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Mid · 08-11-2009, 04:41 PM

Thaksin to visit Cambodia
Nov 8, 2009

Thaksin will visit Cambodia this week in his new role as the government's economics adviser.
-- PHOTO: AFP

PHNOM PENH (Cambodia) - OUSTED Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra will visit Cambodia this week in his new role as the government's economics adviser, the Cambodian Prime Minister told reporters on Sunday.

'Thaksin will be at the Ministry of Economy and Finance on Nov 12, to do a briefing with 300 Cambodian economics experts,' Mr Hun Sen told a news conference at Phnom Penh International Airport.

Cambodia and Thailand on Thursday recalled their respective ambassadors after Cambodia appointed Thaksin, who was ousted as Thailand's prime minister in a coup in 2006, as an economics adviser.

Mr Hun Sen also announced that he would withdraw an elite unit of paratroopers from disputed territory near Preah Vihear temple, where Thai and Cambodian troops have been squared off in a deadly border dispute since last year. -- AFP

straitstimes.com

chitown · 08-11-2009, 04:49 PM

The mercury is rising now!

aging one · 08-11-2009, 05:22 PM

Can the RTAF shoot him down if he flies over Thai territory?

Sdigit · 08-11-2009, 05:55 PM

Let the game commence

Panda · 08-11-2009, 06:13 PM

Good to see the Cambodians getting on with business while the Thai government runs around in circles not knowing what to do next.

There's not really much the Thai government can do about it except trying to stir up some nationalistic fervour.
I think the majority of Thai voters would see it as kick in the pants for a the present government.

superman · 08-11-2009, 06:26 PM

Thailand has an extradition treaty with Cambodia. Am I under the belief they wont honour it ? Obviously Thailand has issued an international arrest warrant ? Or not ?

dirtydog · 08-11-2009, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superman

Thailand has an extradition treaty with Cambodia.

Do they? Did Thailand ever bother getting round to signing it?

superman · 08-11-2009, 06:44 PM

According to 'Wiki answers' they have

dirtydog · 08-11-2009, 06:51 PM

Seems your right.

Cambodia-Thailand Extradition Treaty

Wednesday, 28 February 2001 01:42 On 01 March 2001, at 4:00 p.m., at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, a signing ceremony will be held between His Excellency Mr. HOR Namhong, Senior Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, and His Excellency Mr. Asiphol Chabchitrchaidol, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Kingdom of Thailand to the Kingdom of Cambodia, on the Protocol on the Exchange of the Instruments of Ratification of the Treaty between the Kingdom of Cambodia and the Kingdom of Thailand on Extradition.
This Treaty shall enter into force thirty days after the date of the exchange of the Instruments of Ratification.
It should be noticed that the Treaty on Extradition was signed in Bangkok on 6 May 1998, and ratified by Samdech CHEA Sim, Acting Head of State of the Kingdom of Cambodia, in the August Name of His Majesty the King of Cambodia, on 19 July 1999, and by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of Thailand on behalf of the Royal Thai Government on 19 December 2000.

Phnom Penh, 28 February 2001

Cambodia will not extradite Thaksin on Thailand’s request

News Desk
Rasmei Kampuchea Daily
Publication Date: 23-10-2009

Cambodia will not extradite former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Sinawatra based on a request made by the Thai government, the Cambodian government has said.
“The Royal Government of Cambodia likes to make it clear about its position that Cambodia will not extradite Thaksin on any request made by the Thai government if he decides to stay in the kingdom of Cambodia,” said a government statement issued on October 23.
The Cambodian government’s statement comes a day after Thailand warned that it would request Cambodia to send Thaksin back to Thailand to serve his two-year jail term if he visits the country.
Thailand had made the cautionary note after Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen said that Cambodia would warmly welcome Thaksin if he expresses his wish to stay in the country.
Hun Sen had also said: "I consider Thaksin as my eternal friend. Cambodia will welcome him to stay here anytime. I will make a house available for him if he decides to visit Cambodia.”
His statement had created a stir in Thailand, especially among pro-government factions, prompting the government to play the ‘extradition’ card.
The extradition treaty between the two country states that any party can refuse the extradition request if it considers the demand to be politically motivated, the Cambodian government statement said.
The requested party also has a ground for the mandatory refusal if the requested party has well-founded reasons to suppose that the request for extradition made by the requesting party aims to institute criminal proceedings against or execute punishment upon the person, or that the position of the person sought in judicial proceedings will be prejudiced for any of the reasons mentioned above.
The statement added that based on the two reasons the Cambodian government has a right to make an interpretation on whether the case against former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra is politically motivated or not.
However, the Cambodian government has said Cambodia will maintain its friendly relation and continue to cooperate in all fields with Thailand.

Cambodia can deny Thaksin extradition bid by Thailand: Attorney-General BANGKOK, Oct 30 (TNA) - Cambodia reserves the right to deny a request by Thailand to extradite ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra if he stays in the neighbouring country, but substantial grounds must be provided for the denial, according to the Attorney-General Julasingh Wasantsingh.

