd Special Warfare Regiment in Lop Buri told DSI investigators that they fired from the elevated BTS Skytrain rail track into the compound of Wat Pathumwanaram, where a large number of protesters retreated for safety at the end of the UDD rally on May 19.

Mr Jatuporn said according to the circumstances of the case and witnessed as well as evidences, it could be believed that the security personnel carryng out their duties were responsible for the deaths.

The cases should be given to the agencies concerned to proceed with the application of criminal law, he said.

Mr Jatuporn said that he has more documents related to government and the military orders to the soldiers to contain the areas where the rally was staged that led to the deaths of 91 people.

All documents would be submitted to the Army commander-in-chief at the Royal Thai Army headquarters at 10am on Friday, he said.

Mr Jatuporn urged the government to take responsibility for the deaths of the Red Shirt supporters “as the DSI has indicated that the deaths were done by the soldiers and the cases should be sent to court for the truth and justice.”

He also commented on report that only some Red Shirt leaders--Weng Tojirakan and Korkaew Pikulthong --would be granted bail, saying that it was a plan to make the rift among the Red Shirts.

Meanwhile, acting UDD chairperson Thida Thavornset said until now there was no bail request submitted as the lawyers and families of the detained Red Shirt leaders would individually submit their petitions.

However, she said that additional document would be added in the request, including the recommendations of the Truth for Reconciliation Commission which is chaired by Kanit na Nakorn which advised to temporally release the Red Shirt leaders and the document of Center for the Resolution of Emergency Situations (CRES) which said it had no objection if they were released.

Other documents from international human rights organisations would also be included in the request, she said.

Mrs Thida said the UDD would rally on the 10th and 19th of every month and that the demonstration would be carried out peacefully and under the law.

Acting UDD spokesman Worawut Wichaidit said the next rally would be Jan 9 at the Democracy Monument. The gathering would start at 3pm before moving to Ratchaprasong intersection at 5pm before ending at 8pm. (MCOT online news)

I'm just waiting for General nutter to come out and say: "Okay we did it. Watcha gonna do about it, huh? Watcha gonna do about it reds! Huh, Huh??"

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

"Okay we did it. Watcha gonna do about it, huh? Watcha gonna do about it reds! Huh, Huh??"

Another thai general nutter.
every bugger knows the army killed the 90 odd innocent protestors and the journalists, on abis command.
Live fire zones mean what they say.
In international eyes - GUILTY as charged

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

“I can categorically deny that the army has killed or hurt any Red Shirts or protesters, including the Japanese journalist,”

Oh puhlleeeez. Amazing Thailand.
You just couldn't make this stuff up.
TH, do you think he's telling the truth?

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/loca...be-dsi-reports

Prayuth asked to probe DSI reports

• Published: 24/12/2010 at 12:02 PM
• Online news:

The anti-government United Front for Demcracy against Dictatorship on Friday submitted a letter to army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha asking him to look into Department of Special Investigation's reports on military actions taken against the red shirts during the April-May protests.

The letter was submitted by UDD spokesman Worawut Wichaidith, who was accompanied by about 20 red shirts, and received by Maj Benja Plook-aram, a senior army duty officer.

Mr Worawut said the letter to Gen Prayuth was accompanied by a copy of Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban's order for the DSI to investigate military operations against the red shirts during April-May and the deaths of six people in Wat Pathumwanaram temple on May 19 and Japanese photo-journalist Hiroyuki Muramoto at Khok Wua intersection on April 10.

Gen Prayuth was asked to look into the DSI reports and provide explanation on the reported military actions, he said.

The UDD spokesman also called for a House dissolution and new general election to return justice to the people.

Mr Worawut reaffirmed that the red shirts would rally on Jan 9, not Jan 10 as earlier scheduled, in remembrance of those killed on April 10.

http://www.tannetwork.tv/tan/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1038912

Deputy PM Raps Red-shirt MP for "Lying"

UPDATE : 24 December 2010

The deputy prime minister in charge of national security has lambasted Pheu Thai Jatuporn Prompan, saying he has a habit of lying to blame authorities for the deaths of red-shirt supporters.

Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban lashed out at red-shirt MP Jatuporn Prompan, saying that Jatuporn has a habit of mud slinging and lying as his intention is to blame security officials for the deaths of red-shirt supporters, particularly at the Patumwanaram Temple.

