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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveCM View Post
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    The tendency of clear red shirt/PTT/Thaksin supporters to call others biased and one sided is ironic.
    1. Which "clear red shirt/PTT/Thaksin supporters" do you have in mind - beyond those who have explicitly said that they support one or other of these?

    2. Are you deliberately grouping "red shirt", "PTT" and "Thaksin" as being one and the same thing - or is your "ironic" comment aimed at what you've decided are supporters of any one of the three?


    FWIW, I find "bias" pretty much a non-issue - outside of what's supposed to be responsible news reporting. After all, many millions of Thai clearly support Thaksin (in the same way that many millions clearly support Abhisit), so I'd think it's safe to assume that they too are "biased" - in that that's how they think and for their own reasons. In other words, it's their viewpoint or opinion. Should what they (or Teak Door members) think and say be airily dismissed because of that thinking - as in "Well, you would say that wouldn't you - so I don't even need to argue the point"?

    It's really rather tiresome to see someone's views and points dismissed and mocked merely because they express a different preference (and make their case for it). Is no further consideration let alone analysis or rebuttal of their view and case necessary? Are all those Thai supporters of Thaksin and Abhisit also to be ignored and scorned by those who differ - simply because they differ?

    As I see it, the bigger issue on Teak Door is not anybody's perceived or expressed "bias" one way or another, but rather the instances of closed-mind prejudice; as in pre-judging events, issues and others' comments solely on the basis of a pre-existing and seemingly immutable mindset. That's just blithely (and often abusively) dismissing alternative views and interpretations out of hand - based on who is saying something rather than on what is said. It's not only illogical - it's monumentally tedious and deters sensible discussion.

    Very good post. Most of people are biased (and flawed in character=humanity) but there is time to learn and to know. (sorry do I sound like Arthur C. Clarke here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buksida
    IMO Jatuporn is just another scumbag Thai politician and the red shirts role is to bring Thaksin back. If he returns as PM he will supress the media, ignore human rights and steal as much as possible, because that's what govts do here, haven't you noticed?
    and that's what the red loonies here keep forgetting,

    anyway, if he returns, he will be shot. He knows it. Maybe he is trying to be the new OBL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buksida
    the red shirts represent a reformist movement
    I don't see it that way. They just insist on their vote being respected, which I hardly see as a reformist agenda in a democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    They just insist on their vote being respected,
    maybe if they wanted their vote respected, they wouldn't need to sell them to the highest bidder like it has been proved many times over

    Money + Vote == No Legitimacy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buksida
    IMO Jatuporn is just another scumbag Thai politician and the red shirts role is to bring Thaksin back. If he returns as PM he will supress the media, ignore human rights and steal as much as possible, because that's what govts do here, haven't you noticed?
    The point is, he had the chance to and he didn't...

    Under MrT (who I don't like...) there was far far greater press freedom, far superior (though still not good) human rights and less (hard to believe, but true) corruption. The dems and their unholy alliance, controlled by the army, are the most corrupt, murderous and media clampdowning bunch in a few decades; make MrT seem like a kind bloke. Hard to believe, but true which is why the electorate kept voting him in whilst the dems have never been voted in although the army have put them into power several times (knowing the the dems do as they're told and can keep the status que; the problem being that they haven't kept the status que, they've set the country back decades in areas such as education - I teach the primary/secondary school teachers, and you cannot imagine the anger amongst them and the knowledge of how the 'elites' are trying to destroy education, amongst other areas...).

    Nice of you to bring out the MrT defence, but you'd think that 5 years after a coup that folk that lean towards other parties would be able to shout about something else...

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    nothing wrong with PT to win, but if their mandate is not to govern but to become a backdoor for Thaksin, then it will be legitimate to dissolve them or have another legal coup

    unfortunately, it's going to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    another legal coup
    You must be trolling... I'm of the opinion that you're a red shirt supporter and use irony to aid the cause. Good job, keep it up, Papillion.

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    ^ coup aren't illegal, but you knew that already

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    Mmm... None native speaker, so maybe it's an innocent error. Nevermind, keep up the good work, Paplillion - power to the people:


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    and yes, that includes people coup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Buksida
    IMO Jatuporn is just another scumbag Thai politician and the red shirts role is to bring Thaksin back. If he returns as PM he will supress the media, ignore human rights and steal as much as possible, because that's what govts do here, haven't you noticed?
    The point is, he had the chance to and he didn't...

    Under MrT (who I don't like...) there was far far greater press freedom, far superior (though still not good) human rights and less (hard to believe, but true) corruption. The dems and their unholy alliance, controlled by the army, are the most corrupt, murderous and media clampdowning bunch in a few decades; make MrT seem like a kind bloke. Hard to believe, but true which is why the electorate kept voting him in whilst the dems have never been voted in although the army have put them into power several times (knowing the the dems do as they're told and can keep the status que; the problem being that they haven't kept the status que, they've set the country back decades in areas such as education - I teach the primary/secondary school teachers, and you cannot imagine the anger amongst them and the knowledge of how the 'elites' are trying to destroy education, amongst other areas...).

