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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    Interesting insight into how Thaksin controlled the media...now, who was it that was telling me he didn't again....?
    Well of course he did, SD. As do his predecessors and those decades before him, be they civil PMs, military dictators, etc. But we shouldn't pinpoint any such control that any perspective PM would have or not. That's not how it works - the system is owned and operated those forces of elite that we always suspect yet can't lay blame.

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    For what it's worth and an extended reference regarding New Mandala, both founders of this frisky online journal, Dr. Andrew Walker and Dr. Nicholas Farrelly have been "asked" not to attend next month's International Conference on Thai Studies at Mahidol University. Both were scheduled.....but learned they might be detained if arriving. Arrested, actually - as both are on the black list.


    Interesting take on the history of this rather scholarly symposium. Out of the eleven conferences, five have been hosted in Thailand, and usually have the most sensitive and careful planners, as broad subject matters are quite banal - compared to other lively Thai Studies Conference held elsewhere.


    One might ask: why bother if the principle model of any such gathering is to extend academic curiosity and critique.

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    ^ they should come; it'd be great timing; make sure the world press are waiting for them with the correct background info rather than the propaganda overdrive that the army/bluebloods will put out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveCM
    Edit to add: Not 100% clear, but it seems likely that the "thaicables" site either copied or was given this material by ex-Reuters correspondent Andrew M (MacGregor) Marshall. As some will already know, Marshall has been working on the release of material taken from a full set of Bkk Embassy/Chiang Mai consulate cables he has obtained - presumably with an accompanying article for context and analysis. The above cable is one of eight currently available on his site at Cables | Andrew MacGregor Marshall He is due to publish further cables in the coming days (particularly on Wednesday). Advance indications are that the subject matter will not allow them to reproduced here. According to his own Twitter comments, he also suspects that after publication he's unlikely to be allowed back into Thailand - or might well face arrest if he tried to return.
    From Twitter today:

    RichardBarrow Richard Barrow

    Likely to be the last time I can legally link to [at]ZenJournalist website on Wikileaks Thai cables Andrew MacGregor Marshall

    5 minutes ago


    ........

    Richard Barrow is not (IMO) being silly or paranoid. To judge from the advance billing, the content about to be posted (Wednesday) is likely to be explosive. People here can mock if they want to, but - if that expectation proves to be correct - I urge everyone to think very carefully before posting a link to that site as from tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveCM View Post
    From Twitter today:

    RichardBarrow Richard Barrow

    Likely to be the last time I can legally link to [at]ZenJournalist website on Wikileaks Thai cables Andrew MacGregor Marshall

    5 minutes ago


    ........

    Richard Barrow is not (IMO) being silly or paranoid. To judge from the advance billing, the content about to be posted (Wednesday) is likely to be explosive. People here can mock if they want to, but - if that expectation proves to be correct - I urge everyone to think very carefully before posting a link to that site as from tomorrow.

    Anyone seen the story yet?

    TH

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    1. A few ppl have noted that the entire twitter domain is being blocked by the Ministry of Internet Censorship Thailand for those on 3BB ISP

    2. If you are on 3BB, can u check if everything is blocked as per [at]LukeInTH 's tweet goo.gl/fqEOV Anyone not on 3BB with problem?
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    Broadcast media calls for press freedom


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    Published on August 26, 2011

    The Broadcast Journalist Association on Friday issued a declaration calling for a stop of what it called a challenge to press freedom.





    The declaration was issued after many media members received a forwarded note showing the picture and giving the name of the Channel 7 reporter, who recently asked a tough question of the prime minister.
    The note disclosed the reporter's name. "Remember her face and do something if you see her anywhere," it said.
    The Channel 7 reporter last week asked Yingluck whether she would amend the Constitution for former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Yingluck was reportedly upset by the question and walked away from reporters.
    The statement called for all parties concerned to realise that the press has duty to report, interview and question in order to obtain all the facts. They are not conflicting parties, therefore, they should not the targets of any threats or intervention.
    If they are threatened to the point where they could not freely perform their jobs, the public then would not be able to obtain the facts behind the stories.
    The statement also called for people who have different positions or political views to show understanding of the media's duties. They should also follow the news prudently and check the accuracy of the sources to avoid any violence.
    A group of journalists working at the Parliament on Thursday sent an open letter to the Prime Minister asking her to stop the challenge to press freedom on this matter.
    The journalists said they regarded the note as a threat to their freedom and profession. The government should put a stop to that threat, they said.