Suthep also claimed that documents produced by Jatuporn are not case files belonging to the Department of Special Investigation, or DSI, because they have yet to be completed.


Suthep said no one has never seen the original case files.

The deputy PM also dared Jatuporn to prove the authenticity of his documents.

Asked whether he would file a lawsuit against the red-shirt MP, Suthep said the decision is entirely up to those whom Jatuporn has referred to.

Suthep insisted that if the investigation showed security officials were involved in the deaths of red-shirt members, he, as the former head of the now defunct Center for the Resolution of Emergency Situation, would take responsibility.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home...-30145118.html

300 red shirts protest in front of Army base in Lop Buri

Lop Buri - Some 300 red-shirt people staged a noisy protest in front of the 3rd Special Warfare Regiment Friday morning.

The protesters cited the leaked reports of the Department of Special Investigation as the cause for the protest.

The report blamed the military for the deaths of several red shirts.

The angry protesters shouted loudly that troops killed innocent people. Some shouted that troops were trained just to kill people.

They laid black wreaths with the names of Army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha and some troops mentioned by the DSI reports in front of the regiment.

They earlier laid black wreaths with the names of Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban and DSI Director-General Tharit Pengdit in front of the provincial hall.

The Nation

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Suthep said no one has never seen the original case files.

Not even the author, no doubt.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

The deputy PM also dared Jatuporn to prove the authenticity of his documents.

At the end of the day, how do they seriously expect to be able to appeal to voters around the country if they are such a pack of bare faced liars??

Everybody knows the Army shot protesters dead you twits

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home...-30145106.html

'Leaked' reports blame military for some crackdown deaths

By Pravit Rojanaphruk
The Nation
Published on December 24, 2010

Documents supposedly leaked from the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) appear to place the blame for most of the deaths in the April-May military crackdown firmly on the military.

The set of documents, purported to be investigation reports by the DSI, covered the deaths of 16 people killed in demonstrations between April and May. The reports conclude that the deaths of at least 13 of these victims were "likely caused by soldiers" deployed and acting on duty.

The reports, obtained by The Nation from a reliable source who asked not to be identified, were cross-checked and confirmed as being authentic by at least one witness, German photographer Nicolas Nostitz, who was interrogated by the DSI.

The 10 case reports covering 16 deaths include a DSI conclusion that the death of Japanese photographer Hiroyuki Muramoto of Reuters News Agency on April 10 "likely occurred from the actions of Army officer(s) acting on their duty".

After considering evidence and statements by many, the reports also concluded that three of six deaths at Wat Pathum Wanaram on the evening of May 19 were also "likely the work of [security] officers carrying out their duties".

All 10 leaked reports, which cover 16 deaths, contained detailed accounts by witnesses, and most of the investigations were concluded in November.

In the case of the action at Wat Pathum Wanaram, the document cited five soldiers-cum-witnesses who admitted having fired live ammunition towards the temple area on that fateful evening.

Witness No 32, a Special Forces soldier whose name is withheld by The Nation, stated that he "fired warning shot(s) towards the wall of Wat Pathum Wanaram" with an M16A2 rifle.

While none of the five admitted causing any deaths or injuries, some witnesses cited in the report claimed they actually saw soldiers shoot some of the six people who died.

Civilian witness No 25, whose name is withheld by The Nation, stated: "The witness saw soldiers on the Skytrain track shooting towards the medical-aid tent [in front of the temple] and saw Ms Kamolkaet [Akhad] and another medical volunteer being shot at in the tent, and [they] later died. The other person's name was later discovered to be Mr Akaradet Kankaew."

Another witness, No 23, said he was shot and injured three times by six men in camouflage uniform on the Skytrain track. "The men on the track shot another round but missed me," he was quoted on page 8 of the report.

The report also stated that among evidence in the temple case were recorded "moving pictures" of the incident and forensic reports revealing that a number of wounds were sustained from high-speed bullets fired from a high angle.

In the case of Japanese photographer Muramoto, the report contained a witness account stating that bullets were seen fired from the soldiers' line towards Muramoto with light flashing from the gun barrels. This matched the last part of the video footage from Muramoto's camera, which identified him as being in a crowd of red shirts when he fell.

