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Takeovers

I don't live in Thailand and have no plans to ever do that. Really I am much more interested in the Philiipipines.

But whatever is blamed on Thaksin, I don't believe in democracy being served by repeatedly pushing out elected governments. The red shirts want an elected government back, the yellow shirts want the opposite.

So yes I have taken sides. That does not mean I totally agree with them or even know what exactly they stand for.

StrontiumDog

It's a difficult choice to be sure.

As Bart would say...

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Certainly the yellow shirts represent a nationalism that is anti-democratic and authoritarian, but the red shirts would have Thaksin back in a heartbeat and he is only surpassed in his corrupt cronyism by, ironically, Hun Sen. Thaksin would grab absolute power if the opportunity arose. He's a vile individual.

Both camps are dangerous to the fortunes of Thailand.

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Sdigit

No point in fretting for a while anyway, the military are gonna keep there fingers on the pulse for years to come. As soon as things don't go the way they like they'll have another coups.

Takeovers

I fear something else. I believe they don't want another coup.

Instead the next elections could be rigged the way they were in the Philippines. That is worse than another coup.

Sdigit

Well if they military are going to rig the election so as to control the Government I cant see any difference.

StrontiumDog

A rigged election in Thailand is like the sun rising...you know its going to happen...

Takeovers

The last elections were held under the Military Junta and were heavily stacked in favor of the Democrats. They still lost.

Do you really want to doubt that Thaksin had a majority?

StrontiumDog

Ummm, not sure how you made the jump here. I'm sure he got a majority, but where did I say he didn't?

Mid

from the blogworld ...............


Saturday red, Sunday yellow: the temperature rises again
November 16th, 2009 by Nick Nostitz

asiapacific.anu.edu.au


Nick goes for 50 to 60 thousand Reds and 35 thousand yellows .

Takeovers

I have quoted what you said.

Did you not imply there that Thaksins victories were fraudulent?

I must have another concept of communication and language than you.

StrontiumDog

It would appear so...I was simply suggesting rigged elections are commonplace here.

You made an interpretation of my intent, which was not something I had meant.

Perota

Great jokes ! I never heard them before. You're really the funny guy of this forum

My post was dumb, no contest, but I was just trying to be at your level.

If you have nothing to say, just say nothing.



Back to the subject at hand, I'm really surprised that the Nation and the BP have been so quiet about the Red rally. Are they really that scared ?
As I said before, I watched a very tired and worried Abhi during an interview on Channel 7.
Thai politicians are very selfish, I don't believe they will have traveled "en masse" to Cambodia if they didn't believe that Thaksin has a chance to be back home (and in charge) soon.
Then if you add (from the BP) "Mr Newin said the next House meeting should be held in Cambodia's capital." If Mr Newin said so ... Mr Newin is a man who has always known which side his bread is buttered ....

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donald36

Whats the difference between a rigged election and someone very rich bribing a large number of poor and uneducated people to vote for him
Long live the King and the Army

chitown

I heard it today from a Thai Chinese guy I know.

All the reds were paid 1000 baht to go the rally. The yellows are true democracy as they don't pay. Their people go for their feeling not money.

I told him that rumor has that Thaksin is planning a comeback next month as he has the money to buy off the military.

He was quite upset.

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EmperorTud

^ does he post on Thaivisa? As it sounds like the usual brainwashed indoctrination they only allow there.

mobs00

^^ So that's 50,000,000 to 60,000,000 baht paid to the reds to go watch a concert?

These yellows are always good for a laugh.

Mid

local media is reporting the Reds aiming for a million next time and a new government before New Year .

mobs00

^ Finally, some entertainment. Low season is such a bore.

chitown

No, he is some die hard Thai Chinese traditionalist. His brother owns a Thai restaurant in Chicago that I go to often. The two are like night and day. The one in Chicago is progressive as all get out and the one here thinks all farangs should be ran out of Thailand (except you Mista Chi, you good man- he always says).

He says us farangs ruined the country and blames us for the prostitution and other "evil Westernization" - MTV no good. farang steal Thai job, Western news not understand Thai way, farang stealing Thai lady, farang make mix baby with Thai lady, Thai people having more sex now than before from Western movie etc.

He thinks Thailand should be the way it was 100 years ago.

I always tell him he is crazy. His brother agrees with me.

Sdigit

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Yes maybe we got off on the wrong foot

What like your mob do every time there's a knock at the door. "Quick hide, shhhh the Jermans will hear"

Not big on humour then Perota?



Yes and they mostly will be, you cant ignore LM or how it's interpreted, remember what happens when things get uncomfortable for the military, the press don't do well.
Other unmentionable factors have yet to come into play so everything is up in the air at the moment.
Also what about the reaction to Thaksin's recent interview with the Times, scary times to be that public about the reds, possibly another reason for going to Cambodia for the rally, no one can shut you down or manipulate the situation.