    Source : Broadcast media calls for press freedom

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    I hope the government listens, reopens the regional radio stations closed at gunpoint, and releases detained DJ's & journalists. The 'unspoken threat' to the Ch7 reporter is well out of order, and I don't see how the Reds are advancing their cause by copying the bullying tactics of the military and censorship police.

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    Where is Murdoch, or his ilk when you need him . They would have enough dirt on all the "reporters" and politicians to sort this out.

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    I don't see how the Reds are advancing their cause by copying the bullying tactics of the military and censorship police.
    Did they actually do anything? No doubt someone sent the letter if there is one but that could have come from the PAD or anyone that hates the government.

    As for Thailand, this nation is built to use the media to support people. You should know what that means. Using the same practice to help others can't be morally wrong unless you stop this silly practice all together.

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    US legal action on lese majeste

    A suit was filed on August 24, 2011 against Netfirms, Inc., a Canadian web hosting company incorporated in the United States, for releasing personal information to the Thai government. Netfirms’ disclosures allowed Thai officials to identify, detain, and interrogate the plaintiff, Mr. Anthony Chai, both in Thailand and on U.S. soil. These disclosures, without which Mr. Chai would have remained anonymous, resulted in the Thai government charging Mr. Chai with violating a Thai law that restricts free speech – ironically, for comments he wrote online criticizing that very law.

    The suit, filed in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California by the World Organization for Human Rights USA and the Law Office of Snell & Wilmer, alleges that the company’s conduct violated California state law, as well as Constitutional and international human rights law. “This case lies at the intersection of privacy guarantees, freedom of expression, international human rights law and the Internet. I am honored to work with Human Rights USA on this important case,” said M.C. Sungaila, Partner with Snell & Wilmer.

    US legal action on lese majeste

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    First known lese majeste arrest under Yingluck government

    A Thai lawyer says police have arrested a computer programmer on charges of insulting the nation’s revered monarch on a Facebook page. The charges carry a penalty of up to 15 years in prison.

    https://thaipoliticalprisoners.wordp...ck-government/

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    Thailand: ICT Ministry asked Facebook to block 26,000 URL in Aug-Sept & 60,000 URL in Oct-Nov /via [at]sunaibkk

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    Don't be fooled. There's a full-on assault against the people of Thailand by the 'loyal' yellow media in attacking the government they voted for by a landslide.

    Good old Amnesty Intl that didn't say shit about abused of LM law committed under the yellow Abhisit government - remember they said nothing (e.g. da torpedoe for starters and many more) - are now saying this - now that it's the Yingluck government's administration where LM convictions are handed down:

    (Source is AP via BP)

    Amnesty International’s Benjamin Zawacki condemned Wednesday’s verdict, accusing the government of suppressing freedom of expression.

    “Thailand has every right to have a (lese majeste) law, but its current form and usage place the country in contravention of its international legal obligations,” Mr. Zawacki told The Associated Press. “Repression remains the order of the day in Thailand on freedom of expression, and Amphon is a political prisoner.

    [end quote]

    So as we can see it's now both barrels at the repression of this government. Why speak out only now? Wasn't it TWICE as bad before under the Dems?

    As I've suggested before AI and (in my view though others disagree) HRW are both toeing the US State Dept line on who are their friends and who aren't.
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    Posting my Twitter tweet, as due to forum rules, I'd have to hack this to pieces.

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    Deafening silence to extremist proposal is worrying -The Nation 'burning issue' bit.ly/vC7iSY (on Mallika Boonmetrakul's crazy idea)

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    Posting my Twitter tweet, as due to forum rules, I'd have to hack this to pieces.
    Then obviously censorship in Thailand is winning. Because you feel you can't even talk about what the crazy idea is.