Witness No 3, a police officer who was near Muramoto, was quoted in part of the report: "The witness saw soldiers placing rifles aimed at the body-level of the witness. At that moment, he heard a sound of a hard object hitting the ground and [he] saw a foreign reporter - later identified as Mr Hiroyuki Muramoto, who was carrying a large video camera - falling on his back on the footpath with his head pointing towards Satriwitaya School's gate."

The source of the leaked report also told The Nation that all the files, both in Thai and English, would be uploaded on a yet-to-be-identified site by today.

DSI: Investigation of death of Japanese cameraman has not yet concluded


DSI: Investigation of death of Japanese cameraman has not yet concluded


วันศุกร์ ที่ 24 ธ.ค. 2553

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BANGKOK, Dec 23 - Thailand's Department of Special Investigation (DSI) chief on Friday dismissed accusation of a key Red Shirt leader that the department’s investigation accounts stated that a Japanese cameraman was killed by Thai troops during the May political disturbance, saying the investigation on the case has yet to conclude.

The DSI chief made remarks following the claim of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) co-leader Jatuporn Prompan that he obtained a DSI report on the killing of six people sheltering at Wat Pathumwanaram near Ratchaprasong intersection and the death of Hiroyuki Muramoto, Japanese cameraman working for Britain’s Reuters news agency, which were deemed to have been done by government security personnel.

Mr Tharit however asserted, as investigator chief, that the DSI has never concluded that the troops killed the people. He said the case was sent back to the national police bureau to conduct more investigation as the fact and evidence are still insufficient.

No agency has made a conclusion on the death of the Japanese journalist, reaffirmed the DSI chief.

Mr Tharit added that the information which Mr Jatuporn presented to the public was not DSI investigation accounts, but was made up and compiled by the Red Shirt leader himself, an action which was considered as making false evidence to convince the investigators to believe that the offense had been conducted.

He said Mr Jatuporn could face up to a two year jail term for presenting false information, according to the investigator chief.

"The DSI will also file further charge against Mr Jatuporn for disclosing confidential documents if he claimed the information he obtained was the DSI investigation accounts," stated Mr Tharit.

With Mr Jatuporn's latest moves, Mr Tharit said the investigators agreed that the Red Shirt leader meddled with the evidence and justice process, intentionally distorted information to cause the public misunderstanding and damage to the country, as well as slandered state officials.

"As investigator chief, I will seek court approval again on Monday to withdraw the bail of Mr Jatuporn because he continued his movement while being released on bail," said Mr Tharit.

DSI earlier sought court approval to revoke bail of the UDD core leader saying he had threatened the department's witness and slandered concerned authorities but the Criminal Court rejected the petition.

Mr Jatuporn was the only Red Shirt leader, apart from former UDD chairperson Veera Musikapong, who has been released on bail as he has parliamentary immunity. (MCOT online news)

Originally Posted by Mid

According to Reuters, the report said there was not enough evidence to come to a conclusion about who was responsible for the other three deaths in the temple, but it said all six victims were hit by high-velocity bullets.

Maybe the other three deaths were just an unlucky coincidence, or will it be three suicides in their next official report?

Lets face it...these so called official reports aren't worth wiping your arse on!

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2010...-30145154.html

Leaked DSI report reveals shooting of teenager

By Pravit Rojanaphruk
The Nation
Published on December 25, 2010

Of the 10 cases in the leaked Department of Special Investigation (DSI) report on the military crackdown on red shirts was the little-known death of the 14-year-old orphan, Kunakorn Srisawan - probably a bystander who was mowed down by a soldier's bullets on May 15.

The "leaked" report concluded that "there exists reasonable evidence" to suggest Kunakorn was killed when soldiers were shooting at a van during a stand-off near the Rajprarob Rail Road's Airport Link area in the early hours of May 15. Kunakorn had apparently run away from the International Muslim Foundation Orphanage.

Witness Number 4, whose name is being withheld, said: "The van was hit on its wheels and [the witness] saw three soldiers shooting at the vehicle continuously.

After the shooting ended, a soldier used the butt of his gun to smash the left window and drag the person onto the military's truck, which took the injured to Phya Thai 1 Hospital," the witness said, adding that Kunakorn was one of the injured put on the military truck. "The soldiers gave no warnings for the car to stop before opening fire."

