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Paedophiles beware! Especially if you‘re a Brit because the UK is about to institute a new law to allow those who have under-age sex to be prosecuted, irrespective of the age of consent in the country where the offence is committed. This article has been adapted from one recently published on the subject in Pattaya Today Newspaper.

In the UK, the age of consent is 16, but this is by no means standardized across Europe or Asia, for example. In Spain, Italy and several Baltic countries, the age of consent is from 13-15; Thailand has 15 as the legal age, but there are others as well and further complications regarding whether or not one pays, or uses financial inducements.

The UK initiative is to bring it into line with the EU. And the penalties are stiff! Sex with a minor under 13 may mean life, for example, whereas under 16, incurs a 14 year jail term. Child pornography, likewise, incurs relatively harsh penalties and the age has now been increased to no-one under 18, rather than 16, at present. The British Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, has insisted that convicted offenders will have to give the police their email addresses to be broadcasted throughout social networking websites and subsequently blacklisted. Visiting the listed sites or attempts at evasion, like using a new, unregistered email addresses, could incur a 5 year sentence. Pattaya Today reported that Ms Smith declared "We now have some of the strictest controls in the world on sex offenders."

Thailand welcomed the new UK initiative to protect children against sexual exploitation. PDN has repeatedly had to report on cases of paedophilia in Pattaya. Apparently, this year alone has seen 15 cases, which are still going through the courts. In certain cases, Thailand will also allow some offenders to be repatriated to be prosecuted back home, cancelling their Thai visas before deporting them.

UK CRACKS DOWN ON PAEDOPHILES AT HOME AND ABROAD --> Pattaya Daily News : pattaya daily update news

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Thai Pom

Great. All of them should get "Life without NUTS"

good2bhappy

How will they reconcile this with the extradition laws.
For example the UK will not extradite someone if the offence is not one under UK law!
What makes the UK think its legal system to be superior?

ChiangMai noon

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agree.

bit odd.

yet, isn't spain and Italy in the EU?

gjbkk

The UK seems to be going mad with child protection laws see bellow



Camera ban for Betty, 82


An 82 year old woman has been banned from taking photos of an empty paddling pool in case she was a paedophile.
Betty Robinson and pal Brenda Bennett, 69, went to shoot some pictures on a common in Southampton, Hants.
But as Betty pointed her lens at the deserted pool a female council official stormed out of her hut and demanded she stop, reports The Sun.
Betty, who has been taking photos in the park for decades, said: "She told us those were the rules to protect children.
"To me, this was bureaucracy gone mad. I just thought it would make a jolly nice picture.
"There were no children in the pool but she pointed to boys in the distance and said we could come back when the park was closed.
"We are just a couple of old ladies, we are certainly not paedophiles. I couldn't even see the children she referred to."
Brenda, also of Southampton, said: "It's over the top. We've been coming here for years."
City council bosses have apologised and said staff would be told to use their discretion.

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good2bhappy

I heard of a story where a parent photographed her kid in the bath.
The father went to pick up the photos from the chemist.
At 6 the next morning they received a dawn raid!

Thormaturge

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I was looking for this story on the Net. It was a well-known TV reporter if I recall correctly, but I can't recall who. Some years ago now though.

Frankly if I were a parent in the UK I would be very careful about photographing my own children since that looks like becoming the next target for the child protection mob.

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Whiteshiva

This is getting out of control. Naturally, it is fine to crack down on sex offenders of any type, but let's try to maintain a minimum of common sense, even when dealing with such an emotionally laden subject. It is slowly getting to the stage where you cannot even show affection for your own kids in public, largely due to overzeleaous citizens (or posters) who would rather shoot first and ask questions later.

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nidhogg

So, to be blunt, at present in the UK you can f*ck a 16 year old - but not look at a picture of her naked???

While there is a definate place for sensible child protection laws, it all gets a bit f*cked up whe the nutters run the show.

I also have quite deep reservations about the concept of prosocuting citizens for doing something in another country that is LEGAL in that other country - this year child sex - next year - well, what? Once a presedent is set - its set. Surely the way to go forward is to standardize the age of consent in different countries.