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    More about this lady here.

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    04/12/2011 : In 2004, then prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra was the first to ask her to get into politics, to run in her constituency in Phayao province.

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    Joe Gordon gets 2.5 years

    Thailand has jailed a US citizen for two and a half years after he admitted posting web links to a banned biography of King Bhumibol Adulyadej.

    Joe Gordon, a used car salesman from Colorado who was born in Thailand, admitted lese-majeste, or insulting the king, at an earlier hearing.

    He was sentenced to five years in jail, but the judges halved the term because of his guilty plea.

    The US consul general in Thailand said the sentence was "severe".

    "He was given the sentence for his right of expression," Elizabeth Pratt told reporters.

    "We continue to respect the Thai monarchy but we also support the right of expression which is internationally recognised as a human right."


    ...... He was arrested in May when he visited Thailand for medical treatment.

    He initially denied the charges, but said he changed his plea to guilty after being repeatedly refused bail.

    After being sentenced, he told the Bangkok court: "I'm not Thai, I'm American. I was just born in Thailand. I hold an American passport. In Thailand there are many laws that don't allow you to express opinions, but we don't have that in America."

    His lawyer said he would not appeal against the sentence, but would ask for a royal pardon.

    Foreigners convicted of lese majeste are routinely pardoned and deported shortly after being sentenced.

    BBC News - Thailand jails US man Joe Gordon for royal insult


    A concerning case for the many Thai nationals resident overseas, surely.

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    A concerning case for the many Thai nationals resident overseas, surely.

    The following quote from my Post #2751 yesterday (thread "Phue Thai Gears Toward Amnesty..........) is pertinent to your Post Sabang:
    • Censorship worse than ever. The PTP key figures regard this issue a lesser evil with which to mollify some people, while pursuing other initiatives. To prevent people from spouting off on certain issues is insignificant in the larger scheme of things. It is even affecting international sources, whereby they 'tag' certain individuals for special attention when or if they come to Thailand.
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    Bangkok Post : The lawful interception of civil rights

    MY TWO SATANGS

    The lawful interception of civil rights

    The World Wide Web is still very much the Wild West in terms of it being a fully functioning society free of problems.


    The military’s problematic surveillance airship.

    A 40-year-old American man from Georgia can convince the world that he is a Gay Girl in Damascus. Hundreds of confidential government cables can be Wiki-leaked for the world to read. And Facebook still can't figure out what kind of design people want to use when they're looking at photos of themselves.

    Basically, like the folks in charge of the eurozone, internet people have no idea what they are doing.

    That is, the internet people who don't live in Thailand.

    Over here in the Land of Reactionary Justice we know exactly what we are doing. We're kicking ass and taking names. And to make that job a little easier we're going to install some Lawful Interception (LI) systems to help us do a better job.

    In case you don't know, LI systems and other kinds of IT intrusion technology are the bogeyman of the online world. They can potentially penetrate any type of emails (Hotmail, Google, Yahoo). It can also allow the user to watch you as you Skype. So put your shirt back on.

    Furthermore, LI systems have been known to leave Trojan Horses on computers, enabling the recording of voice and video chats; they can watch you if your computer has a camera and can take full control of your PC and copy anything they find. And they can do this legally.


    The GT200 bomb detector which contains no actual technology.

    Scary stuff.
    Because the government knows that people are instantly suspicious of any new measure that could potentially threaten their civil rights, they did what they do best - they held a press conference.

    The head of the panel proposing the use of the 400-million-baht LI system, Chalerm Yubamrung, has confidently informed us that "to curb anxiety, I'd like to stress that the system must be applied under the law, which must be approved by the court. So there is no need to fear violations of rights."

    So, after basically reaffirming that the government will follow the law - something I would hope they didn't really need to clarify - Mr Chalerm hopes that we will all be satisfied that LI systems are a good idea.