    Nice of you to bring out the MrT defence, but you'd think that 5 years after a coup that folk that lean towards other parties would be able to shout about something else...
    So, Thaksin engaged in less human rights abuses (war on drugs, Tak Bai etc etc), Less media control (although he did engage in internet censorship, media control/threats...all documented) and there was less corruption, although as the Singapore diplomat Mr Kausikan did state...

    Moving on to Thailand, the newspapers cited cables detailing a September 2008 meeting with Mr Sedney in which Mr Kausikan labels former Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra as 'corrupt', along with 'everyone else, including the opposition'.

    https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...ml#post1626889

    And these are reasons to back Thaksin and not the Dem's? How about a novel idea...back neither! Both are just as bad as each other. Any sensible person wouldn't back either. A choice of shit or shit. Arguably the Dem's are the bigger pile of crap...but gee-whiz, it's a tough call.

    Yes, I know, imagine...not backing a side in this ridiculous farce, otherwise known as an election.

    What an original concept...

    Just out of (idle) curiosity...do you believe things will improve under a Thaksin/Yingluck government?

    I addressed this but none of the peanut gallery supplied any answers. For example, how will Thaksin deal with the military? I just don't see Prayuth rolling over to have his tummy tickled...

    The only (and obvious) solution is that Thaksin will have to deal with Prayuth (how is yet to be determinded, but removal from his position would be a good start). One of the promises he has made is to address the red shirt deaths of 2010, seemingly carried out by the military....which is soon to be his military.

    I'd love to know how he is going to investigate the red shirt deaths and be in charge of the military (the military is going to investigate itself? Here?)....I predict a face saving "reconciliation", a dodging of responsibility and carefully managed manipulation/massaging of the public. If he starts digging up the dirt, well, who knows what might happen....but I bet it is carried out at the end of a gun.
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    Your 'info' on MrT is nothing compared to the current lot, you should know that... MrT was bad, but this lot...

    You are right to highlight the army. Basically, MrT was chipping away at their power very well until Abhisit, PAD and the gullable Bkk middle class gave the army the go ahead to stage the coup and take Thailand back 20-30 years... Now, we are in an awful situation where ISOC have entrenched themselves and (with the help of unnamed others...) run the place as they please, including murdering Thais on the streets as previous military regimes (supported by the same unnamed group/s...) have done through the 70's and 80's (that's when they weren't fighting the Navy on the streets of Bkk for control of the drugs coming in through the Bkk ports...).

    You need to look at how the current mob are deconstructing the nation (through systematicall destroying education, total politcal control of the courts, jailing opponents, stopping freedom of speech - when exactly did MrT shut down the voice of the dems??? Never, is the answer, but the bloody etonite Abhisit had zero interest in campaigning outside of Bkk or building a strong opposition - prefered to back an army coup instead of democratically building an opposition that was attractive to the electorate; are you blind to these 'minor' details???) in order to run the place indefinately... MrT for all his sins, never went down that route - and that, Sir, is what the electorate knows, but naive Bkk farangs fail to see...

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    ^I don't disagree with most of what you've written, although you appear to think I do...although I think you are somewhat naive on aspects and minimise others (btw, has Abhisit shut down the voice of Pheu Thai, as you seem to make a comparison. Worth reading this when you have a minute...about what Thaksin did with community radio, lots of news clippings there Community radio | 2Bangkok.com)

    However, that still doesn't answer my question. You simply covered ground that is already well known. How will Thaksin deal with the all powerful military? Especially when it comes to investigating the red shirt murders?

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    ^ I was simply pointing out that the army problem, which is a massive problem, is directly due to Abhisit, PAD and Bkk fools...

    The army problem is not an easy fix, but a certain event will go some way to taking away their power. The enemies that Prayuth has made within the army will be another massive problem for him, moveing forward.

    Thailand needs the army/PAD controlled senate kicked out, then elected. Thailand needs the corrupt judges kicked out and then a start to rebuild the instituitin can be made. Thailand needs the DSI unshackled from politics and left to do its job. Thailand needs ISOC put back into civillian control, not army control. All of these areas are ones that an elected government can and should (Abhisit should have...) deal with. Not easy, but a start can be made, then after 5 years or so, if all goes well, we will be back where we were before the coup... The coup and people who supported it have raped this country in every way: financially, democractically, instituitionally, morally, murderously...

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    Bangkok Post : Jatuporn to seek release to register

    Jatuporn to seek release to register

    Red-shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan will ask the Criminal Court on Wednesday to allow him out of prison to attend the registration of party-list candidates for the general election, even though the law does not require applicants to appear in person at the application venue.