The real problem is that child sex/porn is so emotive that nobody (except the nutters) dare go near the subject.

Thormaturge

Are we breaking the law by reproducing these pictures here?



Father-of-three branded a 'pervert' - for photographing his own children in public park



When Gary Crutchley started taking pictures of his children playing on an inflatable slide he thought they would be happy reminders of a family day out.

But the innocent snaps of seven-year-old Cory, and Miles, five, led to him being called a ‘pervert’.

The woman running the slide at Wolverhampton Show asked him what he was doing and other families waiting in the queue demanded that he stop.


Picture of innocence: The photograph Gary Crutchley took of his sons Cory and Miles
One even accused him of photographing youngsters to put the pictures on the internet.
Mr Crutchley, 39, who had taken pictures only of his own children, was so enraged that he found two policemen who confirmed he had done nothing wrong.

Yesterday he said: ‘What is the world coming to when anybody seen with a camera is assumed to be doing things that they should not?

‘This parental paranoia is getting completely out of hand. I was so shocked. One of the police officers told me that it was just the way society is these days. He agreed with me that it was madness.’

Father-of-three Mr Crutchley, a consultant for a rubber manufacturer from Walsall, West Midlands, was with his wife Tracey and their sons when the pleasant Sunday afternoon out turned sour.

He said: ‘The children wanted to go on an inflatable slide and I started taking photos of them having a good time. Moments later the woman running the slide told me to stop.

‘When I asked why, she told me I could not take pictures of other people’s children. I explained I was only interested in taking photos of my own children and pointed out that this was taking place in a public park.

‘I showed her the photos I had taken to prove my point. Then another woman joined in and said her child was also on the slide and did not want me taking pictures of the youngster.



All together now, smile: Gary and Tracey with Cory, left, and Miles
‘I repeated that the only people being photographed were my own children. She said I could be taking pictures of just any child to put on the internet and called me a pervert. We immediately left the show.’

Mrs Crutchley, 37, a teaching support assistant and qualified nursery nurse, said: ‘I was shocked by the reaction of those women.

'It is very sad when every man with a camera enjoying a Sunday afternoon out in the park with his children is automatically assumed to be a pervert.’

The slide was run by Tracey Dukes, 35, whose father Malcolm Gwinnett has an inflatables hire company.

Mr Gwinnett, 58, a LibDem councillor in Wolverhampton, said: ‘Our policy is to ask people taking photos whether they have children on the slide. If they do, then that is fine.

‘But on this occasion another customer took exception to what the man was doing and an argument developed between those two people that continued without any further involvement from staff on the slide.’

oldgit

I cannot fathom our laws, my friends 14 year old daughter went to a fairground and had sex with one of the fairground workers, friend went to the police to get them to arrest him and was told no complaint has been made, he told them ''I am comlaining'' police said it must come from his daughter.

good2bhappy

Lets se if I can get this right.
You go to another European union country.
You shag a bird. Then get arrested in the UK and appeal to the European court on the grounds that you did not commit an offence in the member country.
Which member state does the European court decide for?

Texpat

^^^ Completely whacked. These fucking child-protection zealots should be shot.

They try to create an aura of guilt where there is none.

cariden

well that's what you get when you try and legislate every human contact..

Thormaturge

Now here is something.

I have pictures from my childhood of life on the farm. These pictures are of me, and other kids around the same age including a tenyear old girl (I was eleven) and her younger brother.

Is it now illegal to have these pictures?

I should add that everyone is fully clothed in the pics, but so are the kids in the pics above. Jeez I'd hate to be considered a paedo for having pics from my childhood, they were such happy times.

good2bhappy

Ah those halcyon days

gjbkk

It is fairly worrying and sad that a recent post I placed on TD would be viewed as illegal in the UK. The post included images of young Thai girls playing with my son in the river Kwai.






More worrying is the facts I have a couple of books back in the UK on photography by David Hamilton which I bought back in the late 1970s. Now I suspect they are banned and possible ownership is illegal.

The nanny state crated by the Labour Government seems to be making a lot innocent people criminals.

Some thing

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Anne Geddes, biggest peter of them all.