Mr Julasingh said he did not focus on anybody in particular, but would touch only on the principle that even though Thailand and Cambodia had signed an extradition treaty, in practice the country which was asked for the extradition has the full right to deny the request.

However, that country must justify its denial in line with international practice.

As for Mr Thaksin’s case, the Office of the Attorney-General has not been informed about his whereabouts so the office could not make the request.

If the police and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirm that Mr Thaksin is in Cambodia, Thai officials would seek extradition, but it depends on Phnom Penh's decision.

He added that Thailand had formerly denied such requests from some countries, but the kingdom was able to provide strong grounds to clarify its decisions in the past.

Mr Hun Sen told reporters during attending the 15th Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) summit in Thailand that Mr Thaksin could remain in Cambodia as his guest and could be his economic advisor, saying he was not interfering in Thailand's internal affairs, but that Cambodia has the right to exercise its sovereignty and make such a decision.

Ousted in a bloodless coup in September 2006, convicted and sentenced to a two-year jail term for malfeasance in the controversial Bangkok Ratchadapisek land purchase, Mr Thaksin now living in self-exile abroad and is reportedly a close friend of Mr Hun Sen. (TNA)
Political News : Last Update : 20:48:01 30 October 2009 (GMT+7:00)

Panda · 08-11-2009, 06:54 PM

I believe the offence for a valid extradition also has to be an offence in the country in which the wanted person is residing. The Cambodian government has already said they believe Thaksins conviction was a solely political move and therefore it would not hold up under Cambodian law. It may be just playing with technical points of law and open to interpretation, but thats the way I see it going down. Thaksin could be worth $billions to Cambodia. They are not going to hand him over to an unfriendly government next door.

superman · 08-11-2009, 06:54 PM

They do have an extradition treaty but Cambodia has the right to deny extradition but has to justify it's denial inline with international law. According to enews.mcot.net

StrontiumDog · 08-11-2009, 07:18 PM

Maybe it's all a cunning plan...lure Mr square head here, arrest him and hand him over to Thailand...and then...

Peace and tranquility reign supreme. Cambodia and Thailand sign a joint declaration of everlasting love. Hun Sen and Abhisit become blood brothers. Borders are thrown down. Thailand and Cambodia become one great nation.

Ah, dreams.

Butterfly · 08-11-2009, 07:27 PM

monkeys having fun in the zoo,

good2bhappy · 08-11-2009, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Thailand and Cambodia become one great nation.

like in the days of the Khmer empire

watterinja · 08-11-2009, 07:53 PM

An ugly sod...

Rural Surin · 08-11-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watterinja

An ugly sod...

If it's any consolation Watty, his daughters are hot!!

Rural Surin · 08-11-2009, 09:52 PM

Seems to me that the Siamese Kingdom might extend a little more humility towards the Khmer counterpart, as the former owes it's existence towards the overwhelming influence of the latter.

StrontiumDog · 08-11-2009, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Quote:

Originally Posted by watterinja

An ugly sod...

If it's any consolation Watty, his daughters are hot!!

How to get their phone numbers...hmmmm.....

zubber · 08-11-2009, 08:47 PM

he was a hansum man

08-11-2009, 11:25 PM

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/T...Oto_Uzql.j pg Younger daughter isn't bad.

08-11-2009, 04:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mid Nautical Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 13,315	Thaksin to visit Cambodia Thaksin to visit Cambodia Nov 8, 2009 Thaksin will visit Cambodia this week in his new role as the government's economics adviser. -- PHOTO: AFP PHNOM PENH (Cambodia) - OUSTED Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra will visit Cambodia this week in his new role as the government's economics adviser, the Cambodian Prime Minister told reporters on Sunday. 'Thaksin will be at the Ministry of Economy and Finance on Nov 12, to do a briefing with 300 Cambodian economics experts,' Mr Hun Sen told a news conference at Phnom Penh International Airport. Cambodia and Thailand on Thursday recalled their respective ambassadors after Cambodia appointed Thaksin, who was ousted as Thailand's prime minister in a coup in 2006, as an economics adviser. Mr Hun Sen also announced that he would withdraw an elite unit of paratroopers from disputed territory near Preah Vihear temple, where Thai and Cambodian troops have been squared off in a deadly border dispute since last year. -- AFP straitstimes.com __________________ "Keeping quiet while monks and other peaceful protesters are murdered and jailed is not evidence of constructive engagement." - Arvind Ganesan, Human Rights Watch. "I think...I think it's in my basement. Let me go upstairs and check" - M.C. Escher