However, another witness said the soldiers issued verbal warnings before they opened fire. According to the autopsy report, Kunakorn died in hospital of gunshot wounds from a high-velocity bullet to his abdomen.

Witness Number 5 said he had seen the boy milling around the soldiers' bunker and had tried to talk him into leaving the area but failed.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/poli...new-dsi-strife

Jatuporn faces new DSI strife

• Published: 25/12/2010 at 12:00 AM
• Newspaper section: News

The Department of Special Investigation is preparing to take action against opposition MP and red shirt protest leader Jatuporn Prompan on charges of tampering with evidence.


Representatives of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship want army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha to clarify allegations that soldiers were ordered to shoot at red shirt protesters during the April-May rallies. An officer receives their request at army headquarters on Ratchadamnoen Avenue in Bangkok. CHANAT KATANYU

DSI director-general Tharit Pengdit said yesterday he would also file a request on Monday with the Criminal Court to revoke Mr Jatuporn's bail.

Mr Jatuporn claimed he had three documents which prove troops killed members of the public during the anti-government protests in April and May.

He said the evidence included statements by soldiers, reports by the DSI on the six deaths at Wat Pathum Wanaram on May 19 and the death of a Japanese cameraman on April10, and statements from troops who were ordered to reclaim areas occupied by the red shirts.

The UDD leader passed the evidence on to the Reuters news agency, which has distributed it among the international media.

Mr Jatuporn presented the information to the Thai media on Thursday at a two-hour news conference.

The DSI chief accused Mr Jatuporn of producing the documents himself, as DSI investigators had not concluded that soldiers had attacked members of the public.

The department's findings were insufficient to conclude the investigation, he said, so it had asked the Royal Thai Police Office to carry out additional inquiries.

"What Mr Jatuporn [allegedly] did is tantamount to violating Section179 of the Criminal Code for producing fake evidence.

"This is liable to a two-year term of imprisonment," Mr Tharit said.

Mr Jatuporn is free on bail after he was charged with terrorism offences after the anti-government protests led to riots, shootings and arson in Bangkok and other provinces in April and May.

Mr Tharit said Mr Jatuporn had clearly violated his bail conditions if he had tampered with evidence.

A group of 20 red shirt protesters filed a demand yesterday with army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha asking him to clarify claims that soldiers were ordered to fire on people during the demonstrations. The group outside the army headquarters yesterday was led by Worawut Wichaidit, who said he wanted the army chief to clarify what happened when soldiers carried out operations against the protesters in April and May.

http://www.mcot.net/cfcustom/cache_page/147685.html

Jatuporn insists documentation of troops killing protesters genuine

วันเสาร์ ที่ 25 ธ.ค. 2553

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BANGKOK, Dec 25 -- A key leader of the anti-government movement insisted Saturday that documents which he had leaked to the public regarding troops killing anti-government protesters earlier this year were genuine and that he was ready to reveal them all during a debate in the lower house as he has parliamentary immunity.

Jatuporn Prompan, a key leader of the 'Red Shirt' United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), told journalists that what he had told a press conference earlier this week was “only a part of all the genuine documents” which proved that government troops killed UDD members during the anti-government protests in April and May.

The reports which Mr Jatupron claimed to possess were published by Department of Special Investigation (DSI) and were believed to concern the death on April 10 of a Japanese cameraman identified as Hiroyuki Muramoto who worked with Britain’s Reuters news agency along with six deaths at a Buddhist temple in the Thai capital on May 19 -- the day troops clashed with protesters.

Challenging Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva not to dissolve the House of Representatives to evade the charges levied by the UDD, Mr Jatuporn, also an MP of the opposition Puea Thai Party, said he would find more evidence to fight charges against the government and that he would not escape if DSI decides to ask the Criminal Court to revoke his bail.

DSI chief Tharit Pengdit, meanwhile, said he would file a request next Monday with the Criminal Court to revoke Mr Jatuporn’s bail on the grounds that the latter had tampered with evidence.

Neither DSI nor government security agencies have announced any conclusion that government troops killed people during the protests, said Mr. Tharit, adding that what Mr Jatuporn did could violate Section 179 of the Criminal Code for producing falsified evidence.