    His lawyer Winyat Chatmontri said on Monday said Mr Jatuporn wants to exercise his right to register his candidacy personally.

    The Election Commission will begin accepting registration of candidates on party lists on Thursday, May 19, at the Thai-Japanese Stadium in Din Daeng.

    Mr Jatuporn, a Pheu Thai party-list MP in the recently dissolved House, is facing terrorism-related charges for his leadership in red shirt-rallies last year which ended in violent chaos.

    He had been granted bail, but it was revoked last week when the Criminal Court ruled he broke his bail conditions in comments made during a speech to a red-shirt rally on April 10. The court ruled his speech could stir up unrest.

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    "even though the law does not require applicants to appear in person at the application venue."

    "Cameras ready, prepare the flash.."

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    ^ indeed.

    This arrest seems like another badly managed situation by the army/Suthep. I can't see how this damages the PT/reds; quite the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    This arrest seems like another badly managed situation by the army/Suthep. I can't see how this damages the PT/reds; quite the opposite.
    Arguably, it's win-win for Jatuporn. Photo-op if he's allowed to register in person - ready-made (if somewhat disingenuous) story of obstructing his democratic rights if he isn't.

    This is the sort of thing that smart political operators are supposed to avoid creating openings for; but then Prayuth, DSI & Co are supposed to be [cough] completely non-political aren't they? They've said so themselves..... so it must be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    Red shirt in Chiang Mai freed after over 5 months in jail | Prachatai English

    Red shirt in Chiang Mai freed after over 5 months in jail

    Sat, 04/12/2010 - 12:02

    Nikorn Srikamma has been set free after the court sentenced him to two years in jail, reduced to 6 months because he had confessed and behaved well.

    On 2 Dec, Nikorn, 29, a resident of Mae On district, Chiang Mai, was sentenced to two years in prison by the provincial court for violating the Emergency Decree. The jail term was commuted by half as he pleaded guilty, and was further reduced to 6 months for good behaviour during detention.

    The court set him free after handing out the verdict, as he had already been detained for over 5 months.

    He was released on probation, and was required to report to officials 4 times and to perform 20 hours of community service over the next two years.

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    A red shirt in Chiang Mai
    Tue, 17/05/2011

    Nikorn Srikamma, 29, was arrested in July last year for his participation in the red shirt rallies on 19 May in Chiang Mai, and jailed for nearly 5 months, before being released as his sentence was suspended by the court. On 7 May this year, he received a summons from the court attached to a copy of an appeal by the public prosecutor who considered that his sentence was too low.



    Before his arrest, he had worked as a labourer laying tap water pipes, and when the summons came he was about to return to the same job as a vacancy was available for work in the town of San Kamphaeng, not far from where he lives, Tambon Huai Kaeo in Mae On district. He worries that if he misses the job this time, he would probably never get the chance again.

    He lost one eye to a car accident about ten years ago, and he has two metal splices in his leg, which cause pain if he has to do hard work.

    While he was on remand last year, his family’s grocery shop had to close down for lack of labour, and their debt grew.



    On 2 Dec last year, the court sentenced him to two years in prison, but suspended it because he pleaded guilty. He was fined 3,000 baht and was released on a one-year parole. No prosecution witnesses were heard. His lawyer advised him to confess, because the evidence included a photograph of him holding a cigarette lighter at the scene.

    3 days before the verdict, when he was granted bail with the help of officials from the Ministry of Justice under the government’s ‘reconciliation’ policy, he responded to reporters’ questions, ‘This does not mean anything. I’ve not asked the Abhisit government to help me. Neither have my family. When they stepped in to offer help, I just accepted it.’ This answer did not get reported.

    After being a casual participant in political gatherings, Nikorn actively joined red-shirt rallies only last year. He said, ‘I don’t hate anybody. I joined the red shirts because I felt that this government did unjust things. I disliked it, so I came out.’

    Of course, Thaksin is his icon. Thaksin was the first prime minister, he said, to show him tangible developments, including, for example, replacing a rough gravel and concrete road to his village with an asphalt one in 2001, which reduces travelling time from hours to less than half an hour, the village fund, public health facilities, etc. Resorts, home-stay services and coffee orchards emerged with the influx of foreign tourists.

    Nikorn returned to Chiang Mai from the red-shirt rallies in Bangkok on the same day that Seh Dang was shot and killed. On 19 May, when a security booth in front of the Public Relations Office in Chiang Mai was set ablaze, he headed to the spot on his motorcycle with a slingshot he had brought back with him from Bangkok, despite a phone call from his mother warning him about police checkpoints blocking red shirts. He had just changed into a black shirt.

