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Old 07-11-2009, 04:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Yeh course they do noodles... To a Cambo war means money, food, guns... To a Thai war means giving up fast food and cable TV to go and sit in the jungle and get shot, 20+ years of tourism and western influence has left Thailand with a rather apathetic gene pool.
My Mrs' family live very, very close to the Thai Cambodian border in Si Saket and what you described of the Thai people is certainly not what they are there.

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the fact that Pol Pot killed all the intellectuals and pacafists has left Cambodia with a rather psychopathic gene pool.
That's not a fact, you will find more intellectuals were displaced to other areas of the country than were killed under the KR. For example, most of the fisherman and market traders along the coast used to be professionals such as Doctors, teachers and nurses 20 + years ago. Conflict is the last thing that the common Cambodian wants.
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Old 07-11-2009, 05:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeh course they do noodles... To a Cambo war means money, food, guns... To a Thai war means giving up fast food and cable TV to go and sit in the jungle and get shot, 20+ years of tourism and western influence has left Thailand with a rather apathetic gene pool.
My Mrs' family live very, very close to the Thai Cambodian border in Si Saket and what you described of the Thai people is certainly not what they are there.

Well I'm no expert either Noodles, just going on the conversations I had with Cambodians in Snooky, PP and Siam Riep, I was interested to find out what their opinion was as the jingoism on the Thai side has been going on for some time, and ther geneneral concensus was as I've stated.

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the fact that Pol Pot killed all the intellectuals and pacafists has left Cambodia with a rather psychopathic gene pool.
That's not a fact, you will find more intellectuals were displaced to other areas of the country than were killed under the KR. For example, most of the fisherman and market traders along the coast used to be professionals such as Doctors, teachers and nurses 20 + years ago. Conflict is the last thing that the common Cambodian wants.

Semantics Noodles, killed and/or displaced the net result is the same. Conflict is the last the common man on either side wants, only a fool welcomes war, but behind the rhetoric I think the Cambodians have a disposition that would be more willing than the average Thai.
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Semantics Noodles, killed and/or displaced the net result is the same.
Absolute rubbish IRL: it's not semantics whether someone is killed or displaced because the end result of the former is DEATH and the end result of the latter is LIFE...ask the people who were displaced and I'm sure they'll tell you where to stick you 'semantics'...
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The end result we are talking about, or at least I am, is the impoverishment of the Cambodian gene pool, as well as the effect on education, values and aspirations.

So wether they were killed or displaced the net result is the same.
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Obviously the only benefactor in this situation is old square face himself.
He is a coward in not facing up to the consequences of ripping off his fellow Thais.
It does not take 1 week to transact a 76 billion Baht deal to sell his AIS to Singapore. One week after cabinet approved the lifting to 49% of foreign ownership of a telecom company the Singaporean company bought AIS.
Unfortunately no Thia media has pursued this situation to expose him as a man for himself and stuff everybody else.
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Unfortunately no Thia media has pursued this situation to expose him as a man for himself and stuff everybody else.
I think if you look back you will see a lot of coverage about it, part of the reason he was kicked out of office!
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Unfortunately no Thia media has pursued this situation to expose him....
No mainstream Thai media {usually associated with the establishment convention}
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Obviously the only benefactor in this situation is old square face himself.
He is a coward in not facing up to the consequences of ripping off his fellow Thais.
It does not take 1 week to transact a 76 billion Baht deal to sell his AIS to Singapore. One week after cabinet approved the lifting to 49% of foreign ownership of a telecom company the Singaporean company bought AIS.
Unfortunately no Thia media has pursued this situation to expose him as a man for himself and stuff everybody else.
thaksin sold a company he OWNED, and built up himself.
he took advantage of a loophole to AVOID paying tax (legal); took advantage of changing circumstances, and profited, just the same as any astute businessman in any part of the world would do.
all they managed to nail him on in the end was the fact that his WIFE made the highest bid on a land auction, won the bid and profited hugely by doing so.
if YOUR wife commits a "crime", would you think it just if YOU were the one to have to take the fall?
he ripped nobody off by selling off AIS: it was his own property.
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He is a coward in not facing up to the consequences of ripping off his fellow Thais.
{not defending Thaksin} Such accusations should include the history of corrupt scoundrels and scallywags that continue today to rip-off 'fellow Thais'. He has a wealth of company.
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^^^ are you completely delusional ? or have you turned completely Thai by living too long in some Issan shithole ?
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^^^ are you completely delusional ? or have you turned completely Thai by living too long in some Issan shithole ?
not living in a thai shithole at the moment.
i doubt anybody on the forum could say i have turned even a "neeedn'-beet" thai.
wtf are you talking about?
thaksin owned the fukkn business and he sold it.
a loophole in the thai tax law allowed the sale to be made tax free.
the useless thai fuckwits that never did an honest days' work did not own ais.
ais was not a "national asset", it was one of thaksin's assets.
why the fkk should they have had any claim to the profits of the sale?
thaksin's wife made a land purchase,: won the bid on a public auction.
thaksin got nailed on this dodgy little "demeanor", coz the coup leaders, who had promised to provide evidence of his corruption and justify the coup could not come up with anything better.
in the meantime, the fact that the coup leaders who had thaksin "prosecuted for his crimes", changed the constitution to cover their OWN sorry arses and escape prosecution, seems to have somehow slipped everybody's minds.
i doubt that leading a coup to oust a democratically and legitemately elected leader (one who was voted in by a HUGE majority on a couple of different occasions) can be justified and legitimised on the grounds that his wife won a bid on a PUBLIC auction.

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.....or have you turned completely Thai by living too long in some Issan shithole ?
That might be to one's advantage, Butts. Better to remove yourself from the arseholes that abound and their pathetic existence.
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are you a small time gangster by any chance ?
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are you a small time gangster by any chance ?
that depends on whether your definitions of gangster and businessman merge at some point.
tax EVASION is illegal in any country.
tax AVOIDANCE is legal, and it is the duty of any businessman to ensure that his company does not pay unnecessary tax.

i do not pay tax.
i get away with it because i am good at it, and i do not see the need to support anybody who has neither the brain nor the inclination to support himself.
i guess that perhaps that makes me a gangster by your definition.
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More like a big time dreamer.

Tsicar, do you really believe what you are saying? Any of it?
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More like a big time dreamer.

Tsicar, do you really believe what you are saying? Any of it?
what i have posted is based on what i learned from observing this whole thing from a distance.
when i got to thailand, i did not even know who thaksin was.
if truth be told, my usual political stance would see me siding with abhisit, since i see paralells with what hapenned in my own country when "democracy" was established.
i don't really believe in democracy, especially in a country wheren the electorate consists of a majority of cretins who do not necessarily have the ability to make an educated choice, and in this respect i kinda lean toward the side of the "thai elite" whose work ethic, and the taxes they pay and the resentment they must feel about their tax money being wasted on the lazy brown people is somewhat justified in my opinion.
BUT:
if you are gonna crucify somebody, if you want to dislodge him by pulling a coup, then at least have the balls to be honest about it, instead of coming up with lame excuses and bullshit, and changing the constitution to save your own arse.
if what i posted about the sale of ais is bullshit, then at least justify your stance by posting some facts to prove i was talking shit.
the coup leaders would have LOVED to have been able to prove that the ais sale was a corrupt move on thaksin's part, BUT THEY NEVER MANAGED TO DO SO!
perhaps they should have asked YOU first, then they would have been able to produce the proof that would have had his own electorate throw him out, instead of having to pull a coup and then try to back it up with bullshit and lies and cover-ups after the fact.
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