    Now, I'm not here to talk about whether or not Thailand's laws are outdated, designed to benefit certain institutions, or if they are regularly abused and misinterpreted. I have no idea if that happens, although if it did it would make the business of LI systems a very touchy subject.

    For example, there have been accusations that during the Egyptian and Tunisian uprisings, their governments were using these types of systems to identify anyone stepping out of line on social networking sites, arresting them over emails and then giving them a stern talking to. Or something like that.


    Deputy PM Chalerm Yubamrung, who seems very keen about Lawful Interception.

    Despite the fact that Thailand still hasn't signed the Budapest Convention on Cybercrime, a treaty designed to combat online crime and also regulate powers and procedures related to Lawful Interception, I'm sure the government knows what it's doing.

    What I am more worried about is whether this is the right tool for the job, and can we trust the Ministry of Information and Communication Technology to use the system responsibly?

    LI systems are generally used to fight computer-related fraud, child pornography, hate crimes and violations of network security - all things that people are trying to hide. If you are online and trying to promote your political opinions to the world, the last thing you're doing is trying to hide.

    Also, given that 60,000 URLs have been blocked in the last three months, I think the government has bigger problems than weeding out a few emails. Is an expensive new system like this really what we need?
    Secondly, let's be honest. Does anyone really trust the government or the ICT to use this technology responsibly?

    It is not unheard of for LI systems to be subverted for illicit purposes by third parties. During the 2004 Olympics in Greece, the telephone operator Vodafone Greece was fined US$1,000,000 for failing to secure its systems against unlawful access that led to illegal wiretapping.

    Are there unscrupulous companies in Thailand that would like to take advantage of this technology? Who knows? Is the government capable of preventing unwanted hacks of the system? Well, if the prime minister can't even control her own Facebook page, then my confidence is lower than the temperature in Chiang Mai right now.

    To me, this seems like a bad idea. I don't know who stands to benefit from it, but doubt it is the people trying to hold up lese majeste laws, and I am certain it is not the public.

    The fact that the purchase of the LI system was approved so quickly, and with so little debate, is certainly something to be concerned about. When was the last time a hasty purchase such as this worked out as planned? For some reason, bomb detectors and army blimps spring to mind.


    Fake closed-circuit cameras that have been installed in various parts of the city.


    As have the dummy policemen.



    Arglit Boonyai is Multimedia Editor, Bangkok Post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    Does anyone really trust the government or the ICT to use this technology responsibly?
    Nope.
    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    but doubt it is the people trying to hold up lese majeste laws
    I'll be sure to tell Joe Gordon.

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    Yes I read it too. It's an attempt to say it doesn't benefit anyone - when in reality it benefits the triad in a big way.

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    the triad
    The Yellow Triad?

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    Corrupt Military-Bureaucracy (Amart) - Aristocratic families (na this, na that, bua this bua that) - and the established chinese/thai business families

    It's their interconnectiveity and inter-reliance that binds them together in mutual self-interest that forms the triad.

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    Cyber surveillance vulnerable to abuse - The Nation

    Cyber surveillance vulnerable to abuse

    Kavi Chongkittavorn December 19, 2011 1:00 am


    Every single day, the government is spending almost Bt1.5 million to block undesirable websites and close down web content.

    The several cyber surveillance units know full well their painstaking actions would not help curb or ameliorate any of their concerns. But they are all happy and proud of their works following orders. Better still, the annual budget for their activities which began in earnest in 2001 with a few million baht start-up has now reached an amazing half a billion baht yearly with a special war room at Ministry of Information and Communication Technology. Under the Yingluck government, the snowball effect is getting worse, the cybercrime units will be further boost with extra personnel and budget. After a new panel was set up recently to fight against anti-monarchy on the Internet and headed by mercurial Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung including the procurement of Bt400-million lawful interception (LI) system, now the government has the licence to prey on all forms of voice communications, e-mails, SMS massages and chat rooms. In nutshell, nothing is out of reach for interception orders.

