Thread: Thailand: PM not surprised Thailand is on PWL (US Priority Watch List)

PM not surprised Thailand is on PWL
By: BangkokPost.com
Published: 2/05/2009 at 05:34 PM

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said it is not beyond his expectation that Washington has maintained Thailand on its Priority Watch List as Thailand has not effectively dealt with intellectual property rights violations.

He said that the assessment of the status on Thailand was made over a short period of time.

However, the prime minister said that the government would work harder to persuade Washington to upgrade Thailand's status.

There is still no need to issue new intellectual property laws as the current ones still work, he continued.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

There is still no need to issue new intellectual property laws as the current ones still work, he continued.

oooooookaaaayyyyy

This guy is an embarrasement to the UK education system. A clown of the highest order, who clearly paid cash for any letters he may, or not have after his name.

The man went to Eton.
What do you expect!

Originally Posted by Spin

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

There is still no need to issue new intellectual property laws as the current ones still work, he continued.

oooooookaaaayyyyy

This guy is an embarrasement to the UK education system. A clown of the highest order, who clearly paid cash for any letters he may, or not have after his name.

Translation: "Blah Blah Blah .... I hate Abhisit because he's a better educated chap than me, and he probably roots for the other footy team"

In what way is Abhisit incorrect in what he is saying in the sentence you quoted? The IP laws in Thailand, on the books, are fine as they are -- the problem is that they are not being enforced, which is why it is no surprised that Thailand is listed, as Abhisit claimed.

It is, in fact, far more refreshing to see a PM who admits that there is a problem *which he did in his initial statement* and pledges to work towards a solution, than the prior clowns (including Thaksin) whose only policy was to claim that there is no problem while lying to various IP representatives' faces.

'Spin' - what an appropriate handle.

Thailand was again included in the watch list in 2004. While such inclusion has not in the past created significant problems, the situation may be different this year: The negative aspects of the report could serve to weaken Thailand's bargaining position in the current free trade negotiations taking place with the US government. Unfortunately, the report has served to undermine recent positive actions that have been witnessed throughout the country as the government strives to create and police a meaningful IP protection system.

The report. The report does recognise that various efforts were made within Thailand in 2003 to strengthen the IP regime here (notably by the enactment of various new laws). Unfortunately, the report does not fully credit the recent enforcement drives and anti-piracy initiatives that have resulted in quite a successful clamp-down on IP infringers.

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Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by Spin

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

There is still no need to issue new intellectual property laws as the current ones still work, he continued.

oooooookaaaayyyyy

This guy is an embarrasement to the UK education system. A clown of the highest order, who clearly paid cash for any letters he may, or not have after his name.

Translation: "Blah Blah Blah .... I hate Abhisit because he's a better educated chap than me, and he probably roots for the other footy team"

In what way is Abhisit incorrect in what he is saying in the sentence you quoted? The IP laws in Thailand, on the books, are fine as they are -- the problem is that they are not being enforced, which is why it is no surprised that Thailand is listed, as Abhisit claimed.

It is, in fact, far more refreshing to see a PM who admits that there is a problem *which he did in his initial statement* and pledges to work towards a solution, than the prior clowns (including Thaksin) whose only policy was to claim that there is no problem while lying to various IP representatives' faces.

'Spin' - what an appropriate handle.

So...I take it you're not an admirer of PM Abhisit?

Originally Posted by baldrick

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

to crack down on IP infringement.

why do so many people have a hard on about enforcing seppo laws in other countries.

laws that have been created specifically for corporations that have used the western corruption method - lobbying

intellectual property rights do have some merits , but to advocate corporate wet dreams is insanity and treason against human civilization .

Well said Baldrick!!

Why should Thailand care. The only people facing loss from ip infringement are large greedy mostly American corporations. I'd respect him much more if he would tell the US Government what they could do with their silly lists.

man is a puppet , that's all ............

When they finally do take it seriously and start cracking down on IP infringement, they'll probably start arresting the buyers instead of the sellers.

Originally Posted by baldrick

why do so many people have a hard on about enforcing seppo laws in other countries.

If someone stole your work, then sold it on at a profit you wouldn't be happy would you?

And it isn't a "seppo law", all civilised countries are affected by piracy and counterfeiting and all have laws against it and enforce those laws.

Of course we all know how the Thais hate their intellectual property being stolen and how they hand out serious punishments for people caught doing so.

Originally Posted by BugginOut

When they finally do take it seriously and start cracking down on IP infringement, they'll probably start arresting the buyers instead of the sellers.

That was suggested by this administration, believe it or not.

One of the good things about Thaksin was his commitment to clamping down on IP infringement. This government hasn't got the influence with the Police nor the ideas to make any impact.

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

If someone stole your work, then sold it on at a profit you wouldn't be happy would you?

what you mean came into my home and took something I had ?

or do you mean used my labour to make something then sold it at a profit ? which is what happens to every wage slave on the planet ?

If your property was that intellectual - how the fcuk is some dumb cnut able to "steal" it ?

why don't they stop their marketing spin and call it what it really is - legally sanctioned sales monopoly rights.

You've turned into quite the apologist of late Baldrick.

