Thread: Thailand : PREAH VIHEAR

So the ICJ basically told the Thai yellow fascists to fcuk off. Well done.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

So the ICJ basically told the Thai yellow fascists to fcuk off. Well done.

Good for them.
Yet, those same handful will be back in their attempts.

Would be insightful to explore Khun Charnvit Kasetsiri, the esteem Thai historian and Thammasat scholar who has fashioned a real sense to all this nonsense regarding the region. The originator of the "Back to Siam" movement.

His official website Welcome to www.charnvitkasetsiri.com เว็บไซท์ ดร.ชาญวิทย์ เกษตรศิริ and his associated FACEBOOK pages Charnvit KS and TeamCharnvitKasetsiri

Anything to keep the Hoopleheads distracted.
Would have been cheaper and easier though to just throw some handfuls of shiny 5 baht coins on the ground.

^Interesting stuff, RS. Thanks for sharing that.

Poll:

Thais somewhat satisfied with Phra Viharn ruling
Suwit Rattiwan

BANGKOK, 17 November 2013 (NNT) - A NIDA poll shows a large majority of Thais are moderately satisfied with the judgment of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) on the Phra Viharn case,but say any loss of land is unacceptable.

The poll, conducted by the National Institute of Development Administration (NIDA), finds that 57.6% of the respondents expressed moderate satisfaction with the ICJ judgment. 56.8% say they would not accept the court’s ruling if Thailand lost the land, smaller than one square kilometer, surrounding the Phra Viharn temple since they believe it is part of Thai territory.

On the court’s suggestion that the two countries manage the ancient temple together, 78.4% of the respondents agreed with it, saying that joint management could prevent conflicts while helping maintain good relations between Thailand and Cambodia.
Information and Source

thainews.prd.go.th

it is also more accesable from the Thai side

Originally Posted by toddaniels

Face it, it's a tough slog to get to the place from the Cambodian side but an easy drive thru a national park (which Thailand charges you to pass thru) from the Thai side.

When did that start? I went there back in 1999/2000 and was only met with checkpoints but no charges.

Originally Posted by toddaniels

While I could be mistaken on this I believe the original ruling in '62 had a TEN year appeal time limit!! Yet in those 10 years NOT a shred of paperwork was ever filed by Thailand.

What they did do was put up their own boundary after the ruling, which was on Cambodian territory, and declare it as the official one. This was quite rightly rejected by the ICJ.

The new ruling still provides some leeway for the Thais to save face on the Northern border.....just as long as they behave...

Cambodia Demands Thais Remove Fence Near Disputed Temple Site

Cambodia Demands Thais Remove Fence Near Disputed Temple Site
PHNOM PENH (DPA) — Cambodia has demanded that Thailand tear down a fence it says Thai forces erected last week on disputed border land near an 11th-Century temple, local media reported Monday.
The fence was erected on Wednesday and "violated the MOU (memorandum of understanding) from 2000" over the Preah Vihear temple site, foreign affairs spokesman Koy Kuong told The Cambodia Daily.

The 2000 agreement "says that the area has to remain status quo, meaning that there can be no development in that area," he was reported as saying.

Thailand's ambassador to Cambodia could not be reached for comment Monday.

While the temple complex falls inside Cambodia, there has long been a dispute with Thailand over ownership of an area of border land adjacent to it.

In November, the International Court of Justice in The Hague ruled that Cambodia's sovereignty extended to all of the natural promontory bearing the monument, but rejected Cambodia's claim to a nearby hill.

But the ruling did not map out what it meant by natural promontory, essentially leaving it to Thailand and Cambodia to decide on the ownership of most of a 4.6-square-kilometre plot of land adjacent to the temple that was the source of clashes in 2008.

Both countries accepted the court's decision peacefully as the sometimes fractious relations had improved since Yingluck Shinawatra became Thailand's premier. Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen is close friends with her brother Thaksin.

The fence was allegedly erected shortly after the ousting of Yingluck and a military coup in Thailand in May.

Cambodia Demands Thais Remove Fence Near Disputed Temple Site

Bet the junta has that covered already the nationalists will be so happy.

Originally Posted by misskit

But the ruling did not map out what it meant by natural promontory, essentially leaving it to Thailand and Cambodia to decide on the ownership of most of a 4.6-square-kilometre plot of land adjacent to the temple that was the source of clashes in 2008.

I'm pretty sure the ruling covered all but the northern boundary so it would be interesting to note where the Junta have erected the fence.

Rekindling the fire after the ruling is a good way of making enemies Mr Junta.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by misskit

Cambodia Demands Thais Remove Fence Near Disputed Temple Site

Cambodia Demands Thais Remove Fence Near Disputed Temple Site
PHNOM PENH (DPA) — Cambodia has demanded that Thailand tear down a fence it says Thai forces erected last week on disputed border land near an 11th-Century temple, local media reported Monday.
The fence was erected on Wednesday and "violated the MOU (memorandum of understanding) from 2000" over the Preah Vihear temple site, foreign affairs spokesman Koy Kuong told The Cambodia Daily.

This is fully expected really. The junta will push nationalism and ultra-royalism while removing freedom of speech and personal rights. This non-event at Preah Vihear has always been near the top of the PADites'/army's list for pushing blind nationalism as a distractor. I wouldn't be surprised if the junta try to engineer a little war here...

No border war, Thailand hasn't the troops, bit of shooting, normal, how many killed on the border last year. They won't push it to war, can't trust the local border troops to stay on side.
Don't get into a fight you may not win, if internal problems, why start trouble with someone else. Arms and munitions could cross that border in truck loads. It's not BKK, it's Issan, people have different loyalties. Jim

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Don't get into a fight you may not win, if internal problems, why start trouble with someone else.

Thatcher. Falklands War. Nationalism.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Don't get into a fight you may not win, if internal problems, why start trouble with someone else.

Thatcher. Falklands War. Nationalism.

Don't think the UK was endanger.
Just heard, army is confiscating fertilizer from some people, but many are happy the real army is here.
Yabba sellers have gone to ground, shit head bandits, from the high country have run back over the border.
Just maybe the illegal logging will be put on hold and I can get some workers.

It's a ill wind that gives no man no gain. Jim