    Thanked to the ridiculous ways the Thai bureaucrats think of Internet freedom and ways to control the flow of digital information, especially the anti-monarchy content, these money would obviously be laid waste and worsen still the individual security and privacy would be under threat. In the past, wire-tapping and telephone-tapping, which supposed to be use to track down criminals and other illegal activities, were abused and went after private matters. With the LI system, Chalerm will indeed become the most powerful man in Thailand as he literally will have access to all digital communications in this country. Unless, something are done now with checks and balances system to tightly regulate the use of LI. This system will definitely be abused and misused. In other democratic countries that allow the use of Internet interception, it is being done under strict rules and tight auditing. In the case of Thailand, as Chalerm put it, it will be used to track down the origins of anti-monarchy messages. The interception of Internet is considered unconstitutional without a court warrant.

    After the Computer Crime Act came into effect in 2007, Thailand's freedom of expression has suffered greatly. Gone were days when the country was considered one of the region's freest media. Efforts to censor digital data and web sites have increased meteorically since then. Foreign-based media freedom indexes have continued to rank Thailand at the bottom end these days because of many lese majeste cases and heavy online filtering regime. Shut-down websites and pages have reached several hundred thousands, which showed the lack of efficacy. Truth be told, nearly 85 to 90 per cent of these blocked content came from the same sources and websites - they were mirror sites or remailers. A better system of scrutiny and monitoring would drastically reduce the numbers of online blockades. It must be noted that there are web operators aboard with undesirable content who have closed affiliations with quite a few leading personalities of current government.

    Sad but true, quite often court officials are readily to grant permissions as required by law without checking seriously the real content of targeted sites. It has led to more workloads and additional shut-down of web pages, making the operation more expensive and impractical as more users are going online. With such a huge number of blocked sites, the country's Internet freedom will be further downgraded which could have reaching repercussion on learning and social progress as well as the growth of information society.

    At the moment, due to the Computer Crime Act, many leading government agencies such as Ministry of Defence, Ministry of Information and Communication Technology, Ministry of Culture, Ministry of Interior have set up their cyber police units. They are doing their own things without a common approach or strategy. With mobile technology, social media networking, wireless users have reached more nearly half of the 66-million population. With such huge numbers of online users, the government does not have sufficient bureaucratic arrangements to cope with the growing users. Therefore, ways must be found to enforce good governance, transparency and accountability at both ends users and enforcers. In the case of Internet, the best way must be done through self-regulatory framework. Obviously, whenever this concept is being mentioned in meetings among authorities concerned, there would be rows of laughter from them. Simply put, these people have a fixed mindset as they do not think the Thai online communities, comprising Internet hosts and service providers, software and hardware companies and users would be able to come together and agree among themselves on code of ethics and best practices. Only through them and their conservative methods are the ways to go.

    Indeed, Thailand should learn from the good practices of our foreign friends. One of them is Australia's self-regulation on the Internet, which is quite advance and effective ways to provide sanctions against those who are malfeasances. There are many categories of Thai online users, from the naïve to the most sophisticated groups of young and highly educated Net-savvy population. Whenever the latter groups counter problems or perceived misconducts, they either alert each other or take their own action such as delete the undesirable messages. Their social networks are very active and provide much needed information for their netizens - the recent flood was the case in point. Contrary to the official version that these social networks would perpetuate controversial content i.e. anti-royal spins et al to others. Of course, the case of 62-year-old man who received a 20-year sentence for four text messages sent from his mobile phone to a government official was a rare and isolated case.

    In the past years, the Thai Journalist Association and its affiliated online related organisations have organised various workshops to increase the capacity and knowledge of computer crime law and responsibility for local users. Indeed, authorities who are dealing with Internet surveillance also need similar training in all areas, especially those related to sociological aspects. Most of them are thinking in terms of technical outcome rather than with a holistic approach that would produce better results. Heavy punitive measures are not the key. Currently, overall capacity of officials who monitor Internet is extremely low, they lack the kind of skills and knowledge to understand the impacts of filtering and other forms of censorship have on overall learning capacity of the Thai people.

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