When somebody makes something or does something unique why should people that have not contributed to that work, and have absolutely no interest in rewarding hard work, resourcefulness or talent be allowed to profit off it?

Most of the Thais involved in the retail of pirated DVDs and counterfeit material have absolutely no talent or ideas of their own and seem completely devoid of any morals or ethics whatsoever. Almost like a microcosm of the entire country.

Blaming big American companies and their greed is no excuse for the criminal gangs to continue to flout the law and profit from criminal activity and in the end, the little guy who put his effort in is the guy getting fucked.

criminal gangs ? what like terrorist groups ? the only centralised organised gangs involved are the boy in brown.

the people who buy the knock offs of all this sh1te are never going to shell out for a real one.

this is one of the underlying problems that has bought us to this downward spiral - monopolies having legal recourse to sell an item for a massively marked up price - free market my arse.

how many unique innovations have been stifled in the meantime by patent and IP trolls ?

how much money made by these monopolies is used to market useless sh1te to people who don't need it ?

merck has just been busted creating a peer review medical journal to promote their products - Merck Makes Phony Peer-Review Journal | blog.bioethics.net

these organised crime corporations bring misery to many more people than the people making copies of products - masters of business arseholism

the Shanzhai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia would not have a chance to evolve in a

civilised country

the whole IP protectionism racket is just a rearguard action anyway - only the mouthpieces trying to scrounge another round of funding thinks it will work.

Originally Posted by Spin

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

There is still no need to issue new intellectual property laws as the current ones still work, he continued.

oooooookaaaayyyyy

This guy is an embarrasement to the UK education system. A clown of the highest order, who clearly paid cash for any letters he may, or not have after his name.

What a stupid comment --you dont pay to get a degree from Oxford--you are clearly a product of the Issaan education system

Originally Posted by baldrick

criminal gangs ? what like terrorist groups ? the only centralised organised gangs involved are the boy in brown.

If you had any clue whatsoever you'd know Chinese, Thai and Malaysian organised criminal gangs are involved in the production, distribution and retail of counterfeit merchandise and pirated goods in Thailand.

Originally Posted by mikehunt

Ok. Copying DVD's is not "green" but if the big players had their heads screwed on correctly, they would sell their products in target countries (Thailand) at competitive prices, with the hope that this would slowly but surely put the pirates out of business.

They sell original DVDs in Mangpong for 79thb upwards. VCDs in 7/11 for 59thb.

What are they supposed to do, give films away free?

Originally Posted by donald36

Originally Posted by Spin

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

There is still no need to issue new intellectual property laws as the current ones still work, he continued.

oooooookaaaayyyyy

This guy is an embarrasement to the UK education system. A clown of the highest order, who clearly paid cash for any letters he may, or not have after his name.

What a stupid comment --you dont pay to get a degree from Oxford--you are clearly a product of the Issaan education system

Everything has its price Donald, hell, you might even be able to have a functioning brain installed if you have enough money.

ps. What is the Isaan education system?, and are you implying it is shit, or good?...becuase I might have been questioning the stupidity of one Thai, whereas you, look like you are questioing the stupidity of a good few million Thais.

So which is it?

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

If you had any clue whatsoever

I wish I knew all the facts tudious

such as - the stone age days of requiring a factory to press copies of CD's are in the distant past.

any mafisio ,triad, al quaeda, eye patch wearing kid with 1k worth of equipment and an ADSL connection can surely destroy society ,mass producing hollywood propaganda.

the handbags and shirts etc will be sewn up in back alley sweatshops and the labels probably come from the factory/sweatshop that makes the original.

the excellent set of graphite shaft ping golf clubs I got when in china - 1k yuan - lack the label , but come from the same factory

some gangs might be involved with parts of the trade but I doubt they are the major players.

my experience with chinese business has taught me that they don't have to be involved in the triads to have any qualms about dealings that westerners might find unethical

Originally Posted by baldrick

such as - the stone age days of requiring a factory to press copies of CD's are in the distant past.

True, but 99% of the copied DVDs sold in Thailand are still pressed, many of them coming in from Malaysia.

Originally Posted by baldrick

the handbags and shirts etc will be sewn up in back alley sweatshops and the labels probably come from the factory/sweatshop that makes the original.

Most of the good counterfeit stuff in Thailand such as watches or handbags is imported from China or Korea.

In general, Thailand only produces t-shirts and low grade fakes for tourists.

Originally Posted by baldrick

the excellent set of graphite shaft ping golf clubs I got when in china - 1k yuan - lack the label , but come from the same factory

Sure they were.

Remember, it's not a lie if you believe it.

Originally Posted by baldrick

why do so many people have a hard on about enforcing seppo laws in other countries.

Its the case of Thailand blatantly stealing and producing its own copies of foreign drugs that is the bigget problem. Drug companies spend plenty of R&D and they do so to give the worlds population a better shot at surviving illness that they may suffer.
Arsehole countries like Thailand, which house immense wealth for a priveledged few, duplicate these drugs using the excuse of "cheaper prices and better availability" when they are not a poor country to start with. Paying full price to secure future R&D expenditure on new drugs should be every countries priority.