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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranger View Post
    Aldhouse claiming innocence means the death penalty can be put back on the table?
    I doubt it. It'll be cushy Thai prison life for him for at least a few years. He seems to have wanted to go to Thailand and train to be a badass, so he's getting his wish, it's off to gladiator school with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    Why does a kick boxing champ need knives to defend himself.
    because he is a champion looser and there knows he needs tools


    Quote Originally Posted by Stranger
    Aldhouse claiming innocence means the death penalty can be put back on the table?
    Don't be silly. he could only extradited on a promise that he would not be executed under any circumstances. For the thai gov successfully completing an extradition under these circumstances is the kind of ego boosting recognition that they crave.... they will not want to fuck it for anything.

    besides there is a canadian who did a thaivisa mod job on his thai girlfriend, as in murdered and choped her up. the thai's have been trying to extradite him for over 10 years. if they handle the adhouse trial correctly, it will probably help them complete this extradition too.

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    Confessing usually means the sentence time is cut in half. He chose the wrong country to start telling stories.

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    ^I suspect the uk gov has expressed an opinion that beyond not executing him, they don't really give a stuff what kind of sentence aldhouse gets... the longer the better.

    If he had stayed and confessed, judging by past cases he could have got as little as 2-3 years. Given that he did not surrender, went on the run, embarrassed the bib and thailand, resisted extradition and is now winding the judge up.... i think we might all be pleasantly surprised at just how long he gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo View Post
    it's off to gladiator school with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trabant View Post
    The staff of the 7-Eleven threw a couple of knives to him, Aldhouse said. Back at the Freedom Bar, there was no sign of Longfellow.
    Makes no sense.

    The surveillance video at 7-11 shows him walking into the 7-11 and going to the "hot dog" section/grill and taking the knife. He took one knife, on purpose, on the video.

    That video is somewhere on the forum.

    He stabbed the victim in front of the victim's apartment.

    That is "lying in wait." Pre-meditated.

    Look for missing pet?

    And previously confessing.

    Not looking too good for this clown.

    Hope he gets life.
    ............

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    So let me get this straight;

    "The Pitbull" grabbed a knife from the hotdog section at the 7-Eleven and then went to search for his missing pet (dog)?

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    I don't know. If the pet was a mad pitbull with anger management issues then searching for it armed with a knife would be quite sensible.

    Judges Thailand might be many things, corrupt and venal come to mind, but I doubt they are stupid or take kindly to being treated as such by people who have not paid hansumly for the privilege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazz View Post
    Judges Thailand might be many things, corrupt and venal come to mind, but I doubt they are stupid or take kindly to being treated as such by people who have not paid hansumly for the privilege.
    Good point. He's treating them like complete idiots isn't he? This would be laughed out of any Western Court and I fully believe he will pay for pulling this little stunt.

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    At a guess, about 9-10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat View Post
    At a guess, about 9-10 years
    I seriously hope so.

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    I'm guessing 25 years

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    you can see the 2 knives thrown on the floor and alderhouse pick them up

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    He'll need the best bent brief in the business to get out of that one^

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    Bangkok Post advises that the next date for this trial is August 7.
    Another 5 months wait.
    Presume they remove the ankle shackles?

    Brit boxer denies killing US marine

    "Lee Aldhouse denied the charge of murder," his lawyer Kampon Siriwatunyoo said by telephone.

    If convicted Mr Aldhouse could face the death penalty or up to a life sentence in prison.

    The next hearing is scheduled for Aug 7, Mr Kampon said.
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    death penalty or not?

    While a murder charge carries the possibility of execution, British officials only agreed to extradite Aldhouse as long as he didn’t face the possibility of the death penalty, a source told the Daily Mirror.
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    Although murder is punishable by the death penalty in Thailand, and Mr Longfellow's family have called for him to be executed if found guilty, the Thai authorities have said Mr Aldhouse will not face death by lethal injection.
    BBC: Prosecutor Chiengsan Panya said he could face the death penalty or a life sentence in prison if convicted.
    However, the Home Office said they had been given assurances by the Thai authorities that Mr Aldhouse would not face execution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorenzo View Post
    I'm guessing 25 years

    His ex-girlfriends new boyfriend is probably hoping for that as well

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    I think some of you are under the the illusion that the thai's have some interest in justice over this affair. chalerm's police instructor son tells you everything you need to know about thai justice.

    The reality is that they probably have negotiated a deal with the UK government that will see aldhouse get the longest possible sentence, including the time awaiting extradition that will allow them to convict him and send him almost immediately back to the UK to serve the sentence. Which will be significantly more justice than any US court has given to british victims of criminals living in the US.

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    ^ 15-20 is the range if found guilty according to the prosecutor"
    Aldhouse faces charges of premeditated murder under Section 288 of the Thai Criminal Code. The penalty for that charge is death or a term of imprisonment of 15 to 20 years, Tawan Sukyiran, the public prosecutor assigned to the case, confirmed to the Phuket Gazette.
    There was a new story last year of a Swedish national, he had to serve a minimum eight years in Thai jail before being transferred to Sweden to serve the balance of his sentence under the reciprocal imprisonment agreement between those two countries.
    Maybe there is a similar agt with UK? but don't think I've heard of UK prisoners in jail here getting sent 'home' early?

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    ^ and ^^

    here we go
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    1990 bilateral agreement between Thailand and the United Kingdom for the transfer of prisoners

    Article 3 (e) an offender may not be transferred unless he has served in the transferring state any minimum period of imprisonment, confinement or deprivation of liberty stipulated by law of the transferring state

    this link shows 12 UK prisoners have been transferred back since 1990 (but it's not dated re how current that figure is)

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    Quote Originally Posted by trabant
    Presume they remove the ankle shackles?
    Nope they stay on for those charged with murder.

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    The routine chaining of prisoners is one of those things you tend to only see in the third world and the US. Its a big no no in europe and it would be interesting to see if this is one of the things the thai's agreed to compromise on. After all as I understand it they have signed up to UN agreements not to do this and its continued use is simply a matter of the governments general lack of interest in the rule of law. As the rest of us see in their routine disregard to their own constitution when drawing up laws, rules and regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorenzo View Post
    I'm guessing 25 years

    the trouble with that type of sentence is that he may be able to transfer back to one of HM prisons after a couple of years

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    Anyone know where we can donate to Thai inmates to mess this wimp up?

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    The sentence would like be shorter if he had been caught before fleeing and the whole thing was kept relatively quiet. Just look at other sentences for some farang murderers in Thailand, under 4 years, even under 3 years in some cases. Farang murders farang and it's a case of never mind we don't want to deal with you, some cash and a few years and you're back home free.

    With the amount of press and government involvement the whole extradition circus caused is gonna bite him hard. With the governments and substantial media outlets watching I would expect around 15-20 years, then considerable time off (up to half) if he is smart enough to plead guilty.

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