    He lives with his wife, who is a Thai Lue without an identification card, a 4-year-old daughter, and his parents, 63 and 61, who collect bamboo shoots when the season comes. He and his wife are hired from time to time to pick coffee seeds at another tambon about 20 kms away.



    To this day, he insists that he has nothing to ask from the government. But he wants his fellow red shirts to help find him a job or a scholarship for his daughter’s education.

    Reported by Prayun Kotekotha

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    Bangkok Post : Court approval sought for Jatuporn

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    Court approval sought for JatupornLawyers of the United Front for Demcracy against Dictatorship on Wednesday submitted a request with the Criminal Court, asking it to allow Jatuporn Prompan to go out of jail to apply for election candidacy on the Pheu Thai party list.

    Mr Jatuporn, a UDD core member charged with terriorism in connection with the violent protests of the red shirt in April-May last year, is being detained at the Bangkok Remand Prison after his release on bail was withdrawn for violating bail conditions.

    In the request filed by UDD lawyers Winyat Chartmontree and Karom Ponthaklang, the court was asked to order the Corrections Department and its officials to allow Mr Jatuporn to leave the prison to apply for candidacy in the July 3 election on the Pheu Thai party list.

    Mr Jatuporn would return to the prison after finishing with the application.

    The registration of applications in the party list system begins from tomorrow until May 23 at the Thailand-Japan Youth Centre at Din Daeng.

    The lawyers cited an earlier court order which allowed Korkaew Pikulthong, a UDD leader on terrorism charges, to leave the prison to apply to run in a by-election to support the request.

    The court was still considering the request.

    The lawyers said although the Election Commission made a resolution for the party leader or his representative to act for Mr Jatuporn, it was still necessary for him to sign on the letter of intention to apply for candidacy. Moreover, Mr Jatuporn wanted to file the application by himself, they said.

    They said an appeal for Mr Jatuporn to be released on bail would be filed before the end of this week.

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    Red shirt - Yahoo! News Photos


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    A Thai anti-government "red shirt" protester poses for photographers after visiting "red shirt" leaders held at Bangkok Remand Prison in Bangkok May 18, 2011. The "red shirt" protesters will stage a rally on Thursday to mark the one-year anniversary of Thailand's worst political violence that ended on May 19 last year. It will be the first big gathering ahead of July 3 elections. The protester is wearing mock chains to show his empathy with the plight of those at the prison. The words on his face read: "Meet Jatuporn (Prompan)" (top) and "Love".

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    Red Shirts anti-government protesters at Bangkok Remand Prison - Photos - BULGARIAN NEWS AGENCY

    Red Shirts anti-government protesters at Bangkok Remand Prison

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    Supporters of Red Shirt anti-government protest group shout and cheer as they wait for the release of political leaders outside the Bangkok Remand Prison, in Bangkok, Thailand, 18 May 2011. A lawyer of detained red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan asked the Criminal Court on 18 May 2011 to allow him to leave the prison to allow him to run in the general election under the Pheu Thai party list for the 03 July election, while the red-shirt protesters planned to mark the first anniversary on 19 May 2011 of the bloody crackdown at Ratchaprasong intersection last year. EPA/NARONG SANGNAK

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    Bangkok Post : Jatuporn denied release to register

    Jatuporn denied release to register

    The Criminal Court has refused to allow red-shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan to leave prison to register as a party-list candidate tomorrow, because the law does not require him to appear in person at the application venue.

    The judge said Pheu Thai can submit a list of its party-list candidates to election officials without the need for the candidates’ presence at the venue, the Thai-Japanese Stadium in Din Daeng.

    The court was not convinced by Mr Jatuporn’s petition citing the Criminal Court’s ruling last year that allowed another red shirt co-leader Korkaew Pikulthong to leave jail temporarily to register his candidacy in a by-election for a vacant Bangkok seat.

    Both Mr Korkaew and Mr Jatuporn were denied bail on terrorism charges for their actions during the red-shirt rallies from March to May last year that ended in violence.

    Mr Korkaew and Mr Jatuporn were both later granted bail, but Mr Jatuporn’s bail was revoked after he was found guilty of breaking a bail condition after addressing supporters of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship at an April 10 rally this year in a way the court agreed might lead to social chaos.

    His lawyers have said they will appeal the court’s revocation of bail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    Both Mr Korkaew and Mr Jatuporn were denied bail on terrorism charges for their actions during the red-shirt rallies from March to May last year that ended in violence.
    It's been almost a year now. When will they actually be tried for the crimes that they are accused of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    He broke a law.

    Now, if you or I break the law we would also go to prison.

    That's what happens when you break laws.
    How do you know he broke a law SD? Because the DSI - the wealthy establishment's steurmtroopers told you so?

    You really are becoming more brainwashed by the day aren't you? Maybe you've gone "native" - er.. "yellow native" to be precise.

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