Mr Tharit said his agency had forwarded the case to the Royal Thai Police Bureau to wrap up the case and that the DSI was awaiting the outcome. (MCOT online news)

Does the "DSI" really think this little shell-game of "leaking" info about army "possible" shootings is going to fool anyone into thinking they are actually a 'neutral' body?

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Does the "DSI" really think this little shell-game of "leaking" info about army "possible" shootings is going to fool anyone into thinking they are actually a 'neutral' body?

the nation will hold a poll and result. no one belives what reds are saying .
next

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But they believe what yellow's are saying?

Bow down over here..

America's awakened..Thaihome's workin on xmas day.. (Jew?)

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2010...-30145205.html

Leaked reports tie soldiers to two shooting

By Pravit Rojanaphruk
The Nation on Sunday
Published on December 26, 2010


Two of the 10 leaked reports purported to have come from the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) and recently obtained by The Nation reveal how live bullets were "likely used" on both a bystander and a red shirt, with investigators concluding both cases were likely the work of soldiers acting on orders.

In the case of Dusit Zoo keeper Mana Ajran, who was shot dead on the night of April 10 just outside the zoo, the leaked investigation document concluded that it was "likely" the work of one of the soldiers who "panicked", according to witnesses, after a dark-coloured pickup truck passed them and did a U-turn and was construed as an imminent threat.

Mana, who had just finished his work looking after the turtle pond inside the zoo, happened to be leaving the zoo's gate facing Parliament at around 11-11.30pm that night when the truck passed by. The soldiers panicked and shouted "here they come". Soldiers rushed into the zoo, then many shots were fired for several minutes only to later discover that Mana lay in a pool of blood with a high-velocity bullet piercing the back of his head.

Witness No 1, an employee at the zoo whose name is being withheld by The Nation, stated that he ran and cried out for help after he learnt that Mana was shot, only to be shouted back by a group of soldiers. "Do you want to die? Get back."

The report added that the area was occupied only by soldiers at the time and the bullet wound fits the statements by witnesses, while other witnesses who are soldiers admitted to carrying M16 rifles and other weapons. Thus the death of Mana is "believed to likely have been caused by a soldier claiming to be acting on duty".

In another case, which took place on May 13, a male red-shirt taxi driver by the name of Chartchai Salao was shot dead at around 10.50pm while using his video camera to take footage of a soldiers' barricade.

The barricade was on Rama IV Road about 100 metres away from the U Chu Liang Building. The report stated that since there were moving pictures of Chartchai being recorded when the incident took place and the bullet, according to the investigation, came from the direction of Rama IV Road. Witnesses, who are soldiers, confirmed that the area was under Army control, hence the death is "believed" to have been caused by a soldier acting on duty.

Chartchai was shot in the head. The traces of blood on the crime scene also suggested that the bullet came from Rama IV Road.

"Witnesses who are soldiers stated that troops were well-fortified at the barricade [on Rama IV Road] area and armed and that there was nobody

^ btw, the report ends in that rather odd way...I guess they'll update it later when they post the error...

Leaked DSI report reveals shooting of teenager
Pravit Rojanaphruk
December 25, 2010

Of the 10 cases in the leaked Department of Special Investigation (DSI) report on the military crackdown on red shirts was the little-known death of the 14-year-old orphan, Kunakorn Srisawan - probably a bystander who was mowed down by a soldier's bullets on May 15.

The "leaked" report concluded that "there exists reasonable evidence" to suggest Kunakorn was killed when soldiers were shooting at a van during a stand-off near the Rajprarob Rail Road's Airport Link area in the early hours of May 15. Kunakorn had apparently run away from the International Muslim Foundation Orphanage.

Witness Number 4, whose name is being withheld, said: "The van was hit on its wheels and [the witness] saw three soldiers shooting at the vehicle continuously.

After the shooting ended, a soldier used the butt of his gun to smash the left window and drag the person onto the military's truck, which took the injured to Phya Thai 1 Hospital," the witness said, adding that Kunakorn was one of the injured put on the military truck. "The soldiers gave no warnings for the car to stop before opening fire."

However, another witness said the soldiers issued verbal warnings before they opened fire. According to the autopsy report, Kunakorn died in hospital of gunshot wounds from a high-velocity bullet to his abdomen.
Witness Number 5 said he had seen the boy milling around the soldiers' bunker and had tried to talk him into leaving the area but failed.

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