08-11-2009, 06:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
dirtydog The Dog Last Online: Today 04:47 PM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pattaya Jomtien Posts: 42,363	Seems your right. Cambodia-Thailand Extradition Treaty Wednesday, 28 February 2001 01:42 On 01 March 2001, at 4:00 p.m., at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, a signing ceremony will be held between His Excellency Mr. HOR Namhong, Senior Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, and His Excellency Mr. Asiphol Chabchitrchaidol, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the Kingdom of Thailand to the Kingdom of Cambodia, on the Protocol on the Exchange of the Instruments of Ratification of the Treaty between the Kingdom of Cambodia and the Kingdom of Thailand on Extradition. This Treaty shall enter into force thirty days after the date of the exchange of the Instruments of Ratification. It should be noticed that the Treaty on Extradition was signed in Bangkok on 6 May 1998, and ratified by Samdech CHEA Sim, Acting Head of State of the Kingdom of Cambodia, in the August Name of His Majesty the King of Cambodia, on 19 July 1999, and by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of Thailand on behalf of the Royal Thai Government on 19 December 2000. Phnom Penh, 28 February 2001 Cambodia will not extradite Thaksin on Thailand’s request News Desk Rasmei Kampuchea Daily Publication Date: 23-10-2009 Cambodia will not extradite former Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Sinawatra based on a request made by the Thai government, the Cambodian government has said. “The Royal Government of Cambodia likes to make it clear about its position that Cambodia will not extradite Thaksin on any request made by the Thai government if he decides to stay in the kingdom of Cambodia,” said a government statement issued on October 23. The Cambodian government’s statement comes a day after Thailand warned that it would request Cambodia to send Thaksin back to Thailand to serve his two-year jail term if he visits the country. Thailand had made the cautionary note after Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen said that Cambodia would warmly welcome Thaksin if he expresses his wish to stay in the country. Hun Sen had also said: "I consider Thaksin as my eternal friend. Cambodia will welcome him to stay here anytime. I will make a house available for him if he decides to visit Cambodia.” His statement had created a stir in Thailand, especially among pro-government factions, prompting the government to play the ‘extradition’ card. The extradition treaty between the two country states that any party can refuse the extradition request if it considers the demand to be politically motivated, the Cambodian government statement said. The requested party also has a ground for the mandatory refusal if the requested party has well-founded reasons to suppose that the request for extradition made by the requesting party aims to institute criminal proceedings against or execute punishment upon the person, or that the position of the person sought in judicial proceedings will be prejudiced for any of the reasons mentioned above. The statement added that based on the two reasons the Cambodian government has a right to make an interpretation on whether the case against former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra is politically motivated or not. However, the Cambodian government has said Cambodia will maintain its friendly relation and continue to cooperate in all fields with Thailand. Cambodia can deny Thaksin extradition bid by Thailand: Attorney-General BANGKOK, Oct 30 (TNA) - Cambodia reserves the right to deny a request by Thailand to extradite ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra if he stays in the neighbouring country, but substantial grounds must be provided for the denial, according to the Attorney-General Julasingh Wasantsingh. Mr Julasingh said he did not focus on anybody in particular, but would touch only on the principle that even though Thailand and Cambodia had signed an extradition treaty, in practice the country which was asked for the extradition has the full right to deny the request. However, that country must justify its denial in line with international practice. As for Mr Thaksin’s case, the Office of the Attorney-General has not been informed about his whereabouts so the office could not make the request. If the police and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirm that Mr Thaksin is in Cambodia, Thai officials would seek extradition, but it depends on Phnom Penh's decision. He added that Thailand had formerly denied such requests from some countries, but the kingdom was able to provide strong grounds to clarify its decisions in the past. Mr Hun Sen told reporters during attending the 15th Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) summit in Thailand that Mr Thaksin could remain in Cambodia as his guest and could be his economic advisor, saying he was not interfering in Thailand's internal affairs, but that Cambodia has the right to exercise its sovereignty and make such a decision. Ousted in a bloodless coup in September 2006, convicted and sentenced to a two-year jail term for malfeasance in the controversial Bangkok Ratchadapisek land purchase, Mr Thaksin now living in self-exile abroad and is reportedly a close friend of Mr Hun Sen. 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08-11-2009, 07:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
StrontiumDog Thailand Expat Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,530	Maybe it's all a cunning plan...lure Mr square head here, arrest him and hand him over to Thailand...and then... Peace and tranquility reign supreme. Cambodia and Thailand sign a joint declaration of everlasting love. Hun Sen and Abhisit become blood brothers. Borders are thrown down. Thailand and Cambodia become one great nation. Ah, dreams. __________________ Eat plutonium death, mutant scum...

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Panda Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 04:52 PM Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,000	Good to see the Cambodians getting on with business while the Thai government runs around in circles not knowing what to do next. There's not really much the Thai government can do about it except trying to stir up some nationalistic fervour. I think the majority of Thai voters would see it as kick in the pants for a the present government.

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Panda Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 04:52 PM Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,000	I believe the offence for a valid extradition also has to be an offence in the country in which the wanted person is residing. The Cambodian government has already said they believe Thaksins conviction was a solely political move and therefore it would not hold up under Cambodian law. It may be just playing with technical points of law and open to interpretation, but thats the way I see it going down. Thaksin could be worth $billions to Cambodia. They are not going to hand him over to an unfriendly government next door.

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