German shot dead for middle finger

**benbaaa** · 21-01-2010, 10:59 AM

Deadly intersection sees two shootings in one week

The motorbike belonging to the German shooting victim,
Josef Schuller at the intersection on the Chiang Mai - Phrao road.

Supoj Thiamyoj & Nopniwat Krailerg
The Likit Cheewan intersection on the Chiang Mai – Phrao Road in San Sai has been the scene of two deadly shootings in the past week. The first was that of German national Thomas Schuller. Pricha Rattanahongthong, 39, was arrested on January 13 and charged with the shooting death of Thomas Josef Schuller, 43. The incident took place at the Likit Cheewan intersection on the Chiang Mai – Phrao Road on January 11 at 7 pm.
According to witnesses at the scene, the German man had been weaving through traffic on his motorcycle which resulted in the suspect honking at the victim and chasing him. Witnesses reported that the German had raised his middle finger to the suspect. When Mr. Schuller stopped for the traffic light, witnesses report that the suspect got out of his car, knocked the German man off his motorcycle and shot him twice in the back. He then got back in his car and drove away. Witnesses took down his license plate number and reported it to the police when they arrived.
Mr. Pricha denied all involvement in the murder when arrested by police but the police state that the case is solid and there are many witnesses to the crime.
Three days later, Asaba Saesao, 37, a hill tribe resident of Chaiprakarn, was shot 5 times by the pillion rider on a motorcycle while stopped at the very same intersection on January 14. According to his girlfriend, Kanchana Saechu, 26, they were returning to Chiang Mai city from Mae Jo in his pickup truck when they stopped at the red light at the intersection. Two men, one wearing a green shirt and one wearing a black jacket pulled alongside the truck. The pillion rider pulled out a gun and shot Mr. Asaba in the chest 5 times, killing him instantly. Police are searching for the suspects but so far have not apprehended them. Police will investigate the deceased’s background as there is a suspicion from the style of the murder that could indicate an involvement in drugs.

http://www.chiangmai-mail.com/

Careful who you raise your middle finger to.

**Beadle** · 21-01-2010, 11:17 AM

Many Thais carry guns in their vehicles. Just remember that next time you express irritation or anger at how stupid, arrogant and ignorant many of them are when behind the wheel.

**The Muffinman** · 21-01-2010, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Beadle

Many Thais carry guns in their vehicles. Just remember that next time you express irritation or anger at how stupid, arrogant and ignorant many of them are when behind the wheel.

I'll second that, good advice, you never know who you might be dealing with.

**Chairman Mao** · 21-01-2010, 11:53 AM

What sort of person goes around giving the finger to other road users anyway?

**DrB0b** · 21-01-2010, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

What sort of person goes around giving the finger to other road users anyway?

One who has to deal with Thai drivers on a daily basis.

**DrB0b** · 21-01-2010, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Obviously not cut out for Thailand.

True. Maybe he should have dealt with his frustrations by making

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Seriously, what is wrong with these people?

type posts on forums. Definitely safer

**AntRobertson** · 21-01-2010, 12:15 PM

Must be a thing with German motorcyclists in Chiang mai - this guy's not the first, another was shot dead under similar circumstances several years back.

**SunTzu** · 21-01-2010, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

What sort of person goes around giving the finger to other road users anyway?

should we shoot'em all ?

**Happyman** · 21-01-2010, 12:32 PM

workmate of mine in Mali stupidly gave the finger to some locals in a car who had cut him off the road .
They rammed his pickup - dragged him out - and cut the offending finger off !

**kmart** · 21-01-2010, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

What sort of person goes around giving the finger to other road users anyway?

One who has to deal with Thai drivers on a daily basis.

Yup. Always have an exit available first though.

**blackgang** · 21-01-2010, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Obviously not cut out for Thailand.

True. Maybe he should have dealt with his frustrations by making

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

Seriously, what is wrong with these people?

type posts on forums. Definitely safer

Yes Bob, now I hope you realize who you are dealing with, definitely on the lower IQ scale.
I am fairly bad about the ol Hawaiian peace sign here and I have been chased thru traffic and all the way to m house, but fuck em.
They worry to much about losing face, you honk at them they lose face,, they honk at you, they lose face, you flip em off they lose face.
Should issue us sawed off 12 ga shotguns when we come thru immigration at swampy and we could take care of the most fucked up elements of tis society and this would be a pretty nice place then,

**Carnwadrick** · 21-01-2010, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Must be a thing with German motorcyclists in Chiang mai - this guy's not the first, another was shot dead under similar circumstances several years back.

And how many other nationalities in between??

**Norton** · 21-01-2010, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by benbaaa

According to witnesses at the scene, the Thai man had been weaving through traffic on his motorcycle which resulted in the suspect honking at the victim and chasing him. Witnesses reported that the Thai had raised his middle finger to the suspect. When Mr. Pricha stopped for the traffic light, witnesses report that the suspect got out of his car, knocked the Thai man off his motorcycle and shot him twice in the back. He then got back in his car and drove away.

