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Old 28-12-2008, 05:46 PM   #61 (permalink)
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^ I find it bizarre that recent Immigrants are working for Australian immigration. They must have some stupid quota of ethnics to fill. When I last holidayed in Australia, the Immigration official could barely speak English. If I hadn't witnessed the arid dustbowl of the thirsty country out of the plane window myself, I may well have been thinking we had landed in Stalinist Eastern Europe by mistake. They love questioning the Brits I've noticed, the famous Aussie chip-on-the-shoulder is alive and well.
that's just wrong, certain jobs should be withheld for recent immigrants.

but about the guy in jail, from what I've heard it's just a boring book, so maybe it's a clever publicity stunt

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Old 28-12-2008, 08:19 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Afshin Abolfotouh, 41, was jailed for 18 months in Brisbane District Court on Monday over indecent proposals he made to 27-year-old Chinese national Qiao Liyuan in late 2007.
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A Brisbane judge has jailed a former Immigration Department official after he tried to force a Chinese national to have sex with him in return for processing a visa application.
The District Court in Brisbane heard 41-year-old Afshin Abolfotouh emigrated from Iran to Australia in 2004 before being employed by the Department of Immigration, where he assessed partner visa applications.
Last year 27-year-old Chinese national Liyuan Qiao applied for a visa for her boyfriend.
She called Albofotouh to ask about her application and was told it was weak.
He also asked her if she would cheat on her partner.
She went to the police, who recorded Albofotouh asking for sex during another phone call.
He was arrested when he arrived at Ms Qiao's home.
Acting Judge Tony Collins jailed Abolfotouh for 18 months, to be released after he serves three months.
** - How pathetic . . . and what is that supposed to mean . . . jailed for 18 months to be released after serving 3 months? What a friggin' joke we have become

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that's just wrong, certain jobs should be withheld for recent immigrants.
- I'd tend to agree, but you can't discriminate if someone is a PR, quite rughtly so IMO
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- Open the smilie menu and go all the way down, loads more to choose form

**ABC Brisbane - Ex-immigration officer jailed for sex blackmail
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[Yeah, let's all crawl under the law, no matter how repugnant it is.And let's not forget to mock at all the fools who fall into its mincer.
Most perceptive comment. Little can be gained by "respecting" such laws. It would be more proper to "fear" those laws. Most of us do.
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Regardless of whether or not you believe in free speech, this is no different than somebody getting caught with drugs in this country. He knew the rules and he broke them. Kind of like MKP but much more severe. I don't agree with it, but T.I.T. in the harshest form of reality.

Well said, I could not agree more. We have to remember that we are all guests in Thailand even if we bring in a lot of money to the country!
And Thais should remember nowhere else in the world guests get jailed for three lines written in a book.
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And Thais should remember nowhere else in the world guests get jailed for three lines written in a book.
no, sometimes allowing your students to name a teddy bear Mohamed is enough.
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Thais should remember nowhere else in the world guests get jailed for three lines written in a book.

Stupid bastard should of known better, every body knows the rules regards this stuff so let him suck it up for a while.

Silly tosser wont do it next time.
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One point of optimism is that, in most respects, Thais have been keenly sensitive to how they were perceived by more advanced countries. Even past monarchs have been eager to make reforms when subjects of countries such as England considered some of their customs to be "barbaric". Rama IV and Rama V were greatly influenced by western ideas during a time when sweeping changes could be made by decree. Lese Majeste will surely be the last such barbarism to fall into the dustbin of history, but it will happen eventually. The precipitating factor will most likely be the coming succession crisis.
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Old 30-12-2008, 11:22 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Thais should remember nowhere else in the world guests get jailed for three lines written in a book.

Stupid bastard should of known better, every body knows the rules regards this stuff so let him suck it up for a while.

Silly tosser wont do it next time.
The book was not even published in Thailand. What right do the Thais have of scouring the world hunting evidence of lese majeste?
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The book was not even published in Thailand. What right do the Thais have of scouring the world hunting evidence of lese majeste?

I feel that if the Dumbo was silly enough to pen this stuff and then stay in country he has sealed his own fate.

He had been around long enough to know this was a No No under Thai law and whether you like it or not its Thai law and all people in country are bound to it same as English or Australian law.

When in country play the game.

If he wants to play with fire do it from back here and never go back, balls in his court so to speak.

Anyway matey, did you read the post about the Thai that is in serious shit because he or she did not stand up in the picture theater?

Apparently us round eyes are subject to the same treatment so I'd give the theaters a big miss if I was you.

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The book was not even published in Thailand. What right do the Thais have of scouring the world hunting evidence of lese majeste?
An outstandingly excellent point that bothered me some what. So I went and checked (wonderful thing, google). And what I came up with was:

The arrest warrant alleged Nicolaides had insulted the Thai royal family in his second book, Verisimilitude, a novel Nicolaides self-published in Thailand in 2005.

www.theage.com.au - The trouble with Harry

(admittedly, so far I have not been able to corroborate the publisher)



however, perhaps more interestingly:
Yet when he published Verisimilitude three years ago, Nicolaides took the precaution of sending his book to the National Library, the Thai Ministry of Culture, the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Bureau of the Royal Household to check that its contents were acceptable

The trouble with Harry | theage.com.au

which is a bit difficult to reconsile with the "scouring the world to hunt for evidence".
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I wonder how his new year and Christmas were.

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Old 30-12-2008, 05:31 PM   #72 (permalink)
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The whole thing's just a ploy anyway. His next book on '6 months of hell in a Thai prison (for writing a book)' will sell more than his entire back catalogue. And make Thais look like the retards they are on an international stage.

Congrats to both of them.
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Old 30-12-2008, 05:38 PM   #73 (permalink)
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It is blasphemy to say he blasphemed. ( He broke the law of defamation)
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Thais should remember nowhere else in the world guests get jailed for three lines written in a book.

Stupid bastard should of known better, every body knows the rules regards this stuff so let him suck it up for a while.

Silly tosser wont do it next time.
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I wonder how his new year and Christmas were.

Party hats, crackers, turkey till yer fit to burst followed by port and the cheese board?
Yes, not to mention a few games of "backgammon" with the prison fairies!!!
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You write about as well as you know what date it is . . .
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Yes, not to mention a few games of "backgammon" with the prison fairies!!!
must have been playing a back game!
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The book was not even published in Thailand. What right do the Thais have of scouring the world hunting evidence of lese majeste?
An outstandingly excellent point that bothered me some what. So I went and checked (wonderful thing, google). And what I came up with was:

The arrest warrant alleged Nicolaides had insulted the Thai royal family in his second book, Verisimilitude, a novel Nicolaides self-published in Thailand in 2005.

www.theage.com.au - The trouble with Harry

(admittedly, so far I have not been able to corroborate the publisher)
Well, I believe this to be inaccurate and, contrary to the earlier reports on this thread, the previous thread turned up no evidence whatsoever that the book was published outside of Australia and in any other language than English.


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Yet when he published Verisimilitude three years ago, Nicolaides took the precaution of sending his book to the National Library, the Thai Ministry of Culture, the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Bureau of the Royal Household to check that its contents were acceptable

The trouble with Harry | theage.com.au

which is a bit difficult to reconsile with the "scouring the world to hunt for evidence".
Agreed, but they cannot have it both ways, he either gained tacit approval by request, or they took offence at an overseas publication.
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