Originally Posted by benbaaa

Thomas Josef Schuller, 43, a German national was arrested on January 13 and charged with the shooting death of Pricha Rattanahongthong, 39.

Wonder what folks would have to say if this was the news item. Read carefully.

**AntRobertson** · 21-01-2010, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Carnwadrick

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Must be a thing with German motorcyclists in Chiang mai - this guy's not the first, another was shot dead under similar circumstances several years back.

And how many other nationalities in between??

No idea - but none that I'm aware of.

**The Ghost Of The Moog** · 21-01-2010, 02:00 PM

Streets of New York : English tourist to a local.....

"Excuse me, can you please tell me the way to Carnegie Hall, or should I just go and fuck myself".

**blackgang** · 21-01-2010, 02:11 PM

well New York is not known for being a very courteous place anyway and anyone who goes there because of want to instead of have to is out of their fucking mind.

**nevets** · 21-01-2010, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

What sort of person goes around giving the finger to other road users anyway?

Most Brits in the UK.

**English Noodles** · 21-01-2010, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by benbaaa

Careful who you raise your middle finger to.

Just don't do it.

**Smug Farang Bore** · 21-01-2010, 03:09 PM

Not only in their cars but stuck down the back of their trousers.

I was in a bar once and I was the only one who wasn't carrying a gun.

**Chairman Mao** · 21-01-2010, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by English Noodles

Originally Posted by benbaaa

Careful who you raise your middle finger to.

Just don't do it.

Quite difficult for the average western specimen that ends up over here.

Pure western class.

**Chairman Mao** · 21-01-2010, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore

Not only in their cars but stuck down the back of their trousers.

I was in a bar once and I was the only one who wasn't carrying a gun.

Kinda like a convenience store outside an american highschool.

**Travelmate** · 21-01-2010, 03:23 PM

I hope this does not catch on.
Don't wanna keep looking over my shoulder all the time at traffic lights.......

**Frankenstein** · 21-01-2010, 03:25 PM

I wan't in the habit back home so I won't start now. I do honk like a madman though.

**zubber** · 21-01-2010, 03:35 PM

Other similar obscene gestures

Although "the finger" has been called "the universal sign of disrespect",[16] it is not universal. Many other gestures are used in various parts of the world to express the same sentiment.
In the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand, the V sign (when given with back of the hand towards the recipient) serves a similar purpose.
In countries where Spanish, Portuguese, or French are spoken, and especially on the Iberian peninsula and in Latin America, a gesture called the Bras d'honneur involving raising a fist and slapping the bicep on the same arm as the fist used, sometimes called the Iberian slap or Iberian finger, is equivalent to the finger.
In Italy, Poland, and countries under the influence of Russian culture (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine), the bent elbow insult is equivalent to The Finger.
In some African and Caribbean countries, a similarly obscene gesture is extending all five digits with the palm facing forward, meaning "you have five fathers" (thus calling someone a bastard).[17]
In Greece, the five fingers are spread wide and the palm is pushed towards someone in a gesture known as the Moutza. The middle finger is still used though, and it is considered more insulting.
In India, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka the social circles exposed to the western cultures use the middle finger gesture in the same sense that it is used in those cultures. The same is true for most South Asian countries.[18]
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Finger (gesture)

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The finger

In Western culture, the finger (as in giving someone the finger), also known as the middle finger, the bird (as in flicking or flying the bird) or to flip someone off, is an obscene hand gesture, often meaning the phrase "fuck you" or "up yours". It is performed by showing the back of the hand, extending the middle finger of the hand upwards while bending the other fingers down into the palm.
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[edit] Origin

It is identified as the digitus impudicus (impudent finger) in Ancient Roman writings[1] and reference is made to using the finger in ancient Greek comedy to insult another person. The widespread usage of the finger in many cultures is likely due to the geographical influence of the Roman Empire and Greco-Roman civilization.
Another possible origin of this gesture can be found in the first-century Mediterranean world, where extending the digitus impudicus was one of many methods used to divert the ever present threat of the evil eye.[2]

**zubber** · 21-01-2010, 03:40 PM

previous victim shot dead

On thursday 27th of July 2000, German citizen Manfred Michael
> Oberhauser was shot dead on a road in Chiang Mai province while riding
> his motorbike. According to vitnesses, the shooting may have been
> provoked by the German showing the driver of a van "the finger". Both
> vehicles had been seen driving at high speed as the motorbike either
> was racing with or trying to catch up with the van. The driver of the
> van fired several shots from the window of his vehicle and then fled
> the scene.

Thai police says Oberhauser was 41 years old and married to a